[SamuelBRoberts]

"Well, the more women you can get the more you can deprive your enemies (in this case the liberals). "
This is a frankly insane way to look at marriage. "Why do you want three wives?" "Because that's two women who won't be marrying liberals!"

"Polygamy would be the best way to get your genes and your beliefs passed on and in a better position to succeed. This would be the best way for a 'tribe' to grow and marginalise its enemies."

This is completely wrong. The only polygynous tribes in North America exist in the deserts of northern Utah. They are hardly "successes". If the welfare funding was cut off they'd be dead within 3 generations. Also, polygynous tribes don't grow faster than monogamous tribes.

"Given the current state of cultural degeneracy in the West and the level of unhappiness of women, it's now simply a case of he who dares wins. "
"One does not need money or good looks or even advanced game. It's just a case of acting on opportunity. "

This strikes me as a lot like the guy in the Donald Trump thread who said it was "easy" to make 10 million dollars in real estate. When I asked him how much he'd made, he said that he hadn't actually earned a single dollar yet, but that he would totally drop a data sheet 6 years from now once he was a millionaire. If it's "easy" to convince two women or more women to break the bigamy laws and get married to you, have you done it? Do you know anyone, personally, who's done it successfully? Would you, or they, be willing to write up a data sheet on it?

"I can think of few things more beta than the idea that a man can only have one wife."
Polygamy is the province of regressive savages. (With weird exceptions like the Mormons in the 1800s, who had a huge surplus of women who needed husbands to survive in the deserts.) There's a reason every advanced society, from the Europeans to the Japanese, ditched it for monogamy. When a monogamous culture encounters a polygamous one, the polygamous one is reduced to humiliating irrelevancy. So if you want to be an alpha in a society of dirt-eaters who die at age 30, go for it. I think I'll stick with being Beta.

[Phoenix]

(07-01-2016 06:31 PM)Atheistani Wrote:  

I can think of few things more beta than the idea that a man can only have one wife.

Better hope you're born into the "haves" cast rather than the "have nots". Marriage is one of the few places where the socialist myth of the "zero sum game" is actually true.

I don't buy into this "got to have multiple women" stuff, I think it's largely a male reaction fueled by a degenerate society rather than a natural healthy order. It just smacks of low-life monkeys rather than higher-life civilized humans.

I know it was never my desire. I only got caught up in it as a massive overreaction to the suffering I felt in my youth. When I was young it never even occurred to me the idea of banging multiple women as some kind of calculating sex-ravenous hedonist. I always just wanted one special one who loved me. Indeed I guess I still want that, as distant as it still seems, in spite of the progress I've made. I don't enjoy playing, it's just a necessary part of avoiding the horrifying life of the third scenario: having nothing.

[Atheistani]

Whatever. Sometimes you need to think out of the box.

I reckon polygamy was always the norm in any society where marriage was an institution. For the simple reason that many men would die in war, many men would die hunting or whatever riskier activities men would have done in those times. Also factor in the number of men who for whatever reason didnt succeed. It's just a case of numbers.

It doesnt really mean most men would be left without, it just means most women can get married.

Anyway, it certainly looks like monogamy is working out well in the West given the divorce rate is only 50% and most women get married at the young age of 30-35. I can see your point.

(07-02-2016 10:20 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I always just wanted one special one who loved me.

You sound like someone who hasn't taken the red pill properly. This is exactly the type of Hollywood Romantic nonesense that is prevalent as the standard view in the current disfunctional marriage culture.

I would put any money on it:

If a man is capable of being loved by one woman, he is capable of maintaining a polygamous marriage with multiple women.

It's not easy for the average guy to be truly loved by a woman.

[Dantes]

As my friend Cobra says, doing things for the sake of red pill is just more blue pill.

To each his own.

Men are the true romantics and unfortunately the only acceptable way of expressing it is through music, art and poetry.

Nothing wrong with committing to a good woman as long as it is done properly. It's taboo here but many men seek connection and dare I say love from a good woman. It's unfortunate that there aren't enough of these good women in the West today. But it doesn't negate the desire for love.

[Phoenix]

(07-02-2016 02:03 PM)Atheistani Wrote:  

Whatever. Sometimes you need to think out of the box.

I reckon polygamy was always the norm in any society where marriage was an institution. For the simple reason that many men would die in war, many men would die hunting or whatever riskier activities men would have done in those times. Also factor in the number of men who for whatever reason didnt succeed. It's just a case of numbers.

It doesnt really mean most men would be left without, it just means most women can get married.

Anyway, it certainly looks like monogamy is working out well in the West given the divorce rate is only 50% and most women get married at the young age of 30-35. I can see your point. [sarcastic snark]

Perhaps you can refrain from being an arrogant, condescending, snarky cunt. When someone disagrees with you, they are not "failing to think outside the box". They just disagree because you're wrong.

What you 'reckon' is irrelevant. Just read a history book.

(07-02-2016 02:03 PM)Atheistani Wrote:  

You sound like someone who hasn't taken the red pill properly. This is exactly the type of Hollywood Romantic nonesense that is prevalent as the standard view in the current disfunctional marriage culture.

I would put any money on it:

If a man is capable of being loved by one woman, he is capable of maintaining a polygamous marriage with multiple women.

And you're nothing more than a keyboard alpha, and you sound like one of our recent Asperger's cases. You are a zero-value member, and I'd put money on El Chinito loco's neutral rep that you are in fact the next IRT. I've tried to communicate my feelings stemming from my life experience. You have done nothing here but spray your opinion around. What gives you the right to talk down to other members like this? You haven't posted a single thing about your own experiences, because you have none other than sitting in your mom's basement with a keyboard and a box of tissues. All you do is swing your 2-inch keyboard alpha dick on the internet, and you think that makes you significant. Have you ever stuck that dick in a woman? You should give it a go. One of your other Asperger's buddies recently had success! What have you done? Perhaps you should start there before embarking on your grand plans to have 4 wives.

[Tuthmosis]

(07-02-2016 02:03 PM)Atheistani Wrote:  

You sound like someone who hasn't taken the red pill properly. This is exactly the type of Hollywood Romantic nonesense that is prevalent as the standard view in the current disfunctional marriage culture.

You sound like some who just got a 3-day suspension.

Show some respect to the community if you'd like to remain a part of it.

[Tuthmosis]

(07-02-2016 11:07 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Perhaps you can refrain from being an arrogant, condescending, snarky cunt. When someone disagrees with you, they are not "failing to think outside the box". They just disagree because you're wrong.

Refrain from engaging in back-and-forth ad hominems. Just hit the report button and let the moderation team take care of it.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Well, it's been several days, and despite my rep count not ONE PERSON has offered to let me marry their daughter as part of a polygynous relationship.

Not a single one!

I'm feeling really let down by you guys! I even went and redecorated my room!




Anyway, I think we can put this silly idea to bed now.

[Cattle Rustler]

Considering OPs threads and post history.....I wonder if OP has girls locked up in his basement or in a shed in his backyard.

[armenia4ever]

Someone mentioned that women dont mind sharing high valuend men. That's incorrect from my personal experiences, as well as observations of others here, as well as what we know about game - dread game in particular.

Women don't want to share high value men. They want them for themselves only, as well as kind of trophy they can show off and spite other women.

Notice how jealous women get when a high value male is swimming in options as well as other women pursuing him.

If you want a house full of vicious angry jealous quarreling wives then polygamy may be for you. Imagine raising kids though....

[MiscBrah]

(07-04-2016 12:04 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Considering OPs threads and post history.....I wonder if OP has girls locked up in his basement or in a shed in his backyard.

Interested in this as well. Maybe he can bust out a datasheet. Don't let me down OP.

[Atheistani]

(07-02-2016 10:20 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Better hope you're born into the "haves" cast rather than the "have nots".

Why? Is being born wealthy the only way to be wealthy? You're attitude smacks of defeatism and I dont like you projecting that onto me.

(07-02-2016 10:20 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I don't buy into this "got to have multiple women" stuff

No one said you specifically must to practice it. I was clearly stating that there are (or could be) benefits to those who wish to practice it. Try and follow the conversation and not take things so personally, it's not about you personally.

(07-02-2016 10:20 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I think it's largely a male reaction fueled by a degenerate society rather than a natural healthy order. It just smacks of low-life monkeys rather than higher-life civilized humans.

So you get all upset over my post, but it's ok for you to go round calling large numbers of societies as "degenerate" and "low-life monkeys".

A preacher was giving a speech at a wedding I attended last year, and he was suggesting that if men could, they should take multiple wives. He said this would be good because there are too many unmarried women in our community. I dont actually know anyone who's done this though. I personally think given the opportunity I may want to give it a chance, but I certainly dont have resources atm.

But then I guess I and (to some extent) my 'group' are all "degenerate" "low-life monkeys" not "higher-life civilized" humans such as yourself.

(07-02-2016 11:07 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Perhaps you can refrain from being an arrogant, condescending, snarky cunt.

If only I could be more civilized...be my mentor?

(07-02-2016 11:07 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(07-02-2016 02:03 PM)Atheistani Wrote:  

I reckon polygamy was always the norm in any society where marriage was an institution.

...
What you 'reckon' is irrelevant. Just read a history book.

Before getting into specialist history books, perhaps you should take a look at Wikipedia..

Quote:

Polygamy is widely accepted among different societies worldwide. According to the Ethnographic Atlas, of 1,231 societies noted, 588 had frequent polygyny, 453 had occasional polygyny, 186 were monogamous and 4 had polyandry.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

So that's over 1,000 societies practicing polygamy out of 1,231 seen. You also need to understand that this does not include what I would call 'tolerated' polygamy which also exists in America and Great Britain, and also does not include the keeping of mistresses, something which (until very recently atleast) was quite common within the Noble classes.

(07-02-2016 11:07 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(07-02-2016 02:03 PM)Atheistani Wrote:  

You sound like someone who hasn't taken the red pill properly. This is exactly the type of Hollywood Romantic nonesense that is prevalent as the standard view in the current disfunctional marriage culture.
.......

And you're nothing more than a keyboard alpha, and you sound like one of our recent Asperger's cases. You are a zero-value member, and I'd put money on El Chinito loco's neutral rep that you are in fact the next IRT. I've tried to communicate my feelings stemming from my life experience. You have done nothing here but spray your opinion around. What gives you the right to talk down to other members like this? You haven't posted a single thing about your own experiences, because you have none other than sitting in your mom's basement with a keyboard and a box of tissues. All you do is swing your 2-inch keyboard alpha dick on the internet, and you think that makes you significant. Have you ever stuck that dick in a woman? You should give it a go. One of your other Asperger's buddies recently had success! What have you done? Perhaps you should start there before embarking on your grand plans to have 4 wives.

I dont think it's helpful for you to get upset. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed to me your declaration was somewhat blue-pill in nature. You both put the girl on a pedestal ("special") and also seem to see yourself as the passive one in the scenario. I didnt realise you would get so upset by the observation and I thought this was the type of thing we discussed here.

[SamuelBRoberts]

"I dont think it's helpful for you to get upset. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed to me your declaration was somewhat blue-pill in nature. You both put the girl on a pedestal ("special") and also seem to see yourself as the passive one in the scenario. I didnt realise you would get so upset by the observation and I thought this was the type of thing we discussed here."

Thanks for this valuable content.
Now do I get to screw your daughter or not?

[Phoenix]

I thank my opponent for bolding the best bits of my post, but I have no wish for further dialog with him again. I will merely restate that I don't think he is a good fit for this community, and I will leave it there.

[Rhyme or Reason]

If NASA Test Pilot was a thread, he would be this one.

[Vanthassel]

(07-03-2016 11:08 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Well, it's been several days, and despite my rep count not ONE PERSON has offered to let me marry their daughter as part of a polygynous relationship.

Obviously you need to work on getting more rep points first.

[Vanthassel]

(07-07-2016 02:07 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Thanks for this valuable content.
Now do I get to screw your daughter or not?

Not. And you don't need to. You've been a complete clown about this whole subject, so obviously you can get lots of girls with clown game.

http://www.rooshv.com/clown-game-vs-good-man-game