I've been away for a while, but could use some advice from the RVF as it's the only source for red pill perspective I have.
I'm 34 and I've been a Christian (reformed) for about 6 years and a red piller for around 3. My fiancee is a Christian also, two years younger.
I've never felt like I wanted kids, and decided as a child myself that I would never have them. I'm not a people person, I prefer solitude to socialising. I also had a rather unpleasant upbringing which contributed to my decision not to have children - I didn't want to repeat the same mistakes my parents made, knowing how it affected me.
My fiancee however loves children and wants 3 of them. She is perfectly compatible with me other than that - a virgin, attractive, very sweet and feminine, sensible etc.
Before I proposed we had a very difficult conversation about this subject in which I agreed that despite my lack of desire for kids we could have two with the possibility of a third if finances allowed (she wants to be a stay at home mother, and I make an average wage).
My reasoning at the time was that I know several people who also never wanted kids and ended up with "accidents" that they now love and adore. Also I've noticed the tension between the Manosphere's love for women with traditional values and endorsement of banging as many women as possible while remaining unmarried and childless. Obviously that's not an option for me any more.
Now the issue has reared its head again as my fiancee says she doesn't want to have them if I don't. She still wants to stay with me, but she's obviously upset about it as she rationalises ways she could cope with not being a mother. Meanwhile I'm thinking that this could be great if I didn't know it would make her miserable and me feel like the world's #1 jerk.
I guess my questions are:
-Is it likely that I could change my mind and experience happiness at having a child once it's born? Has this happened to any of you?
-Am I just being selfish here?
-Is it likely that I will regret not having any children in my old age if I don't now?
Feel free to add anything else you think might be helpful.
I'm 34 and I've been a Christian (reformed) for about 6 years and a red piller for around 3. My fiancee is a Christian also, two years younger.
I've never felt like I wanted kids, and decided as a child myself that I would never have them. I'm not a people person, I prefer solitude to socialising. I also had a rather unpleasant upbringing which contributed to my decision not to have children - I didn't want to repeat the same mistakes my parents made, knowing how it affected me.
My fiancee however loves children and wants 3 of them. She is perfectly compatible with me other than that - a virgin, attractive, very sweet and feminine, sensible etc.
Before I proposed we had a very difficult conversation about this subject in which I agreed that despite my lack of desire for kids we could have two with the possibility of a third if finances allowed (she wants to be a stay at home mother, and I make an average wage).
My reasoning at the time was that I know several people who also never wanted kids and ended up with "accidents" that they now love and adore. Also I've noticed the tension between the Manosphere's love for women with traditional values and endorsement of banging as many women as possible while remaining unmarried and childless. Obviously that's not an option for me any more.
Now the issue has reared its head again as my fiancee says she doesn't want to have them if I don't. She still wants to stay with me, but she's obviously upset about it as she rationalises ways she could cope with not being a mother. Meanwhile I'm thinking that this could be great if I didn't know it would make her miserable and me feel like the world's #1 jerk.
I guess my questions are:
-Is it likely that I could change my mind and experience happiness at having a child once it's born? Has this happened to any of you?
-Am I just being selfish here?
-Is it likely that I will regret not having any children in my old age if I don't now?
Feel free to add anything else you think might be helpful.