[Ruivinho]

Anyone else have problems with good looking girls who are into you, but who are just boring as fuck..

For example:
This girl on instagram started following me and after about 2 months she'd been liking every single photo i uploaded. I started liking all hers back as she was hot.

I figured i'd open her in the DM and see where we could go as she was hot.

Me: Hey! thanks for being a loyal fan to all my photos

Her: Hahaha they're geat

Me: Yours too! You were just in Oman right, interesting country. Your photos were cool, How did you like it?

Her: Yeah its suprisingly amazing! i loved it. Do you always travel cause i see you visit alot of places.

Me: I travel alot. I just came back to the UK from Rep dom a few days ago actually.

Her: How old are you?

Me: 19, you

Her: 18, whatsapp?

Me: add me +********, lets talk there.


So she seems interested right.. She's asked for my whatsapp so i must of peaked her interest.
Anyway move to Whatsapp and I try to open her up and find out more about her and what not.

Her: hey! this is ***** from instagam

Me: glad you found me! So, do you go univeristy or whats going on with you?

Her: yeah i go to **** uni,

Me: oh cool. i know a guy that goes to that univeristy actually.
(proceeded to write more asking what she was studying, how she liked that uni and where she would like to travel anywhere if she could right now.

Her: What are you planning to study at univeristy. (ignores all the questions i ask her above..)

Me: Probably business, accounting, economics, something like that..

Her: Oh thats interesting, but i imagined something else because you like travelling so much.

Me: Like what?

Her: Hahaha, i dont know but something more travelly
(whatever the fuck that means)

Me: So tell me what countries interest you that you'd like to travel to?

Her: idk haha id have to explore
(shit answer.. does she really not have anything that interests her)

Me: So how did you find my instagram?

Her: Saw a photo of yours and then found your profile. I love your photos, your shots are really good

Me: You have a great eye!

Her: Hahaha
("hahaha " is not a fucking response)

next day..
Me: So do you reckon you'll come visit London anytime soon?

Her: I'd love that! so hopefully.

Me: Its a pretty cool city, there is so much diversity in food so theres loads of choice if you're a foodie like me!

Her: thats awesome, I do love food haha!

Me: Hahaha good stuff!


I left the conversation here and she hasn't said anything more since,
Its about a week later and i was thinking of opening her and talking to her since she's hot and she seemed into me, but this is a conversation where I'm asking all the questions and her responses are predictable and boring to say the least.
I dont even know what I would get out of this girl. She lives abroad so I cant ask her out on a date or try and smash and dash her.. Come to the point where I'm not really sure what im getting out of wasting my time talking to her.

Its always the hot ones that boring as shit and have no personality, am i rite lads?

What do you guys do when trying to game a hottie, but only to find she's as boring as watching paint dry..

[Travesty]

Never base a person off the way they text.

If you have the motivation get her on Skype and talk to her on video chat.

If you're feeling it invite her to the UK eventually to show her around. She pays for the plane you let her stay for free or rent a hotel room or Airbnb if you live with family. Bring up the idea "maybe you can come visit me sometime" when you are very warm with her, see how she reacts. Only truly invite her after you are 95%+ certain you will be banging her constantly when she visits. This could take multiple Skype video chats and more texting to the point where the conversation is extremely flirty and she is saying how excited she is to come see you.

Even better if you can get her to take her clothes off on video chat or send naked pictures before she even visits. Don't push hard though she has to lead herself into it as well, let it happen naturally.

It is quite a bit of work - who knows maybe after the first video chat she is the coolest chick you ever talked to. Worth one 10 minute chat.

[NASA Test Pilot]

The fact that most women are boring and have very little to offer, other than their looks and being a biological receptacle, is something that you are going to revisit over and over. This is part of the reason why you focus on yourself. You are the one with value.

It would be interesting to know why an 18 year old girl was in Oman. If she has lots of pictures posted with expensive items (cars, planes, accessories) she was probably used (and abused) as a play toy by a wealthy gentleman there. She will be psychologically scarred in a short time if this is the case. If (and I think that this is a big if) she comes to visit you, expect to shell out pounds as she will probably want/need you to subsidize her trip. I regret to inform you that she most probably wants to use you and it would be cheaper to P2P in London. Next her and go approach others.

As a general theme, the hotties need a little more neging, but do not put them on a pedestal, game them like the others and if you are not interested, next them. You are the king of what you survey, what do you want your highness? If she is not what you want then next her now… or in the morning.

I find that there are 4 types of women in general:

1)Women who inspire me to accomplish my purpose,
2)Women who inspire me to romance.
3)Women who inspire me to sex.
4)Women who fail to inspire me.

Category 4 is a quick next. Category 3´s are ONS that may turn into FB´s if they produce more lift than drag. On rare occasions, they can move to category 2, Category 2´s are initially FB´s but have a stronger potential to be an LTR if she continuously proves herself. She has small amounts of drag and produces significantly more lift in your life. It is possible that a Category 2 can move to Category 1 if she continually proves her herself as an LTR and begins to inspire you as you live life. Category 1´s are the potentials for offspring (should you desire that) and a greater probability for a successful LTR. They produce mostly lift, but more importantly, almost no drag. Being able to continuously inspire is really where they get close to being able to produce a little bit of rainbow sauce for your royal banquet.

[GlobalMan]

She's 18. She's a kid. 18 y/o girls are not intellectual powerhouses. Especially hot ones. They don't need to be. You're asking for something that isn't reasonable.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Come to the point where I'm not really sure what im getting out of wasting my time talking to her.

You're not getting anything out of it. And since she lives far away, you were always wasting your time.

Now that you know that, move on to a girl that you can meet.

[travolta]

You cannot really tell if a girl is boring or not until after you've had sex with her. Bitches open up to you in different ways afters you've already fucked her. This thread is mental masturbation if you haven't fucked her already.

[Ruivinho]

(02-20-2016 04:23 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

She's 18. She's a kid. 18 y/o girls are not intellectual powerhouses. Especially hot ones. They don't need to be. You're asking for something that isn't reasonable.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Come to the point where I'm not really sure what im getting out of wasting my time talking to her.

You're not getting anything out of it. And since she lives far away, you were always wasting your time.

Now that you know that, move on to a girl that you can meet.

Pipelining?

[Ruivinho]

(02-20-2016 04:02 PM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  

The fact that most women are boring and have very little to offer, other than their looks and being a biological receptacle, is something that you are going to revisit over and over. This is part of the reason why you focus on yourself. You are the one with value.

It would be interesting to know why an 18 year old girl was in Oman. If she has lots of pictures posted with expensive items (cars, planes, accessories) she was probably used (and abused) as a play toy by a wealthy gentleman there. She will be psychologically scarred in a short time if this is the case. If (and I think that this is a big if) she comes to visit you, expect to shell out pounds as she will probably want/need you to subsidize her trip. I regret to inform you that she most probably wants to use you and it would be cheaper to P2P in London. Next her and go approach others.

As a general theme, the hotties need a little more neging, but do not put them on a pedestal, game them like the others and if you are not interested, next them. You are the king of what you survey, what do you want your highness? If she is not what you want then next her now… or in the morning.

I find that there are 4 types of women in general:

1)Women who inspire me to accomplish my purpose,
2)Women who inspire me to romance.
3)Women who inspire me to sex.
4)Women who fail to inspire me.

Category 4 is a quick next. Category 3´s are ONS that may turn into FB´s if they produce more lift than drag. On rare occasions, they can move to category 2, Category 2´s are initially FB´s but have a stronger potential to be an LTR if she continuously proves herself. She has small amounts of drag and produces significantly more lift in your life. It is possible that a Category 2 can move to Category 1 if she continually proves her herself as an LTR and begins to inspire you as you live life. Category 1´s are the potentials for offspring (should you desire that) and a greater probability for a successful LTR. They produce mostly lift, but more importantly, almost no drag. Being able to continuously inspire is really where they get close to being able to produce a little bit of rainbow sauce for your royal banquet.

She's just a rich christian arab girl, turns out her dad works high up for an Oman'i company thats why she was there. Just flashy hotel and shopping. Hardly "amazing".

Agreed though, the truth is women really do not offer much when it comes to interesting/intellectual conversation.

My main goal was to pipeline this girl as much as possible. But however pretty she is, I cant waste my time small talking with someone of low iq.

Those category 1's are hard to find, almost impossible in the western world.
I think they exist for sure, I've seen their type. working class background usually, big into family and strong catholic family background.

Most girls my age in western world cant even cook, nevermind clean..
I really struggle to see what all our beta counterparts of the westernworld see in these useless planks.
The average millennial western girl is more likely to be able to name every kardashian's birthday, than to be able to find her country on a world map!

[Cheetah]

OP,

it's not like your conversation was super fun either. At least she was kinda flirty.

What kind of conversation did you want? And why do you want fun or intellectual conversations from women?

Personally I judge women by their looks and their way of being sensual. I have other people for fun or interesting/intellectual conversations.

[eskimobobseal]

(02-20-2016 04:23 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

She's 18. She's a kid. 18 y/o girls are not intellectual powerhouses. Especially hot ones. They don't need to be. You're asking for something that isn't reasonable.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Come to the point where I'm not really sure what im getting out of wasting my time talking to her.

You're not getting anything out of it. And since she lives far away, you were always wasting your time.

Now that you know that, move on to a girl that you can meet.

This post is gold and 100% true. Most women are socially retarded let alone 18-year-old women, you have to REALLY lead the conversation and make it interesting yourself if you want to get anything of substance out of it.

[Vienna]

Ruivinho.

Your questions makes the interaction seem like an interview. You're also answering her questions rather directly. Have some fun with her questions. Rough scenario:

Quote:

Her: What are you planning to study at univeristy. (ignores all the questions i ask her above..)

Me: Probably business, accounting, economics, something like that.. so I can find the loopholes needed to streamline the global drug empire I'm inheriting from my dad"

Her: so that's why you travel so much??

Me: Yeah, but that's our secret. Can I trust you?

Engage her emotions. You don't have to give silly replies all the time, but they help in guiding the conversation to flirtier pastures.

[XXL]

It looks like very typical get to know you conversation full of questions and logical facts. If you want it to be more interesting you have to make it interesting and bring her fun side out of her. Girls don't usually do it first themselves they need to be led

[GlobalMan]

(02-20-2016 05:29 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 04:23 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

She's 18. She's a kid. 18 y/o girls are not intellectual powerhouses. Especially hot ones. They don't need to be. You're asking for something that isn't reasonable.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Come to the point where I'm not really sure what im getting out of wasting my time talking to her.

You're not getting anything out of it. And since she lives far away, you were always wasting your time.

Now that you know that, move on to a girl that you can meet.

Pipelining?

Were you planning to travel to where she lives and contacted her because of that? Was she planning to come to your area and thats why you contacted her? If not, it's not pipelining, it's just a time waster for you and an ego boost for her.

Sometimes there are long term strategies. But man, you're 19. Talk to girls that exist in your reality right outside your door. Talking to an instagram girl overseas isn't gaming- you're not risking anything, nor do you stand to gain anything from it most likely.

Look, it's not bad to talk to this chick, but you're going to be far better off focusing on girls that can get you immediate results and feedback, and help you learn.

Good luck.

[Zerdame]

Normally but not always, hot girls don't have to be intellectually stimulating because they already get attention without trying. I'll give you a reference- for guys, we have to learn game, up our dress code, go to the gym, improve our humour and do different things to better ourselves. Sometimes, this is a steep learning curve where you get rejected by many women and you slowly improve things about you through trial and error. A pretty girl doesn't need this. She doesn't need to learn to text well, she doesn't need to learn to be funny or interesting because lets face it, she's probably been getting attention all her life just by being hot.

Another example, the hottest Japanese women, about 80% of them don't speak any English. Why? Because they don't need to. Their lives are comfortable in Japan where all the beta men would get them whatever they want, they get free drinks at bars, free shopping when they go on dates with these men who wouldn't hesitate to throw money at them hoping to get something even as small as a kiss in return. They have no incentive to leave the country or date a foreigner thus no real reason to learn English. You can also imagine how fun conversations must be with these women.

Women who are hot are mostly boring similar to how men who are incredibly good looking normally don't have much game too. Because they don't need it. You might call it unfair but I hope we're all past being bitter with the world.

Get your head around it and do what you need to do.

[YossariansRight]

I'm going to echo what a few of the guys above have pointed out: She's an 18 y/o chick, she's not going to know much of anything.

And again, texting really should be for logistics only. Having conversations over texts (or emails) sucks. Texting/emailing is a way to communicate, not the way to communicate.

[WestIndianArchie]

Misleading title

Props on showing guys that you can pull chicks off of IG.

Your text game is horrible because you think like a regular guy not a player.

You want Intel or to be entertained, but that's not her job. Your goal is to take that seed of attraction and make it bloom. That's the part you don't get. If she was pulled in deeper, the real girl might reveal herself.

WIA

[RedPillUK]

Dude what do you mean "Hahaha " isn't a response?" Why are you so angry about that? That's exactly what I love about girls, their youth and playfulness, you should definitely NOT expect them to be your intellectual equal. The only girls who are more 'interesting' tend to be older, boring and non sexual ugh...

Anyway, that's a great response, all this shit means she likes you, which I guess you already have figured out.

If she likes you, then you can have A LOT more fun with the conversation. The way to do that is either bring in humour that makes you laugh and makes things interesting, or just gradually sexualise the conversation more and more. You'll be suprised what you can get away with, the reason you can though is because she likes you.

It's so boring the way you just ask her boring question after boring question, I'm suprised she's still talking to you after the university interview. I had to skim read through it, and even then I nearly clicked back on something else. I don't even bother with shit like that, I honestly don't care, so really I'm the one being my honest self and you're the one not being yourself. You're acting all interested in her boring uni shit and hoping she will also do the same to you, despite her probably not caring too much either.

That's the best way to dry up the pussy right there. Talking logically and rationally about subjects is how you talk to men, it gets so dull fast with girls. I realised that when I started doing better with foreign girls where we couldn't speak together so well, it actually made it easier for me, because we could only say very basic things to each other. So I've learnt to avoid anything even slightly intellectual 99% of the time.

[AneroidOcean]

Yep, your text game is poor and you didn't come across as interesting as others have said. Your PICTURES were interesting, your personality (at least as evidenced by your texting with her and your posts in this thread) is lacking some. A breakdown:

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Anyone else have problems with good looking girls who are into you, but who are just boring as fuck..

For example:
This girl on instagram started following me and after about 2 months she'd been liking every single photo i uploaded. I started liking all hers back as she was hot.

Would've been much better to like one or two occasional ones at MOST before DM'ing her. Even better would've been to make an interesting or funny or backhanded compliment type of comment and let her DM you.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

I figured i'd open her in the DM and see where we could go as she was hot.

Me: Hey! thanks for being a loyal fan to all my photos

Don't use exclamation marks unless it's absolutely RIVETING what you're getting across or truly exciting. An exclamation mark doesn't make "Hey" sound any more sexy, so stop doing it.

Why are you thanking her? You make it seem like a joke but you end it with a winking smiley face as if you really want her to know it's a joke. That's tryhard.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: Hahaha they're geat

You haven't fucked it up completely yet.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: Yours too! You were just in Oman right, interesting country. Your photos were cool, How did you like it?

Another unnecessary exclamation point and overuse of punctuation. You also asked a rhetorical question. Your actual question isn't interesting in the least bit. Here's an alternative that's not even good but in comparison follows the basic tenets of texting girls much closer:

"Yeah geat times, was Oman any good?"

Note that this is still a lot of words compared to hers (4 if you count either the contraction or the smiley as another word). Your response was nineteen words.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: Yeah its suprisingly amazing! i loved it. Do you always travel cause i see you visit alot of places.

This is good that she wrote a lot, she's still pretty interested. You're going to lose her with the interview style questioning though.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: I travel alot. I just came back to the UK from Rep dom a few days ago actually.

You fall into her frame by answering the question, but you don't even answer it in that interesting of a way. Why didn't you tell her about something cool that happened in the Rep dom?

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: How old are you?

Me: 19, you

Her: 18, whatsapp?

You must be decent looking as she initiated you to get whatsapp.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: add me +********, lets talk there.

Not sure why you told her to add you, that pretty much goes without saying. Wordy. Maybe you thought directing her would be a good idea?

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

So she seems interested right.. She's asked for my whatsapp so i must of peaked her interest.
Anyway move to Whatsapp and I try to open her up and find out more about her and what not.

Her: hey! this is ***** from instagam

Me: glad you found me! So, do you go univeristy or whats going on with you?

Again with the exclamation points. You started this whole thing with her chasing you, why are you acting as if you're so glad that she added you/messaged you on instagram as if you had to convince her and you're happy she decided to agree with you. YOU are the prize bud.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: yeah i go to **** uni,

Me: oh cool. i know a guy that goes to that univeristy actually.
(proceeded to write more asking what she was studying, how she liked that uni and where she would like to travel anywhere if she could right now.

Her: What are you planning to study at univeristy. (ignores all the questions i ask her above..)

You allowed the conversation to stick on boring topics and she decided to take the lead. She doesn't want to do this, but you didn't really leave her much choice.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: Probably business, accounting, economics, something like that..

Your response should've been something the least bit interesting. How interesting do you think business, accounting, and economics is to girls? How could you make these topics of study more interesting? I wouldn't concede to her frame, but even if you're going to answer the questions the following are a couple examples that are vastly less boring:

1. Business - I'll be the boss. I'm watching you

2. Accounting - I'm starting early with all this international currency, have you seen the *insert some random money that's cool which you can use as one of many things to bait her to meet up*

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: Oh thats interesting, but i imagined something else because you like travelling so much.

Me: Like what?

Her: Hahaha, i dont know but something more travelly
(whatever the fuck that means)

She has come to the realization that your pictures are VASTLY more interesting/exciting than you seem to be.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: So tell me what countries interest you that you'd like to travel to?

Her: idk haha id have to explore
(shit answer.. does she really not have anything that interests her)

Her answer is shit more because you have been much less boring and she is no longer chasing. Also, your question is boring as hell. How about, "If you had no restrictions where would you want to check out?" or "If you could be invisible in another country, which one would it be?"

Insert ANYTHING that could pique her interest or imagination as opposed to a boring interview style, DRY, question. Dry emphasized because that's what you're doing to her pussy.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: So how did you find my instagram?

Her: Saw a photo of yours and then found your profile. I love your photos, your shots are really good

Me: You have a great eye!

Her: Hahaha
("hahaha " is not a fucking response)

Again with the complimenting her. You were already pre-selected, why are you complimenting her and using yet another exclamation mark and smiley?

As others have pointed out, your haha is not a fucking response comment reeks of being passive-aggressive.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

next day..
Me: So do you reckon you'll come visit London anytime soon?

Don't say stuff like this. It's so very passive. I wouldn't even begin a sentence with "So" hardly ever. "Do you reckon" telegraphs timidness.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: I'd love that! so hopefully.

She gives you a lukewarm (barely) answer to your timid question.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: Its a pretty cool city, there is so much diversity in food so theres loads of choice if you're a foodie like me!

You complain about her being boring and then you tell her "Its a pretty cool city," get out of here with that nonsense. You are almost on the right track talking about food, but it should be how amazing the experience of the food is, not just that there's "diversity" in it. Diversity is not in and of itself a good thing.

A foodie? What kind of manly man calls himself a foodie outside of a high level chef? What are you trying to portray here? ANOTHER EXCLAMATION POINT DOESN'T MAKE YOU OR WHAT YOU SAY EXCITING, it just shows how boring you are without fabricated excitement.

That's what she's beginning to realize, that you're more fabricated than real.

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Her: thats awesome, I do love food haha!

She responds to your fabricated excitement with even more fabricated (fake) excitement and a completely generic confirmation that she loves food and fake amusement. Who doesn't love good food?

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

Me: Hahaha good stuff!

Earlier you were all passive aggressive about her response of "Hahaha " yet you end this conversation (sorry, I mean murder this great opportunity) by essentially saying the same thing. How is "good stuff!" any more insightful, intelligent, or meaningful than a smiley?

(02-20-2016 02:40 PM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

I left the conversation here and she hasn't said anything more since,
Its about a week later and i was thinking of opening her and talking to her since she's hot and she seemed into me, but this is a conversation where I'm asking all the questions and her responses are predictable and boring to say the least.
I dont even know what I would get out of this girl. She lives abroad so I cant ask her out on a date or try and smash and dash her.. Come to the point where I'm not really sure what im getting out of wasting my time talking to her.

Its always the hot ones that boring as shit and have no personality, am i rite lads?

What do you guys do when trying to game a hottie, but only to find she's as boring as watching paint dry..

If you're going to send her a response, tell her a VERY brief but intriguing beginning to an adventure/travel story that leaves her hanging. That inspires her imagination to run wild, to bring a sprinkle of moisture back between her legs.

Despite there being little chance, I think you'd make a huge step forward if you recognized how to address your own significant shortcomings in the realm of being interesting, holding frame, and running good text game.

You also are in the newbie forum, which is appropriate, but the rules of the forum apply and I highly recommend you read them. "am i rite" is text speak and while we condone it to some extent when texting girls, the forum rules forbid it as part of your conversation. Roosh and the mods do a great job of keeping this forum readable/useful, you should help them. Rule #1 is quoted below:

Quote:

1. Don't be a loser. Don't call someone an idiot, moron, or hater. Don't use condescending language such as "WTF are you talking about?" Don't use textspeak. Don't flood the forum with low value posts. Don't post someone's personal information. Don't be a drama queen. If you're not sure whether what you're about to do is bad etiquette, it's probably bad etiquette.

[Ruivinho]

(02-23-2016 09:14 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

You haven't fucked it up completely yet.

Damn man, you didnt hold back.
Props for shedding light on how horrible my text game is though i guess.

Shit, I got ALOT to learn.

[AneroidOcean]

(02-24-2016 08:40 AM)Ruivinho Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 09:14 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

You haven't fucked it up completely yet.

Damn man, you didnt hold back.
Props for shedding light on how horrible my text game is though i guess.

Shit, I got ALOT to learn.

Mature response to my criticism. It's definitely meant constructively and it's always important to keep in mind that there are always factors out of your control and that you should both not take them personally and also strive to improve those factors which are within your control, such as your text-messaging and how you react (or don't) to a girl's communication/behaviour.

I personally had a hard time putting together that you can be outgoing, excited, fun/silly in person (moreso than maybe your average guy with game) but that your texting still has to fall within the normal rules for the most part. I find that it's WAY better to convey excitement or something cool with an occasional cool picture and subdue the excited (which comes across as feminine with any significant use) parts of my texting. Also personally had to come to terms with the fact that less is more when you're dealing with women and texting as well as realizing that all the most powerful/successful/in demand people I've come into contact with by and large use as little words/punctuation as is necessary to get the point across even when they have the language knowledge to write flowery long-winded poetry or read the wall street journal.

There's a lot of information on the forum regarding texting and what works best. You have to tailor it to your personality somewhat as well as the situation/girl, but for the most part you'll never need to stray far outside of the guidelines. One thread I rather enjoy reading and occasionally contributing to when I think I can point out a flaw is the "What Should I Text Next" thread. There's a lot to be learned there and it can be pretty entertaining too:

thread-28919.html

[RedPillUK]

10/10 Breakdown of that text game.

When I was reading it, it actually made me realise something about why I don't actually have a relationship with a bunch of liberal guys I play in a band with. It's the insincere, exclamation mark thing you pointed out.

A lot of people are like this in real life as well, it's a weird form of politeness. You can never get past small talk with them because they are always talking like that.

For example:

'Oh Hey Red Pill! How are you? '

Yeah not bad, thanks.

That's great! So did you have a good time doing that thing you said you were going to do?'

'Yeah it was good..'

I kind of pick up on the fake happiness, and over excitement, and the conversation never goes anywhere as we can't relate to each other.

In the text conversation you're doing it, and she starts talking back in the 'insincerely happy and excited because I'm talking to a stranger' way you are.

"It's just how some people talk to a stranger I guess! You'll learn! "

[Delta]

Don't ever expect girls (hot or otherwise) to be funny, interesting, or insightful. Those that are are exceedingly rare.

Think of your interactions with women as though you're a magician performing on stage, and she's a random volunteer you brought up from the audience. You know the dynamic; the volunteer is always uncomfortable, guarded, and awkward. No one expects anything of the volunteer. It's the performer's job to be prepared, lead the interaction, and make it entertaining.

Yes it sucks that as men, we're the ones who have to put in orders of magnitude more effort to get what we want. It's just the current state of the sexual market. There's no fighting it.

[Pride male]

Sadly for most women, their pussy is all they have to offer.

[Guitarman]

You need to get off Instagram and crapchat and start approaching and opening hot girls for real.

What you are is just another one of her virtual orbiters that she attention whores off. Yes, and the Oman thing could very well mean "porta potty".