[BootNootly]

A 26-year-old 9 of my acquaintance, in the 99th percentile in hotness of girls I know, is about to marry a beta bux, rather than the alpha-type I would have expected.

He is tall, handsome and has a good job but has beta body language and conversational skills, and can't keep up with her clubbing. She doesn't give him the doggy-bowl gaze, but she always behaves like a lady even when he goes to bed early.

I always figured I was too autistic to game her well, but seeing her take a ring from a beta bux makes me realize I sold myself short.

Since the bride is a 9, this is a good experiment for whether looks+height+upper-middle class lifestyle can cover for betatude in 2016 and beyond.

[General Stalin]

Believe it or not, things aren't black and white and not every attractive female wants/needs to be with some tough aloof unwavering alpha man.

That said, if she is a club chick, and goes without him, then he surely won't be the last guy she is ever intimate with.

[R_Niko]

Marriage and commitment have been redefined so completely that a marriage where a woman doesn't really respect her man and steps out to go clubbing and sleep around might still be considered a successful one.

So, if you step up and nail her, it might not really change things for anyone.

[Rhyme or Reason]

I don't see what's unusual about a wall-approaching chick marrying a beta.

[Repo]

Orbiting a marriage is beta. Make a move or don't. This isn't really an expirament of anything other than do you have the game to get her. We already know the answer to what you are intending to test.

[BootNootly]

(08-03-2016 05:23 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Believe it or not, things aren't black and white and not every attractive female wants/needs to be with some tough aloof unwavering alpha man.

That said, if she is a club chick, and goes without him, then he surely won't be the last guy she is ever intimate with.

She comes across as someone who would want her man to be the extroverted work-the-room alpha.

[Travesty]

This is a very rare exception unless he had a ton of family $ or they have know each other since a very young age.

[BootNootly]

(08-03-2016 06:00 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This is a very rare exception unless he had a ton of family $ or they have know each other since a very young age.

They met a few years ago. His family is worth about $3 million. Up there, but not stratospheric. She lives from paycheck to paycheck.

[BootNootly]

$3 million gives you a good cushion but most people at that level still wagecuck for a living in order to keep feeding the beast.

[Gimlet]

(08-03-2016 05:18 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

A 26-year-old 9 of my acquaintance, in the 99th percentile in hotness of girls I know, is about to marry a beta bux, rather than the alpha-type I would have expected.

He is tall, handsome and has a good job but has beta body language and conversational skills, and can't keep up with her clubbing. She doesn't give him the doggy-bowl gaze, but she always behaves like a lady even when he goes to bed early.

I always figured I was too autistic to game her well, but seeing her take a ring from a beta bux makes me realize I sold myself short.

Since the bride is a 9, this is a good experiment for whether looks+height+upper-middle class lifestyle can cover for betatude in 2016 and beyond.

She is married and acts like a lady when her husband isn't looking? So step off, don't add to the degeneracy of our world. Jesus...what is wrong with you?

[Repo]

Agree Gimlet. Sounds like a troll. One second hes autistic, then he's planning to hit on a 9, then somehow hitting on her is part of some grand expirement. . . .have you even talked to her before? Uses a bunch of key words but hasn't actually taken any kind of action worth talking about

[philosophical_recovery]

I randomly met a female friend's friend that was out "clubbing" on her birthday. Her fiance wasn't there. She was trash talking him the entire time. She had multiple kids, and looked damn good with some nice big all american tits, but a total imminent wall case.

That entire night, I gamed the fuck out of her because I hated her trash talking and all of her bullshit. I was crashing at my friend's pad, so I was quite lit up. Towards the end of the night, before we headed back to my friend's to crash on her couch, I just went up and made out with her in front of the small group. Then, our sleeping arrangement was us sharing the futon. I tried the whole night to get in her pants, and got everywhere but in her locked down panties. I wanted to feel that mom pussy and see if it was different than other mom pussy that I had before.

Woke up in the morning to my friend chiding me. She was really upset for about 5 seconds and then she got over it.

Found out a few months later that the marriage was called off. I still take credit for saving the guy's life.

That said, from what little I've read here, this could actually go good for the moneybucks beta. Or not. But, I would have a guilty conscience about tangling with his girl. I don't have a guilty conscience about the mom because I knew she didn't respect her parachute.

I prefer to live guilt free.

[lex the impaler]

Not worth getting killed over. I'd skip the married chick.

[rpg]

A fiance and a family with $3 million is female viagra. That kind of scratch can make up for alot of male shortcomings. Over the long haul she will take it for granted and then the worst will come out.
Best to move on and find someone else.

[Saweeep]

The danger with this "women only want alpha males" thinking is that there is always a "bigger alpha" out there than you. It's also categorically not true, all of the time. I'm sure it's a normally distributed bell curve, like most other things in human life.

It is very easy to become blinkered and prone to mental torture and anguish by "red pill theory" when the reality, like everything in life, is more nuanced.

[Saweeep]

P.S. Stop being a dick and go hit on some unmarried women; there isn't a shortage.

[Barron]

(08-03-2016 05:18 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

I always figured I was too autistic to game her well, but seeing her take a ring from a beta bux makes me realize I sold myself short.

(08-03-2016 05:59 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

She comes across as someone who would want her man to be the extroverted work-the-room alpha.

Pro Tip: Women are fickle, they have no idea what they want and their desires are subject to change any moment by the whims of their emotions.

No confidence + projecting of your beta ideals onto her = you will most likely fuck it up if you make a move because you 100% pedastolize this ho.

The would-be hubby may be beta but so are you. Work on your inner game and you will never again find yourself "orbiting a marriage".

(08-03-2016 09:53 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Then, our sleeping arrangement was us sharing the futon. I tried the whole night to get in her pants, and got everywhere but in her locked down panties. I wanted to feel that mom pussy and see if it was different than other mom pussy that I had before.

[The Beast1]

Fuck off with this oneitis and do some approaches on new women.

Also GAME forum. Why is it so hard for newbies to put threads inthe proper place?

[GlobalMan]

This is the perfect example of a dude who has spent too long reading red pill blogs.

Guy is tall, good looking, good job, has money, girl treats him with respect... but he has "beta" conversation skills and she should want something else, something you imagine?

File this under the same crap like "never buy a drink" "never buy dinner". The real world of attracting women isn't black and white, it doesn't work like that.

I've banged girls directly after:

-Buying a drink
-Buying dinner
-Giving flowers
-Giving a sweet note

All things that many guys on the forum would say you should never do if someone asked if its ok to do on a first meeting.

Any guy who has a decent amount of experience will tell you the alpha beta thing is mostly bullshit. Sure, there are some near universal truths, but there is a whole lot more of grey area. Female attraction is an art, not a science.

It's who *you* are that matters, not what script you're following.

Attributing her attraction and respect of him to merely his "bux" is just a convenient way for you to hamster this away. Sure, there's a chance the bux are the main factor, but that is far from certain, even from just knowing what you wrote of him briefly.

Instead of doubting this guy and discounting the source of his ability to attract her, go improve yourself so you too can get that 9.

[Dantes]

OP

To support what others have expressed life does not always fit into neat categories. With the said, the man you described is probably more Alpha than you realize. Tall, handsome, with a good job, and has a 9 who treats him well.....sounds like he is doing well for himself. Instead of honing in on his flaws, there is probably a lot you can learn from him. He is succeeding in many important aspects of life.

[XPQ22]

(08-04-2016 02:43 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Instead of doubting this guy and discounting the source of his ability to attract her, go improve yourself so you too can get that 9.

One of the best looking regular girls at a club I hit up on the weekends is engaged to a guy who, on first glance, appears to be the "twee hipster beta" type. I tried hitting her up before I knew the situation and while she was pleasant, she was definitely uninterested.

Turns out he's a post-doc in some advanced physics field, like quantum cosmology. No doubt that working on unlocking the secrets of the universe is gonna get a few pussies wet in certain circles.

He occasionally shows up at the club and often not only has his fiancee in tow, but another hot girl or two as well. Makes me wish I'd paid more attention in school. Hats off to you sir...

[EvanWilson]

(08-03-2016 06:09 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 06:00 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This is a very rare exception unless he had a ton of family $ or they have know each other since a very young age.

They met a few years ago. His family is worth about $3 million. Up there, but not stratospheric. She lives from paycheck to paycheck.

"His family is worth about $3 million."

I think we now know all that we need to know to understand what is really going on.

[Easy_C]

(08-04-2016 06:41 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(08-04-2016 02:43 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Instead of doubting this guy and discounting the source of his ability to attract her, go improve yourself so you too can get that 9.

One of the best looking regular girls at a club I hit up on the weekends is engaged to a guy who, on first glance, appears to be the "twee hipster beta" type. I tried hitting her up before I knew the situation and while she was pleasant, she was definitely uninterested.

Turns out he's a post-doc in some advanced physics field, like quantum cosmology. No doubt that working on unlocking the secrets of the universe is gonna get a few pussies wet in certain circles.

He occasionally shows up at the club and often not only has his fiancee in tow, but another hot girl or two as well. Makes me wish I'd paid more attention in school. Hats off to you sir...

Also don't make assumptions. While they are extremely rare, I have seen dweeby types who are boxers, bikers, etc. Hell I met one guy who looks like a total millenial hipster type but runs his own landscaping and tree business.

That and some of them can be surprisingly good lays for women.

[realologist]

Newbies keep an eye on this thread. OP is a man that has a very limited view of the world, red pill and actual dynamics between men and women. He has a very shallow view on the complexitiesand nuances of human and opposite sex interactions.

It's shown by his over reliance on alpha and beta and surface value judging of the man and woman.

OP is little league world series trying to play ball in October.

[Rhyme or Reason]

(08-04-2016 10:38 AM)realologist Wrote:  

Newbies keep an eye on this thread. OP is a man that has a very limited view of the world, red pill and actual dynamics between men and women. He has a very shallow view on the complexitiesand nuances of human and opposite sex interactions.

It's shown by his over reliance on alpha and beta and surface value judging of the man and woman.

OP is little league world series trying to play ball in October.

He's also a fucking chump. 99th percentile of hotness? Give me a fucking break!

Quote:

but seeing her take a ring from a beta bux makes me realize I sold myself short.

Why's that? In your fantasy, you're down on one knee with some bitch "taking a ring" from you?

I don't know if it's too much red pill or not enough...either way OP you need to get out into the world and just live your life.