Quote: (03-07-2016 09:36 PM)captain_shane Wrote:
Rednecks thought that they held off the cops with that Bundy Ranch shit. Yeah, they held off cops with p-shooters riding horses.
Try holding off a swarm of these things:
Followed by thousands of their friends:
Yeah I'm not worried about fighting robots any time in the next 20 years. I'm not going to get into a long explanation of why, but let's just say powering them is a nontrivial problem and so is controlling them.
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Don't forget sound cannons:
My pal the anti-materiel rifle has something to say about that. Even a 308 would be plenty to disable that thing.
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There will never be an over throw of the government by the people. The only way it would happen would be by military coup. The people would get absolutely slaughtered against our militarized police force far before it would get to the actual military.
Remember, this was just Ferguson.
You think we can do anything but hide against shit like this?
Cops aren't soldiers, no matter how they dress. They rely a great deal on shows of force and intimidation, and that might work on rioters and criminals, but against people who are serious about fighting back it just makes them great targets. And armor is hardly invulnerable.
Do you have any military experience? Combat experience? Are you familiar with the nature of asymmetrical warfare? How much maintenance do armored vehicles require? How about helicopters? What are the logistical challenges in a civil war, where there's no clear front of battle?
Who's going to run and maintain all this equipment? I guess the cops and soldiers are
all just mindless drones who will unquestioningly support the government? Even if they are--I think about 1/3 minimum would defect--there are only a few million total police and military in the entire country. Do you have any idea how many gun owners there are? If even 5% of gun owners fought back, the cops and military would be outnumbered 2 to 1.
This notion that an armed revolt against the government would be fought toe to toe is just absurd.
In Iraq I was always happy when the enemy was just shooting at me because they couldn't shoot for shit, and it meant they were in my line of sight somewhere. I
can shoot, so they were fucked. In America, I would be terrified if civilians were shooting at me because it's about even odds they're skilled hunters or shooters who don't just spray and pray. I could walk out of my house right now with my deer rifle and hit a 12" target at 300m on the first shot from an improvised rest. There are millions of Americans who can do the same thing, and most of them are not cops.
Thanks for the fear mongering, but you don't know what you're talking about.