[perdogg]

Cultura in lutto, è morto lo scrittore Umberto Eco. Semiologo, docente universitario e autore di saggi e romanzi, tra cui il conosciutissimo “Il nome della Rosa” da cui fu tratto anche un film.

Aveva 84 anni.

http://www.lastampa.it/2016/02/20/cultur...agina.html

[Elster]

Well I guess it is the time in which the intelectuall heavy weights of our time are leaving way for the new,if there are any up and coming new heavy weights...

[Paracelsus]

Maybe now he can go ask Jesus personally whether he ever laughed in his lifetime.

[Teutatis]

I liked Foucoult's Pendulum and the Name of the Rose a lot, maybe it's time to reread them.

[Mage]

This man was a living classic and my favourite contemporary writer.

[Germanicus]

(02-20-2016 02:52 AM)Teutatis Wrote:  

I liked Foucoult's Pendulum and the Name of the Rose a lot, maybe it's time to reread them.

Modern classics. Head and shoulders above 99% of the junk published since 1965.

[Peregrine]

Only reason I know the name is because Taleb referenced him (at least) once. If I want to read his works, which should I start with?

[Rocha]

Though I liked "In the name of rose", he was a globalist, in his last interview to a Portuguese paper in April last year e said the following gem: "Europe colour will change, those who accept that are Ok, those who do not can go suicide themselves somewhere else. Every civilization had its end, the Germanic tribes that invaded Rome shaped Europe for the next centuries and now we are watching something similar. Europe has been a place with a lot of wars and massacres and hopefully onwards we can live in peace."

Original article: http://expresso.sapo.pt/internacional/20...1932-2016-

He will not be missed on my part.

[GillesDeleuze]

I agree with Rocha, here in Italy everybody talks about him as an extraordinary thinker and novelist, but he was also a member of the Aspen Institute (a European think tank ) and endorsed the concept of europe as a welcoming land for migrants

[Teutatis]

Dupe

[Teutatis]

(02-20-2016 01:19 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Though I liked "In the name of rose", he was a globalist, in his last interview to a Portuguese paper in April last year e said the following gem: "Europe colour will change, those who accept that are Ok, those who do not can go suicide themselves somewhere else. Every civilization had its end, the Germanic tribes that invaded Rome shaped Europe for the next centuries and now we are watching something similar. Europe has been a place with a lot of wars and massacres and hopefully onwards we can live in peace."

Original article: http://expresso.sapo.pt/internacional/20...1932-2016-

He will not be missed on my part.

I read the interview and I must admit I'm very disappointed, Rocha is right, he basically sides with globalists, he says Europeans that don't welcome the changes happening to their homelands are bad and racists, he says Europeans will disappear due to continuous influx of non Europeans, that the color of Europe will change and that's a good thing. This actually disturbed me.

I still like his books though, I never got the impression he welcomed the destruction of Europe like this. I actually thought European history and traditions were dear to him, I was wrong.

[Rocha]

Not a conspiracy therorist...but the similarities are stunning, both physical and ideological:

Umberto Eco

   

Martin Schulz

   

[debeguiled]

You may be right about his politics, but I love his writing.

This is my favorite quote from Foucault's Pendulum:

Quote:

There are four kinds of people in this world: cretins, fools, morons, and lunatics…

Cretins don’t even talk; they sort of slobber and stumble…

Fools are in great demand, especially on social occasions. They embarrass everyone but provide material for conversation…Fools don’t claim that cats bark, but they talk about cats when everyone else is talking about dogs. They offend all the rules of conversation, and when they really offend, they’re magnificent…

Morons never do the wrong thing. They get their reasoning wrong.

Like the fellow who says that all dogs are pets and all dogs bark, and cats are pets, too, therefore cats bark…

Morons will occasionally say something that’s right, but they say it for the wrong reason…

A lunatic is easily recognized. He is a moron who doesn’t know the ropes.

The moron proves his thesis; he has logic, however twisted it may be.

The lunatic on the other hand, doesn’t concern himself at all with logic; he works by short circuits. For him, everything proves everything else. The lunatic is all idée fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy.

You can tell him by the liberties he takes with common sense, by his flashes of inspiration, and by the fact that sooner or later he brings up the Templars…There are lunatics who don’t bring up the Templars, but those who do are the most insidious. At first they seem normal, then all of a sudden…”

A lunatic is easily recognized. He is a moron who doesn’t know the ropes.

I mean come on.

[debeguiled]

When I read Foucault's Pendulum, I treated it like the kind of joke book you have next to the toilet, that you pick up and read a bit here and there, rather than trying to get anything deep out of it. I got the feeling this was Eco's intention, like he was saying, see, we have spent all of our time learning these academic subjects, and ultimately they don't seem to mean anything, so let's at least have fun with them:

Quote:

Well, Diotallevi and I are planning a reform in higher education. A School of Comparative Irrelevance, where useless or impossibe courses are given. The school's aim is to turn out scholars capable of endlessly increasing the number of unnecessary subjects.

Quote:

You live on the surface," Lia told me years later. "You sometimes seem profound, but it's only because you piece a lot of surfaces together to create the impression of depth, solidity. That solidity would collapse if you try to stand it up.

[911]

The Prague Cemetery is basically a globalist propaganda exercise.

Based on his bibliography, which includes works like the translation of The Enigma of Hanau, a work on German kabbalist Heinrich Khunrath, Eco was a leading pusher of globalist theology.

Burn in hell, amici.