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One man's ongoing journey
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One man's ongoing journey

I've been reading this forum for a couple years; am early 30's, virgin and quite solitary outside of necessary commitments. Have not clicked very well with anyone since grade school. Also diagnosed with Aspergers in my early 20's.

My social skills used to be pretty poor some 10 years ago; I felt that I had very little going for me, I started suffering unexplained bouts of depression and anxiety since the age of 13 and was on medication by mid teens. This actually led to family members consistently underestimating and my problems were medicalized very heavily which basically meant I was not encouraged to seek employment or education and since I did not have a real social circle, aside from toxic friends (more like bullies) who were backstabbing losers and drifted away by the time I was 18, I did not really get a push for pursuing the kinds of objectives most youngsters would do and I'm not even talking about girls as much as just going out and going to school etc.

Because of my understandably poor self-confidence I would be oblivious to or even slightly hostile to girls giving me IOI's in my early 20's which is about the time I started to wander out of my cave and reflecting on my mistakes back then is quite cringe inducing. Yet I feel nostalgic about those days because despite absolutely minimal effort and exposure, still being quite marginalized from the larger society, I received the most blatant IOI's of my life and a reasonably good looking girl practically tried to rape me one time but despite my youth and health I was not aroused by her and things turned out sour for us both because my mind was full of feminism based shame about my sexuality and had too many hang-ups to count. 'Paralysis by analysis' as they say.

Many years later I'm doing some cold approaches every now and then, clubbing a fair bit (always alone) and the 'game' I run is basically trying to stand out physically (body, style) and functionally (dancing, karaoke etc.) and I've had a lot of girls, even groups of girls dance and grind when dancing all by myself almost oblivious to my surroundings. I've been too polite to make a physical move though; I'm very analytical and prefer conversation over anything physical. I never drink any alcohol to save money and health and even after my average lonely night-out I do feel proud of myself for having put myself out there more visibly than the average guy despite my past (and present if you like).

I grew up in a semi-religious household where human sexuality was taboo and when I was closing in on puberty, my dad was about to give me 'the talk' but he seemingly broke down crying in front of me after the first few lines and just left my room. My mother has said some pretty feministic things over the years. From what I've understood my dad was coerced into a shotgun wedding over my mother accidentally falling pregnant with me.

This post is becoming more disjointed and incoherent and it's a bit hard to wrap up but a part of me has become complacent with my current life style, where I'm improving my (passive) value and I feel confident that I could get into a LTR with a decent woman if I could only find her, which might well require switching towns or even moving abroad, which would distance me from my family; the only regular socialization in my life. Given my age, I find it hard to believe in a radical change of personality that would see me enjoy hunting for diverse action on the regular unless I'm surrounded by men who provide a contrast to my melancholic personality. I'm in a situation where I'm not yet entirely sure what I want from women (LTR or just hook-ups) as I've not experienced much and because of social isolation I lost many great years. I cannot imagine just how ballsy I could be now if I had got on the right track from my early 20's at least but the support just was not there and I was allowed to wallow in the negative mindset.
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One man's ongoing journey

What you need before game is help. Look into new age spirituality and get into meditation. Check out Teal Swan. You seriously need to fix yourself first mentally. I would recommend also seeing a therapist. Also look into the raw food diet.

You want to build a healthy relationship with yourself before you build them with women. Intimacy is a whole different ball game. Also if your sexually frustrated get a fleshlight with a shower mount or see a professional. But seriously work on fixinf yourself.
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Quote: (08-24-2016 01:52 PM)Kapostatus13 Wrote:  

What you need before game is help. Look into new age spirituality and get into meditation. Check out Teal Swan. You seriously need to fix yourself first mentally. I would recommend also seeing a therapist. Also look into the raw food diet.

You want to build a healthy relationship with yourself before you build them with women. Intimacy is a whole different ball game. Also if your sexually frustrated get a fleshlight with a shower mount or see a professional. But seriously work on fixinf yourself.
Thank you for your input.

I will look into some of the more elaborate suggestions of yours. I've been to therapy as a teen as well as an adult but did not find it to work for me. The difference is that as a minor I did not have clear goals and was not aware of the roots of my suffering. Now I can very vividly recognize some of the major causes of my unhappiness and am working on them. The most important is to have a satisfying social life, followed by satisfactory career and self-development. I've become slightly jaded as far as the latter is concerned but do some have minor dreams at least, which I believe is still a slight advantage over many people who are only working to subsist a tolerable lifestyle and to be accepted.
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I see some similarities with my own thread here: thread-54529.html
However, if I had girls grinding me at clubs I would probably not be here :-)
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One man's ongoing journey

Quote: (08-24-2016 03:02 PM)idane Wrote:  

I see some similarities with my own thread here: thread-54529.html
However, if I had girls grinding me at clubs I would probably not be here :-)
Interesting post. Being european myself and speaking intermediate swedish and beginner norwegian, I'd be very curious about venturing into Denmark, which seems like a better country to be than where I'm currently stationed. Many years ago I actually applied for a long term volunteering assignment that would have taken place in Denmark but was rejected as I usually am.

I've only been abroad once and my finances are not the best yet.
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Well, give us some more info of yourself.

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Good luck on finding happiness.

I unfortunately don't know enough about your disorder to help you.

I will tell you a story though, about 15 years ago, when I was in the military, a bunch of us guys would go party in Nashville. There was always this same guy on the dancefloor. We called him dancing charley because he would never leave the dance floor. This kid was always making out and grinding on the hottest girls, week after week. This was before the whole "game and PUA" stuff came about. We figured Charlie was a huge player, so one day I bought him a beer and tried to talk to him. Turns out he was deaf. He stayed on the dancefloor because he had his own method of attracting women without having to speak. No one knew he was deaf unless he told them. I have no idea how he kept on beat and tempo but he did it.

So what I'm saying is if you have social problems, find your own niche. Think about visiting a country where people don't speak the same language as you. Try Thailand or something like that first. Girls there are going to be a little more forgiving than somewhere like Denmark and Ukraine. As you progress and figure this out, then you can branch out to Eastern Europe or wherever you choose.
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Try making friends before hitting on girls, you will develop social skills this way that will help you with girls.

Also, do you work? If so, how did you manage to get through the rounds of interviews ?

What things do you like to do....or would you like to do/learn? Try joining some groups on meetup.com and branch out from there. I think that if you are able to find "yourself" and "who you are" you will be more comfortable and the social anxiety will decrease.

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Quote: (08-25-2016 01:51 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Try making friends before hitting on girls, you will develop social skills this way that will help you with girls.

Also, do you work? If so, how did you manage to get through the rounds of interviews ?

What things do you like to do....or would you like to do/learn? Try joining some groups on meetup.com and branch out from there. I think that if you are able to find "yourself" and "who you are" you will be more comfortable and the social anxiety will decrease.
I'm currently going to vocational school or in other words learning a trade, which is perhaps not the greatest choice for me but I'm a bit limited by the options in my current town and will soon get my vocational degree, even if it's one of the least valued kind.

I have tried to volunteer extensively and have hoped to make connections this way and am also studying social work part time.

In short, I do not work at the moment and have failed my share of interviews.
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In America, its not necessarily a bad thing for religious people to be virgins if your goal is to get married in your church. It might be beneficial to find a local support group from a church or whatever your town offers. Religious girls don't really care about other stuff as long as your willing to attend church regularly, and not being a player might actually make you look more pious in their eyes and a suitable future husband.
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