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Semorelin, GHRP-6 and my injury (response to question)
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Semorelin, GHRP-6 and my injury (response to question)

Hi guys,

I had a question on this thread, and rather than derail that one entirely, I thought I'd answer here –– and be able to expand further if anyone else has any other questions.

Quote: (07-28-2016 04:04 PM)Lagavulin Wrote:  

Quote: (07-28-2016 11:02 AM)Snorse Wrote:  

I do use ghrp-6 and sermorelin to fix tendon injuries nowadays, but that's it.

Would you mind expanding on this Snorse?

Is there anything you would recommend for muscular injuries (lower back / glute pain to be exact, with tightness down one leg) other than yoga, massage and trying to strengthen supporting muscles?

Sure. I think the pain you're mentioning is down to piriformis syndrome, and possibly –– if you squat/deadlift semi-regularly (and especially with a wide-ish stance) due to tight adductors and weak/stretched abductors.

I have some experience with this, and will expand on that separately, but first let me explain how and why I started using peptides, when I had decided that actual AAS weren't for me, circa November 2003.

Additionally, it's good evidence for the anecdote "pride only hurts", too!

Late in 2014, I was getting pretty handy with single-arm barbell snatches – and regularly doing sets of 8-10 with 60kgs, using an Olympic bar with a 20kg plate on each end, gripping on the knurling in the middle.

My close friend and training-partner had seen Dmitry Klokov doing 90kgs at a seminar we attended, and I was sure I could get up to, or even surpass that, given some focus and 'grooving in' of the movement.

The thought of being able to do more than that (admittedly superhuman) guy had me seriously pumped and determined.

So, over the next 6 weeks, I embarked on a periodised training 'block' working to a theoretical max of 95kgs in the one-handed snatch on the last day. I began prioritising the lift along with movements that enhanced explosiveness from the floor, and stability with weight overhead.

Over the next few weeks, I encountered a little pain and tension in my brachioradialis muscle, and some discomfort in the wrist and elbow, but it didn't seem too extreme, and I decided to ice, self-massage and carry on working up the progressive overload block anyway.

When I got to the final day, I warmed up with some activation exercises for the muscle groups involved, did a few light sets, and started to pyramid up at about 60% RPE to the big lift.

I got 90kgs easily. My forearm felt a little tweaked, but I was pumped to fuck and 'knew' I had more in me.

So threw up 95kgs whilst my adrenaline was still doing it's work in my veins/brain. It went overhead fine, but when I caught it I perceived a 'pop' in my upper elbow/bicep region – and instead of catching the bar at lock out, simply ducked out backwards fast as I could, and let the barbell come crashing down.

To my surprise, my elbow appeared to be fine (I was expecting torn distal bicep tendon or something that went black and purple), but for the next week I couldn't even operate a door handle without having to brace myself. Gripping anything hurt like hell – and as keen guitar player, I was more than worried.

Weeks later, with no perceived improvement, I managed to squeak ahead of a waiting list at my local hospital Physiotherapy dept. and sat in front of a fit young female doctor who apparently specialised in elbows and sports injuries. She gave me some band work to perform and advised me to ice, massage and all the things I was doing anyway.

Yes, it improved, but any time I did anything semi-taxing on my grip –– like back or rowing exercises –– I was back to being the weakest big guy in the world, who couldn't even open door-handles!

With no amount of glucosamine, cissus or even Ibuprofen making any difference, I consulted a former world powerlifting champion and record holder, who told me about, and gave me a source for, injectable 'research' peptides.

I first used CJC-1295 DAC with GHRP-6

For around 8 weeks, I followed this protocol:

–Immediately upon waking (empty stomach) I took a subQ jab of 100mcg CJC-1295 and in a separate syringe, 100mcg of GHRP-6.

I used separate syringes as I couldn't get my head around peptides (specific amino acid chains) not combining into a different amino acid chain in the solution, if combined. I have no idea to this day whether this really does occur, as different experts say different things – but better safe than sorry.

-Straight after training. Now, I've been downing some form of whey shake as quickly as I could post-training for over ten years, religiously. So this was a bit of a shift for me to make:

On an empty stomach, I took 100mcg of GHRP-6 and 200mcg of sermorelin.

Then I waited 20-30mins before eating. The GHRP-6 induces MASSIVE hunger, so the post-workout meals began to consist of as much meat/eggs as I could eat, along with potatoes and kale, spinach and quinoa, with a couple of spoons of coconut oil and 25g of creatine.

-Lastly, I'd take 00mcg CJC-1295 and 100mcg of GHRP-6 again.

Over those eight weeks, I actually felt lots of relief in every part of my body that had accumulated aches and tweaks over the years, and my injured arm began to feel as good as new.

More than this, I seemed to be getting more frequent erections (especially in the mornings) and even found myself twitching hard over fairly average chicks on soap operas my wife would have on whist I was working!

My body composition was also subtly changing, and I was seeming to put on some new muscle. I have used AAS fairly extensively in the past (but not since 2003), and the gains I was making were nowhere near as dramatic, but still noticeable on a dude that had been training for decades and seemed to have 'plateaued' body-wise even as lifts improved.

I ran out of peptides at 8 weeks in, but everything seemed to have repaired with only very slight inflammation/pain in the affected elbow area when I particularly over-reached.

Around a year later, happenstance saw me hooking into a source that could get pharma-grade sermorelin from a life-extension clinic, and so I decided to try that again along with the same 'research' (read: underground) lab version if GHRP-6 as I'd first used when injured. I also got some melanotan II.

The net effect some 4 months in, is that at 41 y/o, I look better, younger, leaner, bigger and stronger than I ever have after 20+ years of lifting, and I'm able to perform calisthenic feats that bely my size and weight entirely. I couldn't do half that stuff when I was blown up on AAS, and my balls are reassuringly big and full these days.

I have yet to experiment with any other peptides, but intend to look at Mechanical Growth Factor and IGF-1 down the line, alongside my current sermorelin/ghrp-6 protocol.

It's unlikely that I'll ever use AAS again, but I won't say 'never', as I hope to do reasonably well in strongman competitions in the near future... it's a childhood dream and I'm not as self-sabotaging as I was when I was younger, so I'm only just realising that I CAN do it – much of which is down to the manosphere/red pill – so cheers guys!

Any questions, fire away!

Rick
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Semorelin, GHRP-6 and my injury (response to question)

Nice contribution mate peptides are something i'm keeping an eye on. I've recently bought some light bands to do pull aparts and also incorporated face pulls. More pulling excercises in general...once i've exhausted all those and my shoulders are still nagging me I might try peptides. I definetly sit too much also (rounded shoulders)...i'm thinking of buying something like a Microsft surface as my daily driver and just use it laying on my bed. I want to get to the point were I am rarely sitting.
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Semorelin, GHRP-6 and my injury (response to question)

Thanks for the detailed reply Snorse.

I haven't been able to squat, deadlift, row or run for quite some time now. Before my injury I was doing all of these things regularly, however I wasn't doing any stretching or mobility work. I went skiing and put my back out, I don't think it was able to take all the flexing and twisting.

I have considered that piriformis syndrome might be the cause of my pain but it's hard to say for sure, my pelvis is also locked up on one side. I've been to see chiropractors, physio's, myofascial release specialists, I've done yoga, pilates, acupuncture and massage but it still persists.

What I haven't done is prioritised my rehab over my training, I've reluctantly come to accept that this is what is going to have to happen. I always thought that time would heal so lifting always comes first, with stretching and rehab exercises tacked on end of my workouts. My new approach will be to spend an hour or so doing mobility and stability work with some stretching thrown in and 20 mins of lifting tacked on the end.

I hadn't heard of ghrp-6 or sermorelin before, I didn't realise they were steroids. Not really my thing if I'm being honest, however if my pain persists I would give them a go as a last resort. I've just found a physio that works out of an MMA gym and a CrossFit gym so I'm quite hopeful this guy can help me out, he has a good reputation in these communities. He has recommended a few dry needling sessions to loosen off the muscles that are in spasm, lots of foam rolling and mobility/stability work. He speaks a lot of sense, unlike some of the other so called professionals that have taken my hard earned cash.
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Semorelin, GHRP-6 and my injury (response to question)

Why were you pinning the CJC1295 with DAC so frequently? Did you mean "no DAC"? The purpose of DAC is so you only pin 2x per wk.
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