[Hendrixian]

I use Friends as a muffling sound when I'm having sex in my bedroom.

[RexImperator]

In the early seasons Aniston really had a fantastic pair of titties, perking out in those tight tops. That's what I'll remember from that show.

[renotime]

(02-20-2016 07:22 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 05:49 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

I agree with you, but sitcoms in general cater to the lowest common denominator and are all horribly unfunny (including Seinfeld).

I completely agree. There's a reason why Roosh recommends this show as a teaching tool to learn how to talk to women.

That show is a good way to dumb ourselves down to their level. Women only really understand simplistic and downright boring humour.

[Paracelsus]

(02-20-2016 06:17 PM)booshala Wrote:  

Korean girls love Friends... It's unbelievable how without fail every single Korean girl that I've interacted with loves this show. I know two native Koreans who have actually learned fairly decent conversational English by habitually watching the show over and over again.

I have heard similarly that episodes of the show are used to teach English in Korea. The show's dialogue is plain, and uncomplicated. In other words, it's third-grade-level. That's why it appealed to a generation of uneducated Western fuckwits.

[Brosemite]

(02-20-2016 06:26 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

I do generally agree with the OP. The show was basically Sex and the City lite with Monica, Rachel and Phoebe slutting it around. Ross and Chandler were your typical betas and Joey was the only with game but was a complete idiot.

It was a garbage show which told millions of women to slut it up and then get the guy to marry in your late 30s, and told the men to be a beta who puts these girls on a pedestal.

Even worse...it gave fat women the delusional hope they could one day pull off the same feat.....

Oh wait..it's become reality with all this beta thirst around..

[Cobra]

Dissenting opinion here. Yes, the characters were pussies (mostly) and there weren't many alpha personalities there.

However, I found the show extremely humorous. Let's not forget that there is nothing about humor that's either alpha or beta. I'm not ashamed to say I laughed at a lot of it, especially Chandler.

That being said, the pedestalization of women was the worst thing about it. Every time there was a woman one of the guys (except Joey) liked, they would stop being funny like they were around their friends. Instead they turn outcome dependent.

My point is that the STYLE of humor that the male characters use on women actually works in getting them interested. Lot of women find it endearing and entertaining. However, at that point you have to escalate and that's not funny to the intended audience of the show. The creators know this and put barriers in front of the characters that are more inner game related. Joey, again is the exception of course.

I'll say that I'm actually funnier because of the show but no better a man because I now know how to filter the liberal crap.

Edit: It was a fairly beta ass sitcom named "Charles in Charge" in the 90s that contributed greatly to my American accent when I first came to the USA. It demonstrated what white Americans find funny. If it wasn't for me watching sitcoms, I would still have an Indian accent and also wouldn't be as funny.

[TheSlayer]

(02-20-2016 07:37 PM)Goldhawkstar Wrote:  

Sitcoms, and most shows in general, always make the main character a beta male cuckold because that way he'll apply to most modern men and therefore the show will get more fans.

This is a good thread idea, though. This is one of the biggest shows ever, and admittedly I spent a lot of my childhood watching it. I've seen every episode at least once. The Ross/Rachel relationship was by far the most annoying aspect of it; mainly because the show focused a huge chunk of time talking about it and making them go back and forth. I sincerely never cared.

Rachel wasn't even a perfect 10 to begin with. What a waste of a pedestal. She was an average-looking idiot and the definition of a basic bitch. Nothing special or unique about her.

And it was funny that everyone seemed to agree that Rachel was the hot one. I would have banged Monica over Rachel any day. Maybe even Phoebe.

Joey was the man, though.

Seinfeld wasn't beta at all though (not the show but the main character). Kramer was also an eccentric and charming bum whom the ladies loved.

Elaine was kind of your typical basic feminist bitch but it's not there was pandering to feminists and other SJW agendas.

[GoldHawkStar]

(02-20-2016 10:05 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

Seinfeld wasn't beta at all though (not the show but the main character). Kramer was also an eccentric and charming bum whom the ladies loved.

Elaine was kind of your typical basic feminist bitch but it's not there was pandering to feminists and other SJW agendas.

I really need to watch Seinfeld. I've never seen it and I've heard of Roosh's advice. Apparently it's something good to watch before you go out. Maybe I'll drop Netflix and switch to Hulu for a bit.

[Captain Gh]

You guys were on a Break Rachel!

[Fitzgerald]

I'd catch the occasional episode on syndication when I was a kid, and it has its funny moments. I tried watching it from the beginning after Netflix started streaming it, but only got partway through episode 3 before going "nah".


In the very first episode Ross's pregnant wife leaves him for a woman, then she and her lesbian lover decide that they will raise the baby together without his involvement (without even running it by him first, just sprang it on him), and that it's last name will be a hyphenation of the two ladies' names.

And he just rolled over and took it.

Chandler was annoying as fuck, I paid attention to every single one of his lines, and they were all some negative snarky statement, the kind that typically come from those types of guys who are simultaneously deeply insecure and have a superiority complex. Each of those conversations would have gone on the same way if his lines weren't in them, they were so superfluous.

Phoebe's bad songwriting was probably the best part about that show.

[la bodhisattva]

(02-20-2016 10:05 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 07:37 PM)Goldhawkstar Wrote:  

Sitcoms, and most shows in general, always make the main character a beta male cuckold because that way he'll apply to most modern men and therefore the show will get more fans.

This is a good thread idea, though. This is one of the biggest shows ever, and admittedly I spent a lot of my childhood watching it. I've seen every episode at least once. The Ross/Rachel relationship was by far the most annoying aspect of it; mainly because the show focused a huge chunk of time talking about it and making them go back and forth. I sincerely never cared.

Rachel wasn't even a perfect 10 to begin with. What a waste of a pedestal. She was an average-looking idiot and the definition of a basic bitch. Nothing special or unique about her.

And it was funny that everyone seemed to agree that Rachel was the hot one. I would have banged Monica over Rachel any day. Maybe even Phoebe.

Joey was the man, though.

Seinfeld wasn't beta at all though (not the show but the main character). Kramer was also an eccentric and charming bum whom the ladies loved.

Elaine was kind of your typical basic feminist bitch but it's not there was pandering to feminists and other SJW agendas.

I was watching some behind the scenes interviews about Seinfeld's pilot. The network told David and Seinfeld that they liked the show but wanted a female co-star. David was absolutely against it. For what reason, I don't recall. However, David acquiesced with the intent to write Elaine as a male character.

This approach is interesting for a couple of reasons:

1. Elaine is unique in sitcoms because as a female she is written with flaws. She isn't just needy, but bitchy, righteous, shallow, vain, dense (extremely rare for a female character to not be the smartest), and her part of her comedy is a result of bad things happening to her or her poor decisions, not her being inhumanly witty and acerbic ALL THE DAMN TIME like most "funny" female characters.

2. Did David and Seinfeld realize the inaccurate portrayal of women on TV and in movies? Was insisting on writing her character essentially as male somehow saying, "Hey look, in all the shows on TV every female character, though sometimes not very interesting, is entirely smart, capable, competent, pretty, and successful. Women aren't like that. They're much like men. They do dumb things. Smart things. Fail. Succeed. We will write a character with the warts and all that reflect the American female." Or perhaps I'm too optimistic in how red pill David and Seinfeld are.

[TheSlayer]

(02-20-2016 11:21 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  

I was watching some behind the scenes interviews about Seinfeld's pilot. The network told David and Seinfeld that they liked the show but wanted a female co-star. David was absolutely against it. For what reason, I don't recall. However, David acquiesced with the intent to write Elaine as a male character.

This approach is interesting for a couple of reasons:

1. Elaine is unique in sitcoms because as a female she is written with flaws. She isn't just needy, but bitchy, righteous, shallow, vain, dense (extremely rare for a female character to not be the smartest), and her part of her comedy is a result of bad things happening to her or her poor decisions, not her being inhumanly witty and acerbic ALL THE DAMN TIME like most "funny" female characters.

2. Did David and Seinfeld realize the inaccurate portrayal of women on TV and in movies? Was insisting on writing her character essentially as male somehow saying, "Hey look, in all the shows on TV every female character, though sometimes not very interesting, is entirely smart, capable, competent, pretty, and successful. Women aren't like that. They're much like men. They do dumb things. Smart things. Fail. Succeed. We will write a character with the warts and all that reflect the American female." Or perhaps I'm too optimistic in how red pill David and Seinfeld are.

You are right. I too have read the fact that NBC forced Seinfeld and David to add a woman to the show to make it more interesting for the audiences.

I also agree that Elaine's character as a feminist is shown to be stupid at times, dense, vain, shallow, and also the show makes a lot of jokes at her expense. While other sitcoms will also make fun of their female character that comes after a ton of feminist and SJW pandering which Elaine's character doesn't convey at all. Unlike shows like How I Met Your Whore Mother and Friends, there is also no happy ending for Elaine after riding the cock carousel. She doesn't get to marry Jerry at the end of the show for her dream wedding. That to me is huge after watching a lot of these sitcoms where the feminist agenda is nauseatingly on display. I don't really know how "red pill" Seinfeld and David are but they definitely wrote Elaine uniquely and did not put her on a pedestal.

Hell, even X-Files which a lot of people like on this forum is guilty of that. I have been watching that show from the beginning on Netflix are there are a lot of feminist undertones with Scully. I am only on season 3 but there have been moments where Scully has talked about "being a woman in a man's world and helping other female officers" or being an "equal partner" with Mulder.

Funny thing is 5-7 years ago I wouldn't have blinked an eye watching that crap but now I can recognize these agendas right away.

[Nonpareil]

If it makes you feel any better - the only people who give a shit about Friends anymore (as has been highlighted in this thread) are basic young chicks from Korea and China that you'd only want to fuck 2-3 times anyways.

[Silver_Tube]

The opposite day episode of seinfield where george transforms his life by acting the opposite of his instinct has inspired the transformation of more than a few men. It isn't a bad show to check watch from time to time.

[Suits]

(02-20-2016 11:47 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

If it makes you feel any better - the only people who give a shit about Friends anymore are (as has been highlighted in this thread) are basic young chicks from Korea and China that you'd only want to fuck 2-3 times anyways.

I usually fuck them four times.

Once per hole.

[dispenser]

Unrealistic hopes for women, unrealistic hopes for betas, and unrealistic hopes for people who want to live in NY.
Not so much sugar coated blue-pill as just plain sugarpill.

[Mercenary]

(02-20-2016 07:37 PM)Goldhawkstar Wrote:  

And it was funny that everyone seemed to agree that Rachel was the hot one.
I would have banged Monica over Rachel any day. Maybe even Phoebe.

Who the hell agreed that nonsense ?
Phoebe had the longest hair.
Also, her playful, innocent, good natured and "dumb" demeanour made her instantly more attractive to me, than super bitch Rachel.
Forget Monica and Rachel....Phoebe was the only "hot" one among those 3.

[Gmac]

(02-20-2016 06:03 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Never watched a single episode

Same here. Never had any desire to watch that crap. Not a single episode, ever.

But I will say I always had a thing for Jennifer Aniston.

[scotian]

If you ask a foreign girl where she learned English and she replies "from watching Friends", you should immediately next her, trust me.

[LovePotionNo.9]

(02-21-2016 05:43 AM)scotian Wrote:  

If you ask a foreign girl where she learned English and she replies "from watching Friends", you should immediately next her, trust me.

It's funny you say that since I later ended up telling a Ukrainian girl, who was obsessed with friends, that girls like her was the reason I left the States. Next!

[Pride male]

No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

[Zerdame]

Differing opinion here but I actually really enjoyed the series. I wasn't even born when the series debuted but I caught on to it while it was on syndication on one of the cable channels. I'm a sitcom person for the laughs and its harmless fun as long as you know how to filter out the SJW and the beta stuff. Whoever takes TV seriously is probably beta blue pill anyways.

About foreign girls loving the show, its true. My knowledge of the show watching it growing up has always been a good tool in hand whenever I gamed these girls. Its gold when you're gaming westernized Asians.

[The Beast1]

My biggest pet peeves with sitcoms are laugh tracks. I find them annoying, trite, and an insult to my intelligence.

I had the dishonor once of sitting in on a filming of a sitcom with a live studio audience. I never understood why everyone woud laugh at the bad jokes.

I don't need an audience to tell me when to laugh. Hilariously i also laughed by myself during that same taping. Sheep.

[presidentcarter]

Many Russians like Friends too. It's actually a big way that some of them learned English. Some even believe that's how Americans in NYC really live...dicking around in a nice apartment, not working much. Rainbows and unicorns.

[Matsufubu]

Is this the one where we don't like 'Friends'?