[rpg]

(08-03-2016 03:25 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 12:01 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

Please think this through before voting. For ex, if you vote "Primal monogamous girlfriend/wife, only you bang on the side, but no feeling involved", don't you think she's gonna feel disadvantaged/jealous and leave you at some point? Especially if another guy offer her monogamy.

BTW I know that it's a bit theoretical, maybe I'll meet someone and opt for monogamy. I agree that there are some elements of the relationship that you built deppending of your partner. Nonetheless, I'm still interested to what you think

Looks like that option is the most popular, but from a reality standpoint it also seems the most unreasonable.

If you're "high value" enough, I think it's perfectly reasonable that a girl you're in a more serious relationship with will bang only you for a time while you bang other women; I don't think this always comes out of some sense of loyalty to the guy, but simply because many women intrinsically don't seem comfortable banging multiple dudes regularly at the same time - while they'll have short flings here and there when they're "single" their primary MO is serial monogamy.

As recent experience in my case shows, however, it seems eventually the chickens will come home to roost, you can't leave it ambiguous forever, and she'll start pushing hard for serious commitment, at which point you have either the options to commit to her (and cheat on the side, perhaps, which I won't do as that's a #1 way to bring serious drama down on your head), next her, or bump her back to some kind of casual status (if she's even amenable to that) where she likely will be out searching for the guy who's going to commit to her, and when she finds that guy you'll have to be ready for her at some point to drop the "LSNFTE": "Long Soft Next For Temporary Exclusivity." - "So I've kinda been seeing this other guy and he seems serious and I want to see where it goes..."

It's probably possible to stay "casual fuckbuddies" for a pretty long time as well, but I wouldn't entertain any serious notions that she wasn't always on on the hunt for other guys as well, same as you're hunting for girls.

Something I think is a universal truth that I try to keep in mind when meeting young women from online, night game, or whatever - there's always somebody. Almost no young woman is truly alone in the world; she's either got a fuckbuddy, an ex-boyfriend, a guy she could call up (or I guess text these days) when she goes to NYC, a player she just got out of a "relationship" two weeks ago but they're not really really separated...there's always somebody, and most of us at some point have been the somebody.

You basically want to be the somebody, not the guy with no options who's looking for his wife on OKCupid. I think what keeps hoes coming back is that you remain non-judgmental, yet unimpressed by their hoe-like nature.

Wise words right here.

[ColSpanker]

(08-01-2016 03:19 AM)kikuyu1 Wrote:  

OP,you've overanalysed this thing.

(07-30-2016 12:48 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Monogamy isnt normal, maybe to the European man it is but not elsewhere in the world.

Pride male is right-we're not monogamous! That's the be all and end all of the debate. Just make sure all the women get equal face time,dick and all kids are properly taken care of.
Eg,if you buy one woman a saloon car,buy the other 2 or 3 wives a similar car. Polygamy is therefore for older paid guys in Africa,though you do find younger under 40 polygamous dudes.

I once met an African man who worked in the USA. He had several wives back in the old country. He told me he brought one over and sent money back to support the other ones.
When I asked him which one he brought over he told me: "The one who has been with me the longest, of course."
"Really?" I said, "I thought you would have brought over the young, pretty one."
He laughed and told me that's the way an American would think.

[kikuyu1]

(08-04-2016 11:41 AM)ColSpanker Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 03:19 AM)kikuyu1 Wrote:  

OP,you've overanalysed this thing.

(07-30-2016 12:48 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Monogamy isnt normal, maybe to the European man it is but not elsewhere in the world.

Pride male is right-we're not monogamous! That's the be all and end all of the debate. Just make sure all the women get equal face time,dick and all kids are properly taken care of.
Eg,if you buy one woman a saloon car,buy the other 2 or 3 wives a similar car. Polygamy is therefore for older paid guys in Africa,though you do find younger under 40 polygamous dudes.

I once met an African man who worked in the USA. He had several wives back in the old country. He told me he brought one over and sent money back to support the other ones.
When I asked him which one he brought over he told me: "The one who has been with me the longest, of course."
"Really?" I said, "I thought you would have brought over the young, pretty one."
He laughed and told me that's the way an American would think.

This guy died nearly a 100 in 2010 and was featured by ABC. Akuku Denja at the timer had 43 wives and 3 primary schools for all the kids. As I said earlier he saw the necessity of a system;which is how shit in polygamous families must go.

Quote:

Akuku Denjas own married daughters are not allowed to walk back home without written consent of their husband, giving specific reason for the visit, the specific number of days permi9tted for the wife to stay at home with her parents. Any of his already married daughters who simply walks back homer without a written permission from their husband are given specific time and hours, during which they must end their visit and travel back to their husband’s homes, failure of which they faced forceful deportation out of Danger man’s home.

http://blog.jaluo.com/?p=9706



He was a true HOFer with 200+ kids when he checked out.

[Pride male]

Polygamy can save Western civilisation.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Anything except plain monogamy is mathematically unsustainable. That's not a condemnation of banging on the side of course, but that sort of lifestyle never was and never will be available to more than a small minority of men.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(08-22-2016 08:27 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Anything except plain monogamy is mathematically unsustainable. That's not a condemnation of banging on the side of course, but that sort of lifestyle never was and never will be available to more than a small minority of men.

Good point.

(The above comment is useless -- I know, but I needed to post something to see if I was blocked on all threads. Turns out I'm blocked from posting on the Hillary thread. I'll look into why. For now, I guess it's good I can post here at least.)

[Windom Earle]

It should be socially acceptable for a man in an LTR to bang mistresses whilst his main chick is on her rag.

The guy satiates his carnal need to hunt for pussy which in turn gives him a jolt to the cock making him a happier and more contented provider in his primary relationship; which makes her happy and the relationship more tenable long-term. She'll get a jolt to the pussy too from the aftershock, courtesy of a surge in his testosterone. If he hunts for pussy whilst she is rag-free, then that's on him and the "cheatee" can seek redress of grievance.

From my experience with various South East Asian cultures, women tolerate a man having a mistress (or a few) - as long as he's a good provider and is discrete. The pendulum has swung too far in the West for this to be a consideration however, but a man can dream.

[James Bond Next level]

(08-01-2016 02:18 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

OP, I genuinely think you will gain much insight on the subject from Neil Strauss' latest book, The Truth. Strauss was a Rolling Stone contributor & is the writer of The Game, a somewhat historically valuable & referred to tome around these parts.

I don't want to taint your experience of it by adding commentary right now, but I highly suggest you read it & form your own conclusions on the questions you have posed.

To each, their own brother.

Almost finished the book, highly recommend too. Thanks dear pirate!

[Conscious Pirate]

(08-01-2016 04:29 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 02:18 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

OP, I genuinely think you will gain much insight on the subject from Neil Strauss' latest book, The Truth. Strauss was a Rolling Stone contributor & is the writer of The Game, a somewhat historically valuable & referred to tome around these parts.

I don't want to taint your experience of it by adding commentary right now, but I highly suggest you read it & form your own conclusions on the questions you have posed.

To each, their own brother.

I read the Game, but my instinct tells me Style is such a great manipulator, in this book it fit too good : vulnerable when he has too, big womanizer when he has to look good. Besides I have a wing just like that and I'm starting to see the deeper layer, not so perfect.
So, you really advise me to read it, is it worth it honestly?

Absolutely.

I read The Truth a few months ago not having read The Game at the time, although having known of & an idea of it. I have since downloaded the audiobook version of The Game & I can see why it made the impact that it has in hindsight. The Truth is written in Strauss' entertaining narrative style & was a book I could not put down for the duration. It was fascinating to me to get an honest account of where learning game has taken him & relates directly to the questions you are posing in this thread. You must read it.

Also, I found Dr Chris Ryan & his partner Cecilia Jethá's book Sex at Dawn: The Prehistoric Origins of Modern Sexuality to make a lot of sense in this area.

If you are really wanting these answers, I think these are essential to your overall understanding. Happy reading

[Plus Oultre]

(07-30-2016 01:12 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

There is no "best way". Do what works for you and the situation.

Right on point. We are all different and we are different today to what we will be in 10 years from now. As long as we are free and independent to think and act, we will be in a happy place.

[Easy_C]

Strauss's books are generally worth reading for entertainment value alone. The man is an exceptionally gifted storyteller.

[RichieP]

One concept I like here when thinking about the difficulties of marriage/LTRs/some alternative Poly setup is:

-Most humans fail at most things.

Health, career, business, marriages... in each realm, most humans fall somewhere in the range [crap, mediocre, passably OK].

Failure/mediocrity is the norm in most realms, doing better than that always takes effort, determination, smart thinking, wisdom etc.

If you want a kickass successful relationship, it's statistically the same "difficulty level" as a kickass successful business, lifelong healthy fit physique, etc etc.

That alone helped me put this aspect of life in perspective. Anyway. Carry on!