[Kinko]

How out of control has the sugar daddy thing become? Is it just me or does it seem like the majority of college women are doing this?

Some of the traits they have are new clothes, new jewlery, expensive watches, designer eye glasses, professional hair cuts, hair styles, flashy nails. Also that updated change in their appearance occurs suddenly, and then they have an amplified sense of entitlement coming out of nowhere. I describe their attitudes towards me as intense disinterest.

Is this sugar baby prostitution thing just really bad where I live? Is it as obvious by you guys too?

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

Almost all of your posts involve "sugar mommies/daddies/babies"

[Glaucon]

Are you want to be a sugar baby or a daddy?

[spacetime]

(06-03-2016 10:10 AM)Kinko Wrote:  

How out of control has the sugar daddy thing become? Is it just me or does it seem like the majority of college women are doing this?

Some of the traits they have are new clothes, new jewlery, expensive watches, designer eye glasses, professional hair cuts, hair styles, flashy nails. Also that updated change in their appearance occurs suddenly, and then they have an amplified sense of entitlement coming out of nowhere. I describe their attitudes towards me as intense disinterest.

Is this sugar baby prostitution thing just really bad where I live? Is it as obvious by you guys too?

Some statistics are showing that in United States alone, about 35% - 45% of college/University girls are prostituting themselves under the label of "sugar babies"

[Kinko]

Hi, just so you know I think it is a big issue. If that is what you are suggesting, no I am not a troll and I am a male. I have had girlfriends secretly doing this. Its really discusting, and not so much because of prostitution, but this modern sugar daddy industry has some deeper layers of who-knows-what that is really sad for guys my age. Also there is something seriously off at my college campus and it's not just bratty entitled girls. Why are they so pissed off? And they have that attitude of intense-disinterest in the men they are traditionally supposed to be dating...

[Kinko]

"Are you want to be a sugar baby or a daddy?"

Hey, Chad, no I don't. I couldn't be one because these old sugar daddy stooges are baby boomers who highjacked the economy. Unfortunately can barely afford to survive on my own.

[heavy]

What's disgusting about it? Because it's not traditional? It's arguably the most traditional type of relationship, as old as mankind.

Women really care about a man providing, even if not completely. It's a large part of what makes a man...the ability to provide, at least for himself.

I'm not saying it's good or bad, it's just sorta like gravity. It's sorta like saying gravity is disgusting.

Of course, prostitution was frowned upon in the Middle Ages, but it was still tolerated because it was considered better than the alternative—not having prostitutes.

On Prostitution

[Cattle Rustler]

Why make a new thread about it when there's already 3 active SA threads?

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(06-03-2016 10:22 AM)spacetime Wrote:  

Some statistics are showing that in United States alone, about 35% - 45% of college/University girls are prostituting themselves under the label of "sugar babies"

Link? I find that hard to believe.

[XPQ22]

No matter how many millions of dollars "sugar daddies" drop on their "sugar babies", the MSM will still portray them as victimized, exploited college girls, I'm sure. Because college should be free.

Once everything is free for young women and they can have whatever they want whenever they want it, perhaps they'll stop being portrayed as victims.

But I doubt it.

[spacetime]

prostitutes who prefer the label "sugar babies" can receive payment of $ 60,000
per year from each one of their clients ("sugar daddies")

Multiply with how many men each one is able to "serve" and you will see how fast the numbers add up

http://nextshark.com/inside-the-life-of-...00-a-year/

http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/geezers-pay...rostitute/

[EDantes]

(06-03-2016 10:49 AM)heavy Wrote:  

What's disgusting about it? Because it's not traditional? It's arguably the most traditional type of relationship, as old as mankind.

Can't totally blame young women for taking this route especially in these hard economic times; plus at least it isn't a drain on the taxpayer like the women who make a bunch of babies and become Warren Buffet and Bill Gates' "sugar baby" courtesy of the welfare system.

I suppose what's disgusting about it is that deep down the man knows she's only married to his paycheck and fantasies about attractive men when she's making love to him; since even a nerdy, obese computer programmer who makes $100,000 a year could find some superficial college girl to make love to his wallet... I mean him.

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On the flip side my opinion is that while this is a "traditional" relationship, it's the type of traditional relationship that betas historically always settled for when they couldn't win a woman over with their own game and machismo; the old, wealthy, Viagra popping sugar daddy isn't really any different than the henpecked house husband who's wife sleeps with the hot yoga instructor in his bed while he's out at work; basically historically men with "game" and masculine confidence were able to win women over with their own swagger, while men with no game had to settle for trophy wives; times haven't changed much, except traditionally the "macho men" were also the best providers, whereas nowadays the "beta" accountant can often outearn the alpha Navy SEAL commander; whereas in an ancient eras, those who could hunt, fight, and negotiate conflict were also the chief earners.

[rpg]

Hot women are easy to understand. Their only objective is to pursue maximum comfort and luxury and will do anything to obtain it.

[Dantes]

This trend illustrates the moral low we have achieved. There use to be a clear line between prostitutes and normal girls. The line is now blurry with "normal girls" having no shame to sell their pussies to the highest bidder instead of working hard to pay off bills.

The absence of social shaming for women enables their most egregious behavior. It also underscores that women will get away with whatever they can as long as they don't suffer socially.

[EDantes]

(06-03-2016 02:14 PM)rpg Wrote:  

Hot women are easy to understand. Their only objective is to pursue maximum comfort and luxury and will do anything to obtain it.

Don't totally agree with that; while women want a sense of security, I think in an ideal environment they also want a man who's a real man.

Hence women who settle to become a "kept woman" for a sugar daddy or 'beta provider' end up inwardly dissatisfied much like the beta husband who settles for an easy domineering wife.

The emasculation of men today affects both sexes adversely, and while progressives want to claim they're "liberating" women they're actually harming them; leaving them with either the option of pursuing the macho men but winding up a used up whore in their old age, or settling for a beta and feeling romantically dissatisfied for their whole life.

(06-03-2016 02:20 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

This trend illustrates the moral low we have achieved. There use to be a clear line between prostitutes and normal girls. The line is now blurry with "normal girls" having no shame to sell their pussies to the highest bidder instead of working hard to pay off bills.

The absence of social shaming for women enables their most egregious behavior. It also underscores that women will get away with whatever they can as long as they don't suffer socially.

In a way one could argue that a "beta provider" marriage is also prostitution; the line between a housewife and a "kept woman" is actually fairly thin when she's not attracted to the man at all but rather just settling for him because he's convenient.

[Deepdiver]

Look a little cold hard reality and the facts of life are in order here... the days of working your way through college in the Campus bookstore or a local cafe are OVER. Costs of tuition, student loans and the costs of living have skyrocketed out of control with nearly no concept of competition and cost controls entering the discussion in preferred College locations.

Unlike the highly competitive fields like manufacturing, food, broadband and cell phone services, Colleges and Healthcare/Big Pharma are doing everything they can do to raise prices at double the real rate of inflation if not more.

So what does an intelligent attractive and sexy college coed do?

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/arc...on/379533/
"In 2013, Seeking Arrangement announced that approximately 44 percent of its 2.3 million “babies” are in college. This is a trend that the website encourages—if babies register with a .edu email account, they receive a free premium membership (something the guys have to shell out as much as $1,200 for). Seeking Arrangement creates the illusion that the sexual element of these relationships isn’t forced, but organic. No one associated with the website wants to admit that what it’s doing is facilitating sex-for-money exchanges. The large number of college women on the site helps preserve this illusion, for both the daddies and the babies."

And... the average cost of a 4 year degree at a top tier school is around $200,000 that is more than the median cost of a home in most of the USA fly over states.

You are not going to make $200K on tips working as a tutor, waitress or in a retail shop.

All is not lost http://time.com/money/4072951/college-ge...p-culture/ this article indicates the current gender ratio is 57% female to 43% male on most campuses nationwide and a majority of women will pair up in their sophomore years and keep their men through the junior and senior years and many marrying after school. The goal remains for most feminine women to find a decent hard working young man from a good family... however there exists a cohort of hot feminine sexy intelligent young ladies who do not come from trust fund baby backgrounds and whose parents may have mortgaged the family home just to pay tuition with nothing left over for the extras that most classy young ladies like, a decent wardrobe, electronics, class sponsored trips, a set of wheels etc etc.

So just face facts, women want a man with either a stiff wallet or a stiff dick in varying proportions to provide for their physical and sexual needs - so deal with the current economic reality - read the extensive master SA thread and develop some game. You actually have a natural numerical advantage so learn to get over oneitis for one hot girl and go red pill with an abundance mentality and be wise enough to both game and keep the ones you decide are keepers for however you want to keep them.

[XPQ22]

(06-03-2016 03:01 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

So just face facts, women want a man with either a stiff wallet or a stiff dick in varying proportions to provide for their physical and sexual needs - so deal with the current economic reality - read the extensive master SA thread and develop some game. You actually have a natural numerical advantage so learn to get over oneitis for one hot girl and go red pill with an abundance mentality and be wise enough to both game and keep the ones you decide are keepers for however you want to keep them.

Some girls I've talked to are even completely open about this. I had one online dating hoe tell me straight up "I date to find love (i.e. find a provider) and I also date for sex."

[Turnus]

Those who know how to play the game can use this to their benefit. I for one am appreciative of these pretty young things chasing the dream.

[262]

If OP had asked how to Game sugar babies, this thread would be in the right forum section. Though it'd be a dupe of the SA thread.

Right now it belongs in Everything Excrement.

[Kinko]

Some sugar babies are not hard to game for free. As I stated in a previous response, I've dated some that secretly have sugar daddy "beneficiaries". Come to think of it, some are pretty easy to screw because I'm basically working class poor, and I get laid for free. But it does not make it any easier to accept. I mean, I might be "red pill" as some say, but Im not a pimp. I don't work at a strip club or a brothel. Selling vagina is not my occupation, Im just an ordinary guy in comparison.

Think of how many less girls would be seeking arrangements when the economy was perfect (and so much different) during the 60's 70's and 80's. A lot less.

I have a fake male account on Seeking Arrangements. Its even got a photo of some overweight grey haired baby boomer guy leaning on his fancy sports car in front of a golf course. With a big stupid grin on his face. I had just google searched "rich looking baby boomer guy" and used the first photo I saw. Whoever that guy is, the girls see him on my fake account and he constantly gets visits and messages. Mostly from girls 18-25.

I even showed my account to a women I was screwing and she thought it was hilarious. She had an old sugar daddy she was open about telling me about, always making fun of how stupid he was, all while I was still screwing her. She swore up and down that there was no sex involved. Yeah right.

I have not logged on to my SA account for a long time but the profile is still active, and whenever a new girl views my profile or sends me a note, I get an email that shows her profile photo. So I often recognize them as the same nice college girls I see at my college library, and in my classes, or around campus. Except the girls are gussied up with make up and sunglasses, and always with a big rediculous fake smile on their faces, probably lit up on pills. Unlike when I see them at the library they do not smile like that, they are just uptight and stressed out.

And Im not exactly attending an ivy league school either. Im at a large size community college. Its not that expensive to attend my college, and there are plenty of jobs on campus.

But then there are some sexy hetero college girls who act irrationally disinterested in flirting. Whats that all about, really. I suspect they just devote all of their feelings to these sugar daddies, that's sad. These sugar babies are hard to figure out. Its like their panties are made out of a cold iron and brick wall.

The women are bitchy though. They're wearing watches that are probably real and cost 10-20k, and wearing diamond earrings and other expensive accessories. I can tell they are not rich girls either. So it sets the bar really high. Basically all I am to them is a hot guy who has a sexualizing vibe that they like, but can't act upon because theyve got to get their bills to paid by these grey haired stooges. They get addicted to getting expensive gifts and cash. Which isn't surprising either I mean, if your girlfriend was forking over 5k per month and buying you free cars and condos don't you think that would change things for you?

You guys keep gaming these sugar babies. I am aiming for non/sugar babies, you know, non/prostitutes...