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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

Your average young man these days doesn't work with his hands. Simple as that. They aren't turning wrenches, hammering nails, digging ditches, hauling materials, etc. The average occupation of a young man is some sort of service job. They work a cash register, serve food, type on a computer, drive a car, talk to customers, use a phone, yadda yadda yadda. No surprise to me. To compound that, our way of life has become more sedentary, where we take in a lot of our leisure sitting on our asses, typing on smart phones, looking at a computer, eating food, and an endless list of other lame activities that contribute to muscle atrophy.
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

Quote: (08-17-2016 12:51 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  

Wrist wraps should only be used after grip strength is compromised or if you're doing a heavy lift where your grip will fail way before you will fail the lift. Using wrist wraps all the time is gonna prevent you from getting your grip strength up to manly levels.

I pretty sure you're talking about straps there, like for deadlifting. I know my grip is weaker than normal lately because I have to use straps to deadlift over 400 pounds (never used to use straps, just chalk) and my pistol splits are very slow, because my recoil management is shit thanks to my weak grip. I'm going to start doing regular farmer walks and wheelbarrow workouts to fix that. Too much time driving a laptop lately.

Wraps are for supporting the wrist in pressing movements. I use wraps sometimes when benching my heaviest sets, but I use them more for overhead press, which I think is because mediocre form from poor flexibility is putting too much strain on my wrists. Wraps have little to do with grip strength but it is bad to use them too much because like overusing any supportive brace, that means you'll never develop the supporting muscles properly.

All this stuff has its place in training. Except gloves.

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I don't have much to say about how weak and soft most millennials are, speaking as an older millennial. It's just one more aspect of how completely disconnected I feel from most people who are more than one or two years younger than me. What bothers me most isn't that they're physically weak--that can be fixed--but that they're so often unwilling to even try hard things. I'm glad I avoided a similar fate.
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#28

Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

^^^ Yea you're right I was talking about wrist straps, not wrist wraps, although they both sound exactly the same when said out loud haha.
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

"I don't have much to say about how weak and soft most millennials are, speaking as an older millennial. It's just one more aspect of how completely disconnected I feel from most people who are more than one or two years younger than me. What bothers me most isn't that they're physically weak--that can be fixed--but that they're so often unwilling to even try hard things. I'm glad I avoided a similar fate."

I think I've noticed this to. Were you born in the early 80s? Did you graduate college before say, 2007?
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

Quote: (08-16-2016 05:48 PM)robreke Wrote:  

I know there's a fair share of millennial-bashing threads on the forum.

So, I thought 'why not add one more?' [Image: lol.gif]

Especially, since it just came out;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...chers-say/

From the article:

"I, on the other hand, have the soft palms of a modern-day desk jockey. My hands are delicate, well-moisturized, and prone to blisters if I spend too much time in the garden.

And I’m not the only one. A new study in press at the Journal of Hand Therapy (yes, a real thing) finds that millennial men may have significantly weaker hands and arms than men the same age did 30 years ago.

Researchers measured the grip strength (how strongly you can squeeze something) and pinch strength (how strongly you can pinch something between two fingers) of 237 healthy full-time students aged 20 to 34 at universities in North Carolina. And especially among males, the reduction in strength compared to 30 years ago was striking.

Of course, this begs the question 'why is this so?' Too much estrogen in the water/soy in the food/ hormones in the meats? Those or maybe it's just too much laziness and gaming on the couch as opposed to getting out and doing physical shit like young men did years ago. Likely, a combination.


This article, of course, is based on the general population. There's anomalies outside the norm. I'm guessing serious RVF millennials tend to work out and lift more and in general, are stronger than their peers.

Still, it's an interesting study that, when I heard it, didn't surprise me.

Well my objective is always to be an ultra male male. I do weights and martial arts. And I'm repulsed (utterly) by the faggotisation of men and masculinisation of women.

But like the OP, despite having had big muscles over time, my forearms are naturally nothing special.
My father has utterly huge forearms in comparison, even tho he doesn't do weights (never has, played football and did gardening etc). My wrists are pretty small. My forearm muscles grow, but not that much really compared to everything else.

Now I am naturally a v high testosterone person - high sex drive, combat sports, v high pain threshold etc. And my face was scanned to say "very high test" by some study. But I can't help but think my somewhat shitty forearms and wrists are a result of endocrine disruptors and the utter shit thats in our environment.

I remember in school, kids had bigger feet than their parents, were taller, but had shitty forearms. Even by late 20s and 30 yrs, most had shit forearms vs their fathers and grandfathers. I'm sure its environmental degradation.
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#31

Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

Just go do manual labor. Lift and carry heavy huge rocks, make a pile, then make them into a wall, or something.

"A stripper last night brought up "Rich Dad Poor Dad" when I mentioned, "Think and Grow Rich""
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

A lot of people work out only their grip strength, but remember there's another set of muscles that work on extending your fingers. Don't neglect these muscles they are just as necessary! Kind of like doing only bench press and neglecting your back. It will also increase the size of your forearms

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There are plenty more ways Google finger extension exercises
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

Quote: (08-17-2016 02:39 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

"I don't have much to say about how weak and soft most millennials are, speaking as an older millennial. It's just one more aspect of how completely disconnected I feel from most people who are more than one or two years younger than me. What bothers me most isn't that they're physically weak--that can be fixed--but that they're so often unwilling to even try hard things. I'm glad I avoided a similar fate."

I think I've noticed this to. Were you born in the early 80s? Did you graduate college before say, 2007?

More or less, except I went to college after the army so I was doing that until a couple years ago. The odd cultural difference between people in my cohort and people just a few years younger seems to coincide with them coming of age with ubiquitous cell phones and shortly after that, smart phones. I didn't get a cell phone or know many people with them until I was out of high school, and smart phones weren't a thing for several more years after that. I'm not saying it was all because of cell phones but at that point, there was a clear cultural shift in the youth for some reason.
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Study shows men are weaker today than they were 30 years ago

It's really just a sign of the times. Fact of the matter is because of the comforts we enjoy and the way of life in modern society - men don't actually have to be strong. Manual labor generally is not a part of an average man's day-to-day life. Going to the gym to be strong and aesthetic is a completely simulated and contrived effort.
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