[mrganteng]

So this has happened a couple times.

Both girls were girls i'd met alone before on the first date.

The next time i arrange to meet up they decide to bring along a friend without giving me any notice.

I find this irritating as i find it difficult to escalate when her friend is sitting right next to us.

When arranging a meetup how do I make sure I want to see her alone.

I'm guessing i didn't do enough flirting before hand and the attraction isn't there.

Any thoughts would be great

[Suits]

While perhaps some level of advanced game might be an appropriate response to this, the best thing you can do is walk out immediately after arriving.

She brings a friend because she doesn't respect you. If she doesn't respect you, she's not going to let you fuck her.

The solution is to have enough pussy in the pipeline that you can kick these disrespectful bitches to the curb and never speak to them again.

The best revenge is forgetting all about them and fucking a hotter girl.

[Latan]

Or start hitting hard on their friend, while totally ignoring her.
Make the hamster spin.

[Leonard D Neubache]

[Dantes]

You didn't convey your intentions or build enough comfort. How did you meet these girls?

[NickDunne]

In 90% of the cases is disrespect and you should leave immediately.

I'm leaving the 10% for some more traditional countries where girls or their friends might actually honestly be worried about their safety. In that case, plan for some kind of activity which excludes the 3rd party but allows to have a drink beforehand all three of you. Movies, reservations for 2, parties which are by invitation only, 2 seater car, some kind of game or sports... just make something up.

[Dalaran1991]

(07-21-2016 03:04 AM)NickDunne Wrote:  

I'm leaving the 10% for some more traditional countries where girls or their friends might actually honestly be worried about their safety. In that case, plan for some kind of activity which excludes the 3rd party but allows to have a drink beforehand all three of you. Movies, reservations for 2, parties which are by invitation only, 2 seater car, some kind of game or sports... just make something up.

I'm from a so-called traditional country and I call this bullshit.

You can try to reason that these girls are shy and they are trying to get a 3rd party opinion on you, or trying to feel safe. Get this: this behavior will continue exactly like that in the future and will simply be a pain in the ass. This is either a girl too influenced by their peers to make their own decisions, or are gonna take until the 100th date to bang.

Bringing a 3rd party to a date is the Soviet redflag on the Reichstag.

I'd say that in every single case, get up and leave. Not worth the time doing revenge-flirting the friend, or trying to isolate. Unless you feel a 3-some vibe coming.

[Suits]

(07-21-2016 03:04 AM)NickDunne Wrote:  

I'm leaving the 10% for some more traditional countries where girls or their friends might actually honestly be worried about their safety.

(07-20-2016 11:50 PM)mrganteng Wrote:  

Both girls were girls i'd met alone before on the first date.

The next time i arrange to meet up they decide to bring along a friend without giving me any notice.

[Sarmale]

This is very common when meeting hot Arab women in the USA. I focus a tiny bit more on the friend. Usually it's a warpig.

[therealpoder]

If she was alone when you met her and didn't give you notice, I don't see how you could have prevented it.

In any event, if it happens, just leave. Going out with her friend creates a vibe of "a group of friends hanging out" instead of a "date" vibe, which is what you need. Also, her friend will actively cock block you or make your girl feel awkward physically escalating with you. It'll damn near impossible to get laid and there's almost no point going on a date where there isn't a decent chance of getting laid.

[WestIndianArchie]

What country are you in?

[kaotic]

(07-21-2016 04:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Bringing a 3rd party to a date is the Soviet redflag on the Reichstag.

Someone please make this their signature.

(07-21-2016 06:25 AM)Sarmale Wrote:  

This is very common when meeting hot Arab women in the USA. I focus a tiny bit more on the friend. Usually it's a warpig.

To be frank, that's BS, I've never met an Americanized Arab woman who had her friend or sister tag along. They have that feminist princess jasmine syndrome like South Asian girls do, the "young independent wild and free" mentality.

Maybe FOB's, to which I've never hungout with and met, but I've never ever had a foreign girl or 1st generation foreign woman bring her friend with her.

[Built to Fade]

This used to happen to me in high school.

But in those days, the friend would either leave shortly after the introduction or get ready to hold a massive candle (be a third wheel).

In the modern day with a well socialised girl - its some low down disrespectful shit.

[XPQ22]

It might have been okay when times were different, say, 40 years ago.

That ship has long sailed.

I was a little surprised at this myself when I first got back in, but "nowadays" if you don't fuck a girl on the first date, or at least have things happen that give you a good sense that things are rapidly moving in that direction, your chances of ever having a sexual relationship with her start to drop off a cliff.

So what happened on your first date with these girls? My guess: not much. So assuming not much happened the first time out, and now the second time out she's with a friend, so the chances of anything happening are even lower.

The question I would ask is...what exactly are you hoping for? Given the experiences I've had to my mind the calculus is unavoidable: girls who want your D give you every plausible deniable option to get it happening. Girls who don't, won't. Even if a girl is saying she wants to see me and turning up on dates repeatedly, if she's not giving me the opportunity to push forward, I have to pay attention to those actions and realize there's no there there.

You have to realize that these lines that Western women often give like "I don't have sex on the first date", "I'm not that type of girl", "I never do this", "I need time to get to know you better", "It takes me a long time to warm up to people", "I feel scared about meeting guys from online, you could be a serial killer"

are all just lines. They are absolutely not applying these "rules" equally by any stretch of the imagination...they're tailoring the lines to the vibe they get from you.

[Rawmeo]

Normally when that happens, I don't show anger and greet them both, because sometimes, they just want to see who you are, then go alone with you.

However after 5 minutes if the 3rd party hasn't left. I drop something like "All right, I think I'm ready for the first round, just want to make sure your friend had time to see who I am", or a variant, "I'm ready for <activity>, just waiting for you to finish with your friend. Take your time". This reduces the chances of shaming a girl who just wanted someone to see you for 5 minutes.

If, when doing the above scenario, I get a "Oh, he/she will be staying with us", or the girl lets you know that this person intends to be with us for the whole date, it because she doesn't respect you. And like any girl / guy who doesn't respect you, you need to ditch them. A simple "you should have told me you were bringing someone along, that's a bit rude for a date" and leave.