Quote: (05-27-2016 08:56 PM)Chaos Preacher Wrote:
I agree that our military is very, very good at defeating an enemy in a conventional style war. But no one today is going to be stupid and/or suicidal enough to fight one of those against America.
It is not good at all when it comes to occupying territory, putting down insurgencies, and reshaping a society in an image more acceptable to us. And nearly every conflict we've entered since World War 2 has been more the latter than the former.
When it comes to unleashing brute destructive force, America has no equal. When it comes to actually accomplishing its political objectives, it's been an utter disgrace.
What do you think our military is for, exactly? It's not the fault of the military if politicians try to make it into a combination police force and social reengineering machine. That's like trying to tow a 20,000# trailer with a Corvette, it's a stupid misuse of resources.
As an example, I was an infantryman. My job description was: "Locate, close with, and destroy the enemy." That's what I was trained to do. What in that suggests I would make a good cop, or be well suited to win the hearts and minds of the locals? That's what MPs and Civil Affairs people are for, but there were a
lot more combat troops playing at those jobs than people who were actually trained for them.
However, you're wrong about how good the military is at putting down insurgencies and occupying territory. The US military is great at it, when it is allowed to do the job. But when the politicians saddle the military with absurd rules of engagement and escalation of force procedures that make it impossible for the soldiers to legally suppress the enemy, how is that the military's fault?
As I already said, the political goals are impossible without decades of effort. You know what it would take to stabilize the middle east? Occupation for at least 30 years and a concentrated effort to change the culture. That means putting Americans in charge and indoctrinating a whole generation of kids in our way of life. Outlawing the things that would let their parents pass on their culture: for example, make speaking the local language illegal. English only, and no Islamic culture at all allowed. If we won't do that, nothing will change. And of course, we never will.
Also, things are not as bad as you paint them. Oh, the latest middle east adventure was pretty lame, which is pretty much entirely because Obama is a gigantic sopping pussy who threw away everything we accomplished through 2008. But what else have we actually lost? Korea was in many ways a success, as was Vietnam. Just because liberal historians claim the wars were ineffectual doesn't mean they actually
were.