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06-27-2016, 08:56 PM
Just curious, what would Germany's interest be in retaining the EU? From my understanding of things, Germany is basically financing the PIGS nations and has taken the brunt of the refugees (
See the Chancellor's views on it.). What's really in it for them?
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06-27-2016, 09:26 PM
The prices of their exports are lower than if they went back to the Deutschmark.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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06-27-2016, 10:15 PM
^That post is dynamite. Not the contained type either.
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06-29-2016, 12:00 PM
There are speeches of Merkel out there, one fro 2000 and one from 2010 where she said, Multiculture is failed and migrants have to accept the German customs. But well she also said in 2013 that the Internet is a new territory for all of us. She is in charge since 2005 and I can't see anything that did improve Germany. All the big problems are still out there.
Now the illusion of the German people start to crack up, in 5 to 15 years when nothing change we are so hard in a downfall that nothing will help. Then Germany will be a country with economical and social issues. Germans will try to emigrate to other countries in masses, it will be an exodus. Thats why you should have a plane to leave the EU, because when Germany goes down, the rest will go down as well. At the moment many shit can be covered by the high tax income and the good economic numbers.
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06-29-2016, 12:27 PM
Quote: (06-29-2016 12:00 PM)Parzival Wrote:
There are speeches of Merkel out there, one fro 2000 and one from 2010 where she said, Multiculture is failed and migrants have to accept the German customs. But well she also said in 2013 that the Internet is a new territory for all of us. She is in charge since 2005 and I can't see anything that did improve Germany. All the big problems are still out there.
Now the illusion of the German people start to crack up, in 5 to 15 years when nothing change we are so hard in a downfall that nothing will help. Then Germany will be a country with economical and social issues. Germans will try to emigrate to other countries in masses, it will be an exodus. Thats why you should have a plane to leave the EU, because when Germany goes down, the rest will go down as well. At the moment many shit can be covered by the high tax income and the good economic numbers.
Agreed - the dynamics of economies are actually quite fragile and subject to a natural cycle of boom and bust. Germany is at the tail end of a boom cycle now and for some reason started to believe its own fantasy of being a resilient economic powerhouse which is impervious to corrective cycles. Now Germany is obviously in a very fragile state right now and it would be very easy to disrupt the current boom cycle. All it takes is a political crisis or a series of terror attacks to launch a chain reaction of events that would lead to a situation where Germany is forced to host well over a Million resource draining immigrants on a drastically reduced budget.
Once that happens you will quickly see Germans replace ideology with common sense and self preservation. Of course by the time it happens it will be already too late. I've said it before here - the German culture is doomed and native inhabitants and their future offspring will have to deal with the cancer of Islam for many generations to come. The threshold of permanent and irrevocable damage has long been breached. I suggest you abandon all hope for Germany and if you still reside there make active plans to relocate over the next few years.
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06-29-2016, 12:53 PM
The Euro stops the DM strengthening out of control.
That's the main reason.
Isn't money always the reason?
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06-29-2016, 01:23 PM
Germans have something their blood the same way Brits have. But Germans did try to take Europe for themselves twice remember.
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06-29-2016, 01:31 PM
Quote: (06-29-2016 01:23 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:
Germans have something their blood the same way Brits have. But Germans did try to take Europe for themselves twice remember.
Don't believe everything they tell you.
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06-30-2016, 01:58 AM
Quote: (06-29-2016 04:31 PM)Valentine Wrote:
Quote: (06-29-2016 01:31 PM)Parzival Wrote:
Quote: (06-29-2016 01:23 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:
Germans have something their blood the same way Brits have. But Germans did try to take Europe for themselves twice remember.
Don't believe everything they tell you.
Quote: (06-29-2016 03:31 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:
Quote: (06-29-2016 01:23 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:
Germans have something their blood the same way Brits have. But Germans did try to take Europe for themselves twice remember.
That's an abstraction of the history taught to you in school by the same cultural hegemony that you already know lies about women.
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Well I'm intrigued now.
It is indeed when even the accepted historical facts are different. But this is how it works, at the end the Germans did start two world wars, all white men are rapist, black lives matter, and Islam is peace. The phrases of the new reality of cultural marxism goes on.
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06-30-2016, 07:42 AM
Curious, what is the right history?
Germany AND the Soviet Union invaded Poland September 1939.
The Soviet Union and Japan fought an unknown border war in 1939 and because Japan lost they stopped looking toward Siberia and looked more towards their South.
For 7 Months Europe fought battle after battle during the Phony War. Pilots gallantly flew over enemy territory and dropped pamphlets. Even France invaded Saarland briefly.
We can tell ourselves Germany had designs on Europe (and they did) but Eastern Europe has a term called "The Western Betrayal" for a reason.
The West is 2 steps for doing it again this time to themselves.
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06-30-2016, 11:24 AM
The history of Europe is 3000 years of every power in existence trying to take over and unify the continent.
It's not a controversial statement to say this about any of them. Ever.
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07-01-2016, 10:35 AM
Something to add abut Germany and the EU, it was not the idea of Germany to create the EU or the organisations before. It was on idea of the USA and the other European countries to keep Germany in track. With the re education after the war German politicians did not trust the own citizens and put a strong effort on the so called western integration of Germany that we are in line with the other European countries and the USA.
Because of several reason this did not work well. As it seems Germany again is too big for Europe but too small to be a super power. Our economy did rise a way stronger then of those countries that did won the war, hell even the UK did lost their empire, France struggle. Now the southern European countries struggle too and who got the blame again? Germany. Germany just did manage to have a very strong economy and use the EU and the Euro to keep the own prices low and to export a lot. I get that. I don't support that but I also condemn the anti German hate that is still out there in many countries. Yes its wrong that Germany use the Euro to make more profit from its exports but never forget, who did start it in the first. Bring Germany in such organisation and reeducate the people?
Also its not the fault of Germany that the economy did developed better then in many other european countries. It's a cultural and mentality difference, the northern vs southern difference in Europe. Germany did not force Greece to fake the numbers to get into the EU. Germany don't force other countries to have a bad economy and do no reforms. I disagree with the politics how Germany did deal with Greece but Greece did fake the numbers first and many other countries have problems that you can't put on Germany. Sometimes I have the sad feeling that many people will be happy when Germany fail, deep inside they are passive aggressive against Germany out of several reasons. But those people should look at their own mistakes first. And never forget, it had be your countries that created the idea to bind Germany into multiple organisations to keep us low.
Also keep in mind that the USA is one of the biggest enemies against the EU and an united Europe. Because they did fear the idea of a counter currency to the Dollar. They did fear a united Europe that stands against their divide and conquer politics. Now with the migrant invasion, many of those people come from places where the USA did a mess. Its part of every military planing that when you wage a war, bomb places that there will be refugees. And from the middle east to Europe its just a short step. I wonder why the EU and the USA do not force countries like Qatar, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia to take some of those refugees.
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