[Leonard D Neubache]

There's a ROK thread for this event but for some reasons nobody seems to touch those article/forum crossovers with a ten foot pole.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ornia.html

Ten people were stabbed and rushed to the hospital on Sunday when a right-wing white nationalist group holding a rally outside the California state Capitol building clashed with counter-protesters.

California Highway Patrol Officer George Granada said about 30 members of the Traditionalist Worker Party (TWP) were gathering for a rally around noon Sunday when they were met by about 400 counter-protesters and a fight broke out.

'I don't think there was any verbal exchange, just full on fight,' Granada said according to the Los Angeles Times.

Nazis! Nazis everywhere! Or so we're told. I'm having trouble finding a swastika anywhere in these pictures. The story is becoming quite typical. A non-protected group attempts to exercise their right to assemble peacefully and ANTIFA turns up to devolve the entire event into a brawl. Thereafter the targets are presumed to be Nazis and reported as such.

The stabbing bit is new though.

Most media outlets are trying to put that on the skinheads but I personally have my doubts.

In any case the narrative is clear. Antifa (and other anti-American "non-profits" that were conspicuously present) are being treated as some sort of vigilante mob with protection from higher up the food chain. Make no mistake, if these mobs were operating under the umbrella of Constitutionalism or some other patriarchal identifier then they would be hounded to the gates of Hell.

Still, there are over a half a dozen Antifa with stab wounds to show for their troubles, and hopefully several of them spend the rest of their lives with ongoing medical problems.

Things are certainly starting to heat up.


p.s. If this thread is considered a dupe then please delete it.

[Atheistani]

These guys are stupid. The word Aryan is Indic or Indo Iranian. White nationalists need to get educated and stop referring to themselves with Indo Iranian ethnonyms.

[Libertas]

I looked at their website and didn't find any mention of the word "Aryan."

They call themselves the Traditionalist Worker's Party which is a stupid name because "worker's" is too easy to associate with Nazis.

These guys are dumb but this was another incident that confirms what I wrote last year that leftists are getting more violent. Prepare yourselves.

[Dark Knowledge]

From what I read, the WN's were outnumbered 6 to 1. The antifa side included obese women.

6 anitfa in the hospital with stab wounds.

[Fast Eddie]

What actually happened: 30 or so people were conducting a legal, scheduled demonstration and were attacked without provocation by 400 leftist thugs.

Media coverage: Brave freedom fighters "stood up" to "Nazis" in a series of "clashes."

The hour is late.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Sorry to use the word "Aryan".

It's kind of hard to link six words in a headline that all start with the same letter without playing at the edges a little.

[cubanlinx]

Reports are purposely vague, with a subtle hint of "they deserved it".
I read it was 30 vs. 400. In Cali, ton of trashy Mexicans there. I don't agree with White Nationalism, but they weren't agitating.
But if we take away everybody's guns, it's all good right? RIGHT?
Stabbed, beaten. Who's intolerant now?

[Samseau]

White-nationalists try holding a peaceful rally, riot erupts, fighting ensues and people got stabbed.

Despite the left being totally violent and criminal, no arrests were made. Trump ain't kidding when he says we need to take the country back.

Also note the left are so animalistic they attack each other because they simply driven mad with rage.

Best comment:

"This story was poorly written or written to spin the facts in a certain way. One group had permits and was peacefully gathering when it was attacked by another group of violent Clinton supporters. That is the story. The 'journalist' was to assess equal blame when it was obvious what happened. Few people support the skinheads and Nazis but I am sorry this is America and in the America we know and love loons, kooks, and weirdos have as much right to speak and to rally as any other group of loons, kooks, and weirdos including Clinton supporters. If Clinton doesn't like it she ought to resign instead of sending her violent supporters to disrupt rallies, marches, etc."

[Leonard D Neubache]

I can't recall any other instance of a movement not only infecting multiple campuses across a country, but across the whole world.

Antifa is obviously organised and funded by something more powerful and moneyed than the broke, ramen-swilling arts majors that comprise its rank and file.

For a movement that organises street violence at the drop of a hat almost anywhere in the Western world there is a remarkable lack of information available about them.

[aeroektar]

These antifa clowns are funded and deployed the same way as BLM, and by the same powers. Its highly possible we are seeing test runs for the conventions, and further down the road the elections.

Buckle up.

[Dr. Howard]

History repeats itself.

I am old enough to remember about a movement in the late 80s/early 90s called "Anti Racist Action". After that died down those people them became "Environmentalists" and now that Environmentalism has died down they are "Antifas"

The name has changed, but the members are the same. Young people of legitimate priviledge that want to be members of a culturally endorsed gang. Under Anti Racists Action (ARA) there was a growth in White Supremacist gangs and it got to the point where the police declared or implied that they were "hands off" and offered no protection to the white supremacist members. The ranks of the ARA then swelled and it became open season on skindheads. The ARA 'joiners' knew that they could commit crimes against these people with no repercussions.

Same thing for the environmental movement. People joined it once it was shown that there were no charges laid against people for throwing paint on people wearing fur, crashing into whaling ships, burning logging equipment and setting booby traps for forestry workers.

Now its the same for Antifa. Their enemies used to be the police...they grew out of the G8 protests...but now over time as the police have made it clear that they will not be fucked with antifa has decided they need a new victim without the protection of the law and that is now nationalists.

I simply don't understand why there isn't a better strategy against them. The uniform is a black hoodie, face covering bandanna and sunglasses. Why wouldn't some nationalists just throw on the same thing and wait, undercover on the other side of the protest lines....the police in Canada figured out how to do that effectively at the 2010 G8 protests.

Either way, they have been co-opted and redirected from the only cause that they had that was close to righteous. Occupy wall street was the best idea they had, now they are back to beating on nationalists and skin heads until the signal becomes more certain that its ok to attack trump supporters (when that green light is lit watch out)

[nomadbrah]

(06-27-2016 06:42 AM)Atheistani Wrote:  

These guys are stupid. The word Aryan is Indic or Indo Iranian. White nationalists need to get educated and stop referring to themselves with Indo Iranian ethnonyms.

Well, the only people we know of who called themselves Aryans are those from ancient Iran and Vedic India, but the people who coined that word in their Indo-European language most certainly came from Southern Ukraine and were white, blonde people, no doubt about it.

[Fast Eddie]

(06-27-2016 12:33 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

History repeats itself.

I am old enough to remember about a movement in the late 80s/early 90s called "Anti Racist Action". After that died down those people them became "Environmentalists" and now that Environmentalism has died down they are "Antifas"

The name has changed, but the members are the same. Young people of legitimate priviledge that want to be members of a culturally endorsed gang. Under Anti Racists Action (ARA) there was a growth in White Supremacist gangs and it got to the point where the police declared or implied that they were "hands off" and offered no protection to the white supremacist members. The ranks of the ARA then swelled and it became open season on skindheads. The ARA 'joiners' knew that they could commit crimes against these people with no repercussions.

Same thing for the environmental movement. People joined it once it was shown that there were no charges laid against people for throwing paint on people wearing fur, crashing into whaling ships, burning logging equipment and setting booby traps for forestry workers.

Now its the same for Antifa. Their enemies used to be the police...they grew out of the G8 protests...but now over time as the police have made it clear that they will not be fucked with antifa has decided they need a new victim without the protection of the law and that is now nationalists.

I simply don't understand why there isn't a better strategy against them. The uniform is a black hoodie, face covering bandanna and sunglasses. Why wouldn't some nationalists just throw on the same thing and wait, undercover on the other side of the protest lines....the police in Canada figured out how to do that effectively at the 2010 G8 protests.

Either way, they have been co-opted and redirected from the only cause that they had that was close to righteous. Occupy wall street was the best idea they had, now they are back to beating on nationalists and skin heads until the signal becomes more certain that its ok to attack trump supporters (when that green light is lit watch out)

I'm not sure those parallels are completely accurate. I doubt the antifa's of the environmental movement were composed of black and hispanic youths, as the leftist thugs in California are. This seems to be a completely unrelated phenomena born of sheer demographic change and growing confidence that the time to finally put whitie in his place is drawing near.

[nomadbrah]

(06-27-2016 12:33 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  


I simply don't understand why there isn't a better strategy against them. The uniform is a black hoodie, face covering bandanna and sunglasses. Why wouldn't some nationalists just throw on the same thing and wait, undercover on the other side of the protest lines....the police in Canada figured out how to do that effectively at the 2010 G8 protests.

It's because white nationalist physical groups are still prole led and lack proper leadership. Antifas are weaklings and pussies, but they have smarter people in leadership, because it is socially acceptable.

[spokepoker]

I skimmed over the traditional worker's party website, I didn't see anything about white nationalism or neo nazi, if someone knows where that info is located, could they post it here?

[kaotic]

Is it wrong for me not to have sympathy for either side ?

[Dr. Howard]

(06-27-2016 12:58 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 12:33 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

History repeats itself.

I am old enough to remember about a movement in the late 80s/early 90s called "Anti Racist Action". After that died down those people them became "Environmentalists" and now that Environmentalism has died down they are "Antifas"

The name has changed, but the members are the same. Young people of legitimate priviledge that want to be members of a culturally endorsed gang. Under Anti Racists Action (ARA) there was a growth in White Supremacist gangs and it got to the point where the police declared or implied that they were "hands off" and offered no protection to the white supremacist members. The ranks of the ARA then swelled and it became open season on skindheads. The ARA 'joiners' knew that they could commit crimes against these people with no repercussions.

Same thing for the environmental movement. People joined it once it was shown that there were no charges laid against people for throwing paint on people wearing fur, crashing into whaling ships, burning logging equipment and setting booby traps for forestry workers.

Now its the same for Antifa. Their enemies used to be the police...they grew out of the G8 protests...but now over time as the police have made it clear that they will not be fucked with antifa has decided they need a new victim without the protection of the law and that is now nationalists.

I simply don't understand why there isn't a better strategy against them. The uniform is a black hoodie, face covering bandanna and sunglasses. Why wouldn't some nationalists just throw on the same thing and wait, undercover on the other side of the protest lines....the police in Canada figured out how to do that effectively at the 2010 G8 protests.

Either way, they have been co-opted and redirected from the only cause that they had that was close to righteous. Occupy wall street was the best idea they had, now they are back to beating on nationalists and skin heads until the signal becomes more certain that its ok to attack trump supporters (when that green light is lit watch out)

I'm not sure those parallels are completely accurate. I doubt the antifa's of the environmental movement were composed of black and hispanic youths, as the leftist thugs in California are. This seems to be a completely unrelated phenomena born of sheer demographic change and growing confidence that the time to finally put whitie in his place is drawing near.

How's that saying go? A picture is worth 1000 words? You could swap out these "save the environemtn' signs for "La Raza" "Black Lifes Matter" and "Crush Facism" an no one could notice.

[porscheguy]

(06-27-2016 02:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Is it wrong for me not to have sympathy for either side ?

I understand where you're coming from. A lot of white nationalist types are really just white trash.

OTOH, if they were there, holding a rally, with their permit, and they weren't breaking any laws, then the antifas were out of line to attack them.

There's an old antisemitic saying: The Jew cries out in agony when he hits you. It's a blame shifting tactic. The antifas will sucker punch you because they are "triggered" by your Trump t-shirt, and then they want to file charges against you for assault because they got a boxer's break in their hand. You remember that video from a month or two ago, where that little fuck spit on a Trump supporter, and in his next breath started going on about "you can't hit me, I'm a transgender, you can't hit a woman."

The antifas are becoming increasingly violent. Ultimately this will be bad for everyone because soon their violence will be met with escalated violence, and the elites will be clamoring for more gun control.

[Dusty]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[Fast Eddie]

(06-27-2016 03:04 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

The antifas are becoming increasingly violent. Ultimately this will be bad for everyone because soon their violence will be met with escalated violence, and the elites will be clamoring for more gun control.

Maybe the "skinheads" in this instance are more clever than we are giving them credit for. They did send some antifa faggots to the hospital with stab wounds, and their spokesman made a statement that they were prepared to defend themselves. So they were obviously expecting to be attacked and had made preparations for it, yet chose not to pack, or at least use, guns. It's very possible they made the conscious decision to avoid guns precisely to avoid feeding the gun control narrative. If so, well played and good on them.

[kaotic]

That's fine, I'm completely am fine with people wanting to have free speech.

You can't be pissed about nationalists and nazis on one end and flag burners/stompers on the other.

You have to accept both sides of the spectrum.

Of course I knew the antifas were going to attack, I know what happened locally in Anaheim out here in SoCal when the KKK held a rally.

Anyone attacked by antifas has a right to fight back.

Perhaps I just see it as a circle jerk of instigation and provocation.

[SamuelBRoberts]

"Is it wrong for me not to have sympathy for either side ?"

Considering that you and I both went to a "rape rally" that had these same anti-fa types threatening to attack us with bats, I think we need a little bit of skepticism about the way the media is reporting this story.

[All or Nothing]

(06-27-2016 02:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Is it wrong for me not to have sympathy for either side ?

No.

The behavior of the antifas group is deplorable, but so is wanting to unleash KKK and Nazi-like behavior on society. There is a reason why these "white nationalist" guys are marginalized in American society. There is a historical precedent for their marginalization.

[SamuelBRoberts]

"The behavior of the antifas group is deplorable, but so is wanting to unleash KKK and Nazi-like behavior on society. There is a reason why these "white nationalist" guys are marginalized in American society. There is a historical precedent for their marginalization."

What do they "Traditionalist Worker Party" believe that's so bad? I'm genuinely asking here, because I've never heard of them. Do they want to send jews to the gas chambers? Retake the Sudetenland? Are they putting burning crosses on people's yards? All I see is that the SLPC has them on a hate list. So what? The SLPC has us on a hate list, too.

[hydrogonian]

(06-27-2016 03:16 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

You can't be pissed about nationalists and nazis on one end and flag burners/stompers on the other.

You also can't be pissed about nationalists but not be pissed about all nationalists. That doesn't happen, though. Either something is amoral or it isn't. As it stands, Black, Latino, and Jewish nationalisms are encouraged.

There is a reason for that and it has nothing to do with historical precedent, fairness, justice, or morality.