[El Chinito loco]

(06-18-2016 10:49 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Guy mentioned how the bang "numbers" are not that important though you still need the "#s" to get a better understanding of women and how to deal with them long-term if you decide to make the commitment. Kind of goes along with what you're saying.

People by nature are inclined to desire that long-term partner. As some people like myself get entrenched with other obstacles, goals, pains, and failures outside of dating, the pursuit of a long-term partner gets put on the shelf; another consequence is taking the bullshit of dating less personally being preoccupied with so many other issues.

When I have that spare time in the near future, it's back to serial dating habits with silent warning signals of "buyer beware" yet again...

As time goes on what i've noticed is that personally I really do prefer better personalities and girls with above average integrity these days over looks alone. There's definitely an absolute floor when it comes to looks though.. i'm not going to bang some <6 fatty or troll with a heart of gold. Girls with what I consider "ghetto" personality qualities from all different class demographics or general classless behavior just annoy me a lot more than it did when I was a bit younger. I used to overlook these things in order to get laid.

The general experience I have is that the more ghetto girls like this you have around you the more it drags down your quality of life overall. More drama, more low class behavior, more shady bullshit.

Birds of a feather flock together and all that..

However the sweet spot in asia seems to be with middle class girls around the 6-7 range for solid rotation or even LTR material.

[jj90]

Guys, at this point this thread over the last page or so validates the fact that each Asian ethnicity thinks they are the best. No surprise there.

But why the debate? Who really cares? I tell girls whatever I need to tell him to get them to fuck. That could be Korean, Spanish, Martian whatever.

This is simple sales guys. You don't tell the customer what they need to hear, you tell them what they want to hear. Most girls already have a preconceived notion of something they are looking for, just force feed them with it.

[Brosemite]

(06-18-2016 07:18 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

As time goes on what i've noticed is that personally I really do prefer better personalities and girls with above average integrity these days over looks alone. There's definitely an absolute floor when it comes to looks though.. i'm not going to bang some <6 fatty or troll with a heart of gold. Girls with what I consider "ghetto" personality qualities from all different class demographics or general classless behavior just annoy me a lot more than it did when I was a bit younger. I used to overlook these things in order to get laid.

Stepping out of your comfort zone & playing the #s dating game gives you a good calibration of different female tendencies. You're absolutely right in that it ALSO helps one calibrate his own long-term preferences sure to fluctuate with each passing gal. The same can also be said about making new types of friends.

(06-18-2016 07:18 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

The general experience I have is that the more ghetto girls like this you have around you the more it drags down your quality of life overall. More drama, more low class behavior, more shady bullshit.

Birds of a feather flock together and all that..

As they say, you're an average of the 5 people closest to you....whether you know it or not

[Cattle Rustler]

While being Korean can get you bonus point, it's not the "end all" or unique thing that will let you get laid. It's like game, it helps but it's not definite.

You still need game and look decent.

Why doesn't Kim Jong Un pull all the hoes? The nigga runs an entire country, has trains, planes, and a S-Class Benz fleet at his disposal while being Korean......how come the hoes aren't throwing themselves at him?

[Putin Closes]

(06-18-2016 08:11 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 06:29 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

Again the general population in China does not like Korea and vice versa.

Actually saying your Chinese is what gets you laid with the upper middle class Chinese in pretty much every SEA country including Thailand and puts you at a huge advantage. The problem is you probably could never pull it off unless you speak fluent mandarin.

This is due to Chinese customs putting HUGE pressure on girls to date only other Chinese.

I'm sure any forum member who's been to Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia can agree that the stunners are pretty much stick with their own.

Using a straw man argument of one girl who likes Korean K-Pop is like me banging a hot blonde in Scandinavia and thinking all girls must like Asians. No that girl happens to have yellow fever.

You'll always have niches of girls that like a certain type of guy. In general, being Korean is not a DHV, actually you'll find they have a bad rep in the Philippines (minus the K-pop fan girls). True you'll get your a few small biz owners but the real money is all controlled by Chinese Filipinos & Mestizos with Spanish blood.

Seeing how you lived in Korea, of course your view is going to be biased. Any foreign girl living in Korea is because she likes Korean culture.

Now you could be right about "true" locals having K-pop fever, but these girls are usually less attractive to being with and attracted to any foreign national.

I haven't been to China but the majority of Chinese I've met in Korea, USA, etc have been into it

And yea, the girls you're talking about... rich / "hi-so" girls are generally gonna stick to their own wherever you are - Korea, China, etc.

I'm talking about the majority of the population

For example, when I went to Thailand, literally was getting IOI from 80% of the general population, and even girls I would consider 9+ aka generally out of my league

I could go on and on about this Korean phenomenon but no one wants to believe it

ABCs and Chinese who live in Korea. That's not all of Asia.

The Chinese form the backbone of that upper middle class, there are stereotypes formed and a +1 in eyes of the general locals, primarily due to association with wealth and lighter skin. Next time you're in Thailand, look at the billboard or TV, guaranteed the light skinned model has Chinese or European blood.

What you're saying being Chinese is a DLV is completely false, and I suspect if you live in any 3rd world SEA country you'll quickly realize what I am stating.
Learning Mandarin ultimately can land you some very high quality "regular" girls instead of some K-Pop niche fan girl.

[whiteknightrises]

(06-19-2016 02:04 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 08:11 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 06:29 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

Again the general population in China does not like Korea and vice versa.

Actually saying your Chinese is what gets you laid with the upper middle class Chinese in pretty much every SEA country including Thailand and puts you at a huge advantage. The problem is you probably could never pull it off unless you speak fluent mandarin.

This is due to Chinese customs putting HUGE pressure on girls to date only other Chinese.

I'm sure any forum member who's been to Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia can agree that the stunners are pretty much stick with their own.

Using a straw man argument of one girl who likes Korean K-Pop is like me banging a hot blonde in Scandinavia and thinking all girls must like Asians. No that girl happens to have yellow fever.

You'll always have niches of girls that like a certain type of guy. In general, being Korean is not a DHV, actually you'll find they have a bad rep in the Philippines (minus the K-pop fan girls). True you'll get your a few small biz owners but the real money is all controlled by Chinese Filipinos & Mestizos with Spanish blood.

Seeing how you lived in Korea, of course your view is going to be biased. Any foreign girl living in Korea is because she likes Korean culture.

Now you could be right about "true" locals having K-pop fever, but these girls are usually less attractive to being with and attracted to any foreign national.

I haven't been to China but the majority of Chinese I've met in Korea, USA, etc have been into it

And yea, the girls you're talking about... rich / "hi-so" girls are generally gonna stick to their own wherever you are - Korea, China, etc.

I'm talking about the majority of the population

For example, when I went to Thailand, literally was getting IOI from 80% of the general population, and even girls I would consider 9+ aka generally out of my league

I could go on and on about this Korean phenomenon but no one wants to believe it

ABCs and Chinese who live in Korea. That's not all of Asia.

The Chinese form the backbone of that upper middle class, there are stereotypes formed and a +1 in eyes of the general locals, primarily due to association with wealth and lighter skin. Next time you're in Thailand, look at the billboard or TV, guaranteed the light skinned model has Chinese or European blood.

What you're saying being Chinese is a DLV is completely false, and I suspect if you live in any 3rd world SEA country you'll quickly realize what I am stating.
Learning Mandarin ultimately can land you some very high quality "regular" girls instead of some K-Pop niche fan girl.

Only reason I'm responding is cuz I don't want people to read this and get the wrong info

The Chinese chick from USA - was a Chinese fob

When I was in Thailand, the first time I rode the BTS (their metro I guess) the entire train was a Korean food ad

Huge ad on the side of a big mall was a Korean guy

I walked by some place called "Korean education center" with events like "Korean culture supporter ceremony"

I have pics of all of this and can post upon request

You didn't read what I even posted. I said 80% of the general population aka not just weird K-pop fangirls (but I'm also good looking and know what I'm doing)

Don't see what you believe, believe what you see.

[Putin Closes]

Wrong info? I suspect its coming from you. Clearly you've never lived in a SEA country and base your assumptions with selective observations confirming your bias. Then extrapolate that bias to ridiculous proportions. Really a Korean Food Ad to prove your point?

So you decide to take pictures of anything Korean? You might want to take your own advice about confirmation bias.

The king is partly Chinese. Almost every single Prime Minister has some Chinese blood. The upper elite is Chinese. Almost all the models you see are Chinese. The sexiest girls I've banged have Chinese blood.

Again though, you probably never matched with the vast majority of Chinese girls via online or met them through social interactions because you're not Chinese. Although Thailand has probably the most integrated of all Chinese populations in SEA.

So you only have your own experiences to judge off. I'm telling you, you're completely off point and posting misleading advice here. I've lived in the Philippines long enough to know your spewing nonsense.

[Brosemite]

(06-18-2016 07:18 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

However the sweet spot in asia seems to be with middle class girls around the 6-7 range for solid rotation or even LTR material.

This seems to apply in many parts of the world outside of Asia too...within the US..Brazil..and it can be so hard being loyal to that range of gal when there is so much temptation around....There is a really very pretty dentist gal I hung out with down in Brazil; I'd say she's the most qualified to be the best LTR wife/mother of my kids. With all the talent around us in the "stop the presses hot" category, it'd be hard for me to stay faithful

(06-18-2016 08:57 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

While being Korean can get you bonus point, it's not the "end all" or unique thing that will let you get laid. It's like game, it helps but it's not definite.

You still need game and look decent.

Why doesn't Kim Jong Un pull all the hoes? The nigga runs an entire country, has trains, planes, and a S-Class Benz fleet at his disposal while being Korean......how come the hoes aren't throwing themselves at him?

It's funny you mention this. Went to Dal Dong Nae, which is a highly rated Korean soul food type restaurant on our home turf in Dallas....(we should go sometime nigga). One observation I had about the Korea town area is how well-groomed & stylish these K-dudes are #nohomo.

While Viet and Filipino dudes are "not that high on Asian dating totem pole in Asia," they definitely do outperform Korean guys in Dallas/Ft. Worth. This is regards to dating chicks within their own ethnicity, other Asians, and Whites/Latinas. Most Korean dudes in DFW seem to stick within their own groups & LTR their own chicks. Every now and then, they'll try game on girls of other ethnicities without much success though.

The Filipinos and Viets in Dallas/Ft. Worth that do not LTR typically go out & try to bang as many chicks as possible. They typically have more success despite not being as well-dressed as the Korean guys. Then again..they're really not as stubborn from a cultural standpoint & just let it rip. The semi-alpha ghetto charisma of these dudes is quite appealing to white chicks in the South. They're definitely more dedicated to the trial/error process of game whereas the more reserved K guys seem to be scared of "perceived failure" & things not possibly going their way.

If K-Dudes in DFW took themselves less seriously at times, loosened up, and swallowed their pride, they could definitely do much better here; chicks are definitely curious & interested in them

[Joeno]

Whiteknightrises: got no problem with Koreans but it's pretty clear the whole self-promotion game you're trying to play. Yes yes Koreans are the best. Numero uno Asian. Saying "it's not game, it's not individual looks, it's cause im Korean" is the definition of assuming ethnic superiority.

Well partly you're right. There's a reason why SK has the most cultural sway and NK has the least. Might have to do with you guys trying to be the most white. Sorry but if we're talking "truth" then that is also a truth in addition to the kpop phenomenon that no one is going to deny.

One could make the same statement that white people do well in Asia overall. And so happens South Koreans try to emulate whites the most - Christianity religion, whitest skin looks, strongest US ties (or obsequeince). Maybe you should look at it in that light rather than repeating the chant "Korea is best. Kpop forever". Because surely the Korean media doesn't follow behind you during a date showering praises.

Also if you want the "truth" - I don't believe it - but in studies of penis around the world South Koreans were found to have the smallest. So if you want to play the whole inter-ethnic superiority game prepare to face some unflattering truths.

[El Chinito loco]

[jjk]

(06-19-2016 06:28 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Whiteknightrises: got no problem with Koreans but it's pretty clear the whole self-promotion game you're trying to play. Yes yes Koreans are the best. Numero uno Asian. Saying "it's not game, it's not individual looks, it's cause im Korean" is the definition of assuming ethnic superiority.

Well partly you're right. There's a reason why SK has the most cultural sway and NK has the least. Might have to do with you guys trying to be the most white. Sorry but if we're talking "truth" then that is also a truth in addition to the kpop phenomenon that no one is going to deny.

One could make the same statement that white people do well in Asia overall. And so happens South Koreans try to emulate whites the most - Christianity religion, whitest skin looks, strongest US ties (or obsequeince). Maybe you should look at it in that light rather than repeating the chant "Korea is best. Kpop forever". Because surely the Korean media doesn't follow behind you during a date showering praises.

Also if you want the "truth" - I don't believe it - but in studies of penis around the world South Koreans were found to have the smallest. So if you want to play the whole inter-ethnic superiority game prepare to face some unflattering truths.

Acknowledging the fact that Koreans have it slightly easier compared to other ethnicities is not promoting ethnic superiority. Just like how acknowledging the existence of the "white god factor" is not promoting white superiority. It is simply acknowledging facts and the way the world works at this moment.

For example, if you're a white passing Turk or brown guy in Thailand, then it might be easier to just say that you're Western European if you're trying to get laid. There are several non-Korean posters in this thread who have used this information to their advantage. Complaining about all of this just makes you look insecure and salty especially when you bring up penis sizes (which ironically is a very white thing to do).

Its a massive stretch to say that SK's success is based on emulating whites. SK has more cultural sway than NK because its a wealthy country with a good image and strong cultural exports. NK is an extremely poor country with a terrible image full of poverty and warmongering with zero cultural exports.

Christianity in Korea has nothing to do with wanting to be white. Christianity is big in Korea because during the Japanese occupation, churches were one of the only places where the Japanese had limited access and control. Many independence movements spawned out of these churches and eventually Christianity was associated with the resistance movement. Buddhism in Korea was also heavily modified by the Japanese during occupation so after the Japanese left, you had the choice of following the evil Japanese influenced religion or the religion thats associated with independence and freedom.

Either way, that theory is just retarded considering Korea is a secular state and the majority of Koreans are non-religious. Also the Philippines is much more Christian/Catholic and way more westernized than Korea yet Filipinos face an uphill battle in most Asian countries.

[Brosemite]

^ Catholicism is very prevalent in Vietnam; Christian denominations too in Taiwan.

I guess that makes them ashamed of being Asian right?

[whiteknightrises]

(06-19-2016 06:28 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Whiteknightrises: got no problem with Koreans but it's pretty clear the whole self-promotion game you're trying to play. Yes yes Koreans are the best. Numero uno Asian. Saying "it's not game, it's not individual looks, it's cause im Korean" is the definition of assuming ethnic superiority.

Well partly you're right. There's a reason why SK has the most cultural sway and NK has the least. Might have to do with you guys trying to be the most white. Sorry but if we're talking "truth" then that is also a truth in addition to the kpop phenomenon that no one is going to deny.

One could make the same statement that white people do well in Asia overall. And so happens South Koreans try to emulate whites the most - Christianity religion, whitest skin looks, strongest US ties (or obsequeince). Maybe you should look at it in that light rather than repeating the chant "Korea is best. Kpop forever". Because surely the Korean media doesn't follow behind you during a date showering praises.

Also if you want the "truth" - I don't believe it - but in studies of penis around the world South Koreans were found to have the smallest. So if you want to play the whole inter-ethnic superiority game prepare to face some unflattering truths.

[Jack Of All Trades]

You guys have to get over being Korean man, the factor helps but it's not something you can just show up to be a place, be korean and have hotties swarming you. It also depends on how you look like too, I have 2 korean friends, one's average and the other is a pretty boy who could potentially be in a kpop video. Guess who got the most of being korean when they went to thailand?

Being or looking korean is just another piece of equipment in your toolbox to use, It comes with good and bad aspects just like being white in SEA. Honestly, as long as your east asian in SEA, these people can't tell the difference; so you can literally be whoever you want to be. If you carry yourself a certain way you can be anything.

I always thought asian people could tell the difference between each other, man I was flat out wrong. I've been mistaken for being korean or japanese the most, when I'm neither.

Here's a question for the guys:
Is wearing glasses an issue with girls? In the west your considered nerdy or smart with glasses, but when I went to the philippines none of the girls had that perception. I have bad eyes and wear hipster glasses with thick lenses.

Also, did anyone get crazy reactions from meeting girls when speaking to them in english? I used some language exchange websites and apps to try and meet chinese girls. When I spoke to them in english they were like wow, never speak to me again in your broken chinese, I want to hear you talk in english.

[Zerdame]

I think the easiest way to explain the Korean card is the Asian version of the WGF. Latinos are often seen or introduced as white in Asia because 1. Some Asians can't tell the difference 2. There is a known advantage to be seen as white in certain countries. While WGF works well in certain countries(eg. Phil), it's not as effective in other Asian countries(eg. HK) that's what the Korean thing is isn't it? It works well in certain countries and not so much in some. Those who say being Korean is the ONLY thing you need without other factors of game is kidding themselves. On the other hand, it is also dillusional to say that being Korean/saying you're Korean gives you absolutely NO advantages. Just like WGF, we laugh at dillusional white men who think they can go to Asia and have a flock of 8s just because they're white, we also acknowledge that WGF is real and work well in certain areas.

I'm typing this on my phone since I'm on vacation so sorry for the typos if any.

[Putin Closes]

(06-20-2016 03:27 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

I think the easiest way to explain the Korean card is the Asian version of the WGF. Latinos are often seen or introduced as white in Asia because 1. Some Asians can't tell the difference 2. There is a known advantage to be seen as white in certain countries. While WGF works well in certain countries(eg. Phil), it's not as effective in other Asian countries(eg. HK) that's what the Korean thing is isn't it? It works well in certain countries and not so much in some. Those who say being Korean is the ONLY thing you need without other factors of game is kidding themselves. On the other hand, it is also dillusional to say that being Korean/saying you're Korean gives you absolutely NO advantages. Just like WGF, we laugh at dillusional white men who think they can go to Asia and have a flock of 8s just because they're white, we also acknowledge that WGF is real and work well in certain areas.

I'm typing this on my phone since I'm on vacation so sorry for the typos if any.

There is no Korean God Factor. Lets be real here. Who here outside of this thread has ever known its advantage to be Korean when gaming girls. None. Its quite well known that many Asian cultures hate the Koreans and vice versa. Which is why our Korean homer keeps spewing his stuff.

There is however a noticeable pale skin factor, this is widely documented. Colorism is a big part of SEA culture. So who benefits? Anyone with lighter skin predominantly Chinese, Korean, Japanese + of course Caucasians. So yes you can argue there is a WGF, but not racial based, we are talking about the actual skin tone. Now being lighter toned will give you a +1, what other factors come into play?

Social-economical and race based. Back to my previous point, the Chinese are associated with disproportionate wealth and power in pretty much every single SEA country.

Philippines is a great example of this. When you talk to a random cab driver about the Chinese, they usually associate it immediately with business and money. After all Henry Sy seems to own half the country here. You talk to cab driver about Koreans, more known for whore mongering because simply there's not much history compared to the Chinese. Not surprisingly, most local 7.5s and above have some Chinese or Spanish blood here in the Philippines. In other countries with even less European influence it be hard to find a 7.5+ without some Chinese blood.

Intra-race dating is strictly frowned on, and girls are known to be completely shunned out for marrying someone not Chinese.

Now you might get lucky and bang a few on tinder looking to explore, but for serious dating, your chances are slim to none. Be wise if you can pass off as Chinese to learn Mandarin, I'd suspect it would tremendously up your game. All in all this is all meaningless if your here for short term as those 7.5+ are not going to be banging you at your apartment in the Gramercy.

Remember though, our standards can differ from local standards, so your 7.5 may be a dark skinned girl in Cebu, but is a local 6.

[Phoenix]

(06-18-2016 08:57 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Why doesn't Kim Jong Un pull all the hoes? The nigga runs an entire country, has trains, planes, and a S-Class Benz fleet at his disposal while being Korean......how come the hoes aren't throwing themselves at him?

Sorry, bro, guess it's true. There's no hope for us non-Koreans.

[rungoodinc]

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You talk to cab driver about Koreans, more known for whore mongering because simply there's not much history compared to the Chinese.

Um, yeah, because talking to a middle-aged cab driver is a great way of knowing what girls in their 20s are attracted to.

You may have lived in Philippines but your post shows that you're pretty out of touch when it comes to Asian culture and current trends.

It's stupid to focus on race, period, but if we're gonna go there, it's clear that K guys have the biggest advantage among the Asian races. Chinese guys are known for being stable and good providers while Japanese guys are somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, Chinese has more history, but you're focusing on the wrong things. Pop culture and social trends have a much more important impact on what attracts girls than economic power and national history, although your theory might hold more weight in a third-world country like the Phils.

This past trip to Korea I've seen a ton of decent white girls (7s and even a few 8s) with Korean guys. This wasn't the case even a few years ago.

Girls from all Asian countries (and the Philippines) watch Korean dramas or listen to K-pop. You can't say this for any other Asian country.

Also, all of my Korean friends have always told me how much comments they get when they go to SEA countries. Even Japanese/Chinese chicks love Korean guys, one time I met a Japanese girl who was studying abroad in Korea and I asked her why she was studying there and she said "because I like Korean guys."

I'm not Korean so I have no interest in this topic. If anything I think it's annoying how K guys get an extra bump because of their race, knowing that a lot of them do not fit the image in the dramas and movies at all.

However, it's just a fact that K guys have the biggest advantage on average (in Asia), and saying anything other than that shows that you don't know much about Asian culture aside from the bubble you're in.

As for my own experience, I've had extended stays in Taipei, Beijing, and Seoul and met girls from pretty much every Asian country out there. So I do think I am qualified to comment on this topic.

[HOD]

(06-23-2016 03:27 AM)rungoodinc Wrote:  

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You talk to cab driver about Koreans, more known for whore mongering because simply there's not much history compared to the Chinese.

This past trip to Korea I've seen a ton of decent white girls (7s and even a few 8s) with Korean guys. This wasn't the case even a few years ago.

Girls from all Asian countries (and the Philippines) watch Korean dramas or listen to K-pop.


I'm not Korean so I have no interest in this topic. If anything I think it's annoying how K guys get an extra bump because of their race, knowing that a lot of them do not fit the image in the dramas and movies at all.

However, it's just a fact that K guys have the biggest advantage on average (in Asia), and saying anything other than that shows that you don't know much about Asian culture aside from the bubble you're in.

As for my own experience, I've had extended stays in Taipei, Beijing, and Seoul and met girls from pretty much every Asian country out there. So I do think I am qualified to comment on this topic.

Right on.

Its a media phenomenon. Has no-then to do with race. It has to do with culture.

Just like western media.

Just like hip hop.

Most hot young girls in the west love Justin Bieber. Just live with it.

I hate the bieber, but hot girls love him. Thats the truth. He owns the 16-24 market in the Western world

G-Dragon is top on most Asian girls and white girls mind, in term of Asia and the Asian media.

The media machine has chosen its pussy kings.

I'm Chinese, I'm just watching this phenomenon. It just proves to me how powerful the media is.

I'm currently dating a Korean girl, she loves G dragon, before that I dated a Russian Girl she loved G dragon, before that a Chinese Girl, she loved G dragon and before that a British Girl in HK, she love G dragon.

That doesn't mean Chinese dudes are out, the only reason I know about G dragon, is through all my different girlfriends

[Putin Closes]

(06-23-2016 03:27 AM)rungoodinc Wrote:  

Quote:

You talk to cab driver about Koreans, more known for whore mongering because simply there's not much history compared to the Chinese.

Um, yeah, because talking to a middle-aged cab driver is a great way of knowing what girls in their 20s are attracted to.

You may have lived in Philippines but your post shows that you're pretty out of touch when it comes to Asian culture and current trends.

It's stupid to focus on race, period, but if we're gonna go there, it's clear that K guys have the biggest advantage among the Asian races. Chinese guys are known for being stable and good providers while Japanese guys are somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, Chinese has more history, but you're focusing on the wrong things. Pop culture and social trends have a much more important impact on what attracts girls than economic power and national history, although your theory might hold more weight in a third-world country like the Phils.

This past trip to Korea I've seen a ton of decent white girls (7s and even a few 8s) with Korean guys. This wasn't the case even a few years ago.

Girls from all Asian countries (and the Philippines) watch Korean dramas or listen to K-pop. You can't say this for any other Asian country.

Also, all of my Korean friends have always told me how much comments they get when they go to SEA countries. Even Japanese/Chinese chicks love Korean guys, one time I met a Japanese girl who was studying abroad in Korea and I asked her why she was studying there and she said "because I like Korean guys."

I'm not Korean so I have no interest in this topic. If anything I think it's annoying how K guys get an extra bump because of their race, knowing that a lot of them do not fit the image in the dramas and movies at all.

However, it's just a fact that K guys have the biggest advantage on average (in Asia), and saying anything other than that shows that you don't know much about Asian culture aside from the bubble you're in.

As for my own experience, I've had extended stays in Taipei, Beijing, and Seoul and met girls from pretty much every Asian country out there. So I do think I am qualified to comment on this topic.

And you can go to Shanghai and find stunning white girls with Chinese guys. Whats your point? So you meet girls who like Korean guys who live in Korea? Isn't that obvious.

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one time I met a Japanese girl who was studying abroad in Korea and I asked her why she was studying there and she said "because I like Korean guys."

Exactly my point once again. Niche girls for niche game.

Are you saying the average girl in Beijing or Taipei is going to put a Korean guy +1. Zero chance. The idea that the average filipina or mainlander watches K-Pop is laughable considering they love their Telenovas here and the mainlanders love their Chinese drama shows.

And yes, I am basing it off living in a 3rd world country like the Phils and other SEA countries. Cause this is Asia we are talking about, not Korea.

Again failing to get back to my point that most 7.5-8+ in SEA countries have Chinese blood, its no advantage to be Korean. I may concede for the your average 6, sure Korean guys get more notice, but that's because they are PALE more then the fact they are Korean. How would a girl on the street know a guy is Korean vs Japanese vs Chinese.

Also Korean guys are definitely known here to whore monger and sponsor, this is common knowledge in the Phil. This is not just one cab driver, this is with multiple conversation along a wide spectrum of people. Hell, this one old white guy I talked to in my complex complained how the Koreans were driving the prices up.

I wouldn't be surprised if a sponsor situation was the same in South Korea. I am sure its happening a lot in Shanghai and Hong Kong.

FYI there is no "Asian" culture as each region has their own tradition and values. What you may define as Asian culture is based off your limited experience and time in a certain area. I am sure Jay Chau is much more well known then G-Dragon, in certain areas and vice versa.

To make it very simple this is what I consider a general scale, feel free to correct me.

3rd World:

SEA (Myammar, Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand, etc.) - Pale skin +1 (Chinese/Korean/Japanese/White)

More developed:

China -1 if you dont speak Mandarin
Hong Kong -2 if you speak Mandarin (they hate the "locusts"), +1 if you're a local
Singapore - Widely diverse, hard to say, depends on niche you are targetting
Japan -1.5 if you don't speak Japanese
Korea -2 if you don't speak Korean
Taiwan -1.5 if you don't speak Mandarin

Important caveat we are talking about average girl on the street, not your tinder / club niche girl.

[rungoodinc]

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The idea that the average filipina or mainlander watches K-Pop is laughable considering they love their Telenovas here and the mainlanders love their Chinese drama shows.

I dunno man, I'd say the majority of Chinese and Taiwanese chicks I've met have watched some K dramas before. Pretty much every Asian-American chick (not that this matters but just showing the reach of the media culture) has watched K dramas, but you can't say the same thing when it comes to non-Chinese watching Chinese dramas/pop culture.

There is some truth to what you are saying.. yes it's true that the Chinese in SEA countries are going to pull the high-society girls, but that's because they themselves are hi-so in these countries and typically meet these chicks through social circle and whatnot.

Unless you are some hi-so Chinese-Indo or Chinese-Malaysian guy with tons of local connects, money and social status, what you are saying is not true. As an Asian guy traveling to a random Asian country to pick up chicks, looking Korean will get you the most mileage by far and it's not even close.

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sure Korean guys get more notice, but that's because they are PALE more then the fact they are Korean. How would a girl on the street know a guy is Korean vs Japanese vs Chinese.

Are you kidding me? For Asian people, it's quite easy to tell between Korean, Chinese and Japanese guys based on fashion/style and facial features. Especially fashion and style. This is an absurd statement.

[Putin Closes]

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For Asian people, it's quite easy to tell between Korean, Chinese and Japanese guys based on fashion/style and facial features. Especially fashion and style. This is an absurd statement.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your background? You sound like a white guy who has banged some chicks and had some convos with cab drivers in SEA and thinks he understands Asian culture as a result.

Again there is no "asian" people or "asian" culture. Your average Filipino couldn't tell the difference Chinese, Japanese, Korean. Nor your average Malay or Indo.

Of course if you are living in a country full of korean, chinese, or japanese they stand out like a sore thumb.

[El Chinito loco]

This conversation about the korean status bump is completely gay.

Can we drop it already and move on. It's like black people arguing about who is high yellow or not in the hood. Everyone just sounds like a total faggot after awhile.

I have lived all over asia for years now. It only matters if you fit the image. Just being korean and looking or acting like a retard won't do anything for you. If you're a short little Kim Jong Un stump it won't matter. If you slurp your noodles and act like a rude dickweed it won't matter.

The basics...ie.decent looking and being well dressed is important.

Social circle is (above all else) the most important on top of that.

[Brosemite]

^ I'm actually learning quite a bit about the social tiers of Asian societies from this argument. I can't say one is completely right and other totally wrong. Everybody is right in a sense.....proceed gentlemen...

[IDrinkYourMilkShake]

(06-20-2016 05:38 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

There is no Korean God Factor. Lets be real here. Who here outside of this thread has ever known its advantage to be Korean when gaming girls. None. Its quite well known that many Asian cultures hate the Koreans and vice versa. Which is why our Korean homer keeps spewing his stuff.

So if I write my experiences here it doesnt count anymore? Since im then no longer 'outside' of this thread??

I have been riding the hallyu-wave for over four years now, when it comes to get girls. And it most certainly works! During this time big changes has occurred, and I have travelled around the world and seen it. Im talking about a shift in favour for asian guys in general, but where koreans has a slight advantage. Since this is the thread for asian guys in Asia, im gonna keep to my experience in that continent, but with a slight summary of the rest of the world at the end.

Im not gonna try to convince Putin Closes since it seems like he is immune against anyones opinion that doesnt match with his, and that anyones first hand experience with the KGF (lol what a name) doesnt matter since the chinese have it better anyway. Basicly just arguing against it for the sake of being against it.

During this shift where the hallyu-wave have exploded globaly, there has been two groups of non-korean asian guys in the west. The ones that celebrate this and use it to their advantage (just like the user HOD here) and there is the butthurt haters who cant take that its not their own ethnicity that is in the spotlight atm. This is also a quite young phenomenon which might explaine why some people are so skeptical against its existence, since if you arnt following the latest trends its easy to dont notice it by the western mainstream culture (except Gangnam Styile).

Back to Asia.

Lets be clear, if you are NE asian you will have a, general, advantage going to SEA, and if you are going to NEA being western-asian can be an advantage if you play your cards right. Come to think of it, being western-asian works pretty well in SEA as well. In the Philippines and Thailand I have had random girls shout: "Anyonghaseyo!" to me, or "Oppa! Sarangheyo!", giggling groups comming up to me asking, where im from and when I asnwer 'Korea', they go: "Omg! I love Korea!". And this is not in some sleezy bars or red light districts at night, im talking about day time in markets, malls, cafes, near universities, guest houses. Only times it happend at night it was in the clubs. First time in Thailand my white buddy wondered how come I got students, waitresses comming up to me and he only got goldiggers and hookers lol. Random teenagers (guys and girls) invited me to their table at a bar in Chinag Mai, they wanted to talk about kdramas and kpop, and they didnt know who justin Bieber, Taylor Swift or any other western artist where (by name that is, im sure they had heard their songs) they just listened to thai music and kpop. I got of at a random small town in Isaan where I would spend the night, checked in at the only guest house in town and there was this cute 20y/o girl with big boobs who dropped her jaw at me. She couldnt speak any english and my thai is pretty primitive, but her friend translated for us and it turns out she is a mad kdrama fan.
Phnon Phenh, couldnt even get a haircut without some cute girl getting a shock when seeing me. She whispered with her friend and waved at me, I nod back, later got her back at my guest house for a bang, which destroyed my chances with the receptionist there who was also into me.
Even in recently isolated Myanmar I got in touch with a cute girl of indian decent that loved kdramas. I couldnt seal the deal since she was very conservative and was afraid of her parents who demanded her to marry a hindi-guy, so just a short make-out session. But still, in fucking Myanmar!

The Philippines is what it is, you dont have to break a sweat in order to get laid if you are a male foreigner. If you are good looking its even easier. But I think it has been menthioned in the Phil-thread that there definatly is a 'sub-group' that specialized in koreans and japanese. I got in touch with some of these, one a (for filipina) tall and pale skinned beauty working in a fancy departmentstore, another bigg tittied working on a local tv-station (definatly not as an anchor), and ofc some pipelined from online.

When I travelled through China I didnt get much attention since evryone there assumes that any asian person is chinese. That is until I opened my mouth, and when they asked where i was from and I answered korean most people took that as something good, immidiatly talking about samsung, k-fashion, actors, dramas, groups and so on. Got my chinese flagg from a chinese tourist (many travel within their own country) at a hostel in Nanjing.
Oh, and Putin Closes, you say that you doubt that chinese mainlanders watch kdramas?

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Descendants of the Sun: the Korean military romance sweeping Asia...
Korean television dramas have always been popular across Asia, but the region may have hit peak K-drama fever with military romance Descendants of the Sun....

But its main fan base lies overseas, particularly China, where so far it has been viewed more than 440 million times on popular video-streaming site iQiyi.com. China has strict rules on broadcasting foreign dramas, but relaxed them for Descendants of the Sun, whose production was reportedly partly funded by Chinese investors.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35888537

Earlier this year great controversy occurred when Taiwan elected its president Tsai Ing-wen, who is on the more nationalistic side. At the same time a taiwanese memeber in a kpop girl group appeared in a tv-show waiving the taiwanese flag which made China furious and cancelled all planned shows for the girl group, which made the korean company scared since China, infact, is a great market for them so they made her apologise publicly, which made the taiwanese furious against China and led to the newly elected president brought the whole thing up in her speach.
So kpop even finds its way into international politics in this part of the world. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/....html?_r=0

I was in Korea for the first time 2013, and second time last year. Even back at the first time I noticed a great number of foreign girls that was dating korean guys, and those who wasnt most of them had still an interest for doing it all from hijab wearing malaysian girls, black french girls, asian australians, polish exchange students, russian, latinas, brittish, germans, japanese, turkish, americans. But last year it was even more, some of my korean friends where activly seeking them out and banging them left to the right. Only country in Asia where I saw more local guys with foreign girls then the opposit (note that koreans still mostly stick to their own). Most interesting here are the japanese girls that seems to go to Korea for either study, or just for the weekend to do shopping, eating partying and in both cases to get banged. Its almost comparable to how girls from northern Europe go to the mediterranian for the same purpose.

So, here are my experiences/observations in Asia. Why bringing up all of this? Well, the thread was going on normaly until some guys started pointing out ways to play the k-card and others respondedn with bitter hate and denial of any advantage the hallyu-wave might have given, even against obviouse facts presented by non-koreans and even non-asians. So far I have only seen one k-supremacist race-troll in this thread. And ofc I dont mean that by presenting this that all you need is to be korean to get laid. No, Infact many of my attempts (even the ones where the girls basicly throw themselves at me) failed because my game wasnt tight enough, bad logistics, I escalated to quickly, I suck at breaking down LMR and so on. But its even further from the truth to say that being korean wont give you any advantage what so ever, like some posts suggest, when there is no equivelant for other asian nationalities in the same broad way.
Althou, One thing you rarely hear of is the fact that many thai guys do get a lot of action with foreign girls in Thailand. Probably because the opposit outnumbers it so it gets 'hidden' by it. Also, japanese guys tend to have a lot of popularity that they rarely play out.

Now, some might say: "This is just a bunch of isolated coincidences that you happend to have experienced, proves nothing", ok lets take a look even further.

In 2012 I was traveling through South America and got blown away with how much the hallyu-wave had striked even there. In Buenos Aires I was told that there was this thing called "come asiaticos" (trans: eat asians) which was girls that where activly seeking asian guys and to get a kiss from them, or getting together with them. One of the clubs that was had a big screen showing mvideos, and there was a lot of kpop there. Unfortunatly I decided to hang out with brittish frat-party crowd....
In Brazil and Ecuador, kpop flashmobs and dance contest was held.
I have read Brosemits info on southern Brazil, where i havnt been so I cant talk about that part, so when I say South America I mean Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia and Uruguay. Althou Peru and Bolivia had some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen.
South American girls seems to have a thing for asians in general (not all ofc, but a significant amount) kpop, kdramas seems to just fuel that even more. I met one japanese backpacker who had a blast in Colombia and said many girls there got interested in him for both anime, martial arts and hallyu-stuff. Confirms by this guy:

I recently got in touch with a cute 19y/o colombiana, and the conversation turned sexual and she asked me if I had any fantasies, I then asked her the same question, she thought and said she didnt have any but then changed her mind and asked if wanting to have sex with an asian guy counted. I said 'sure', and asked how long she had that fantasy? Since she was 11 when she watched her first kdrama.
Note that she said asian guys, not specificly koreans.

Here is some korean news from Venezuela (and yes, Im aware that most girls in that video arnt exactly top notch).

Various Kcons are held around the world where thousands of girls attends and where most of them will have a big interest in asian guys thanks to their obsession for kpop. Here is another non-scientific youtube clip to make my point.

And an even more ridiculous one:

As this forum keeps promoting, Russia is good for men in general, which also includes asians. The 'famouse' racism against asians in Russia is highly exagerated (it obviously exists, but dont belive that its as comon as presented in the west) many russian girls have a great interest in China and studies the language and are activly seeking a chinese husband. Korean wave has also found its place here now, online i see alot of russian, belarusian and ukranina girls who want to study korean and like dramas. On youtube there is several channels for russian speakers about Korea, and in the comment section its like 95% girls. One girl from a 3tr city I met told me all her friends where together or engaged with korean guys, in some random 3tr city.

Ok, now Im way outside of topic, and just like El Chinito Loco said

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This conversation about the korean status bump is completely gay.

I agree, I probably gained like 50 homo-points for writing this selfe-promoting shit, but its even more beta to activly deny an existing benefit just because your butthurt feelings cant take it that you dont benefit from it directly...when infact you do (if you are asian).
I have met chinese, filipino and viet-americans/australians who have used this to their own advantage, they dont see it as a rejection for them not being korean, they claim it has smooth the way for them as well. Just like someone else also wrote, in the west the asian guys getting most action outside of their own race are usually SEA-guys (to my observation) I suspect its because they approache more and has more swag. So now we are back to basic, Game.

Take inspiration from this asian guy