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Economic collapse and the end of the modern beta male
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Economic collapse and the end of the modern beta male

My prediction is that if the American economy ever seriously collapses it will help to put an end to the rise of the modern beta male.

While these "Marvin Milquetoast" men have always been around, it's actually the post-War economic boom and the invention of the service economy that is responsible for all of the namby pamby stuff that we see to day.

The reason is that it helped "level the playing field" by shifting the economy away from physical and manufacturing jobs which our pre-WWII grandfathers performed, to androgynous service and desk jobs; in addition to no longer engaging in testosterone boosting labor, bad diets and lack of exercise also play a part

Likewise since women are the primary shoppers and media consumers, the majority of TV commercials, daytime television, etc are oriented toward women.

So the decline of physical labor, nutrition and exercise, co-ed nature of education and the workplace, and female-oriented media all combine to create a climate which encourages effeminacy in men.

While many blame "the feminist movement" of the 1960s, it is actually only a symptom of the real problem, which is the economy itself; and contrary to the progressive myth, society has not constantly been "moving forward" since the dawn of man with less and less "oppression" as the years go by, it has fluctuated greatly throughout history based on the economy of the time.

(Many Millenials think that "more technology and science" = more progress, but this actually quite absurd, as the Nazi Germans had much more technological and scientific knowledge than the ancient Greek and Roman philosophers did but were barbaric in their cultural ideology).

The advent of female birth control and expansion of the welfare system also played a part in the rise of the 60s counter-culture and feminist movement; as there was now far less risk and incentive for women to be chaste and depend on a man to provide for her.

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The good news however is that this service economy can't last forever - it over expanded following the Baby Boom and we are now seeing the negative effects.

If the economy ever does crash then it will be like nature hitting the "rewind button" a little.

Frivolous service and entertainment industry jobs will decline as the economy will be more in need of real, manly labor.

Colleges will no longer be able to serve as havens for "Womyn's studies" or "Marxist sociology" majors once the student loan funds try up and these sheltered kids are forced to get a real job or risk starvation.

Single mothers in da hood making a living off of having babies to increase their monthly benefits will be forced to keep their legs shut or risk real world consequences once the welfare faucet has finally dried up.

And betas and white knights will have to man up or let social Darwinism take its course; no longer will they be able to hide from reality on some My Little Pony fan fiction website when it comes knocking at their door.

If we are lucky it will be Tabula Rasa - but not a complete Escape from New York scenario; but if nothing else the masculine values of our WWII ancestors which were lost in favor of smartphones, Facebook games, and bad romantic comedies will be revived somewhat.

To me human history has not been an "upward slope" but more akin to a fluctuating wave; it's taken sharp turns for better or worse but in the end always rebalances itself, so in the end I'm optimistic about the dying state of masculinity today - there's not much further it could go so at this point, it's bound to have a rebound.
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Economic collapse and the end of the modern beta male

History in many cases is a constant flow of rags to riches to rags, like the passing of the seasons.

Winter: People struggle to survive. They build traditions that aid in that struggle.
Spring: The worst passes. The traditions that kept people alive now allow them to prosper.
Summer: Civilisation reaches its apex. Everything will be good forever, and few can remember why all those boring old traditions were ever necessary in the first place.
Autumn: The foundations of society have been left to rot for too long. Collapse is imminent. To quote House Stark, winter is coming.

You can almost chart many of these "seasons" to each passing generation. We like to think that increases in technology will endlessly improve our lives, and that summer will last for ever and ever. Personally I think winter is coming, and that both betas and cucks will not be around come spring.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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Economic collapse and the end of the modern beta male

Good observations. What you described would drastically change the sexual marketplace by reducing the number of women in the workforce:

- the state would no longer be able to provide women with social security in the form of jobs in government administration;

- also, a reversal to free market capitalism and absence of anti-discriminatory laws would gradually give incentive to business owners to start hiring men instead of women. Why hire a woman and risk losing her to child care leave, when you can hire a man who will probably do a better job?

Add to this a restoration of traditional family values, and the 'Alpha fux, Beta bux' sexual strategy of modern women would be severely curtailed.
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Economic collapse and the end of the modern beta male

Hope not.

If the past 15 years, especially since 2007-now has shown us is this, guys who are the perfect little work horse can go a full-180 and kill others, including thier own blood and family members.

How many murder-suicides have we seen from men who lost their jobs, livelihoods or divorced?
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Economic collapse and the end of the modern beta male

Quote: (03-26-2016 05:12 PM)Khan Wrote:  

Good observations. What you described would drastically change the sexual marketplace by reducing the number of women in the workforce:

- the state would no longer be able to provide women with social security in the form of jobs in government administration;

- also, a reversal to free market capitalism and absence of anti-discriminatory laws would gradually give incentive to business owners to start hiring men instead of women. Why hire a woman and risk losing her to child care leave, when you can hire a man who will probably do a better job?

Add to this a restoration of traditional family values, and the 'Alpha fux, Beta bux' sexual strategy of modern women would be severely curtailed.
Like you I try to be optimistic and not let current fads cause me to become too cynical.

Worst case scenario that I can see is that if men continue to become too effiminized, government will shift more and more in a totalitarian direction as they become too weak to look after themselves.

I believe when democracy only works when many men are strong and equally respect each other.

In society when many men are weak but a few are strong, they will inevitably wield their power over their inferiors.
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