[The Lizard of Oz]

(02-13-2016 12:33 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  

This reminds me of a dear prudence story I saw on slate with Emily Yoeffe (sp). Emily is an older woman, and gives very straight and strongly opinionated advice. Sometimes the advice is very blue pill, other times it is very red pill. So; A woman wrote in to ask how she could make amends with her older sister.

The older sister at 17 in grade 12 had fallen in love with her English teacher, who was 22. Due to the closeness in age the parents first instinct was to not knee jerk get the guy in jail, but to do some investigating. The parents talked to her, talk to the teacher, and since they were so close in age, and were very serious, decided that they should be extremely discreet until the older sister graduated and they could get married.

This is an example of keeping "solving a problem internally in the family" and not involving the law.

However.

The younger sister, for reasons she did not adequately describe, thought the situation was very wrong and informed the school and police. The teacher was fired and sent to jail for statutory rape, and after he came out of jail after a year, was put on a permanent sex offender list. The older sister stuck by the guy and married him, and they now have two children. The guy obviously, has had a very hard time building a career and finances for them have been hard.

The younger sister, now 10 years later, is asking for advice on how to make amends. Says she has tried repeatedly to apologize, but the older sister has refused to talk to her for 5 years, and will not come to any event in which the younger sister is present. Emily's advice was to put it bluntly - you're fucked and never going to be forgiven. Some commenters inthe posts below the article said the only way to would be to buy forgiveness for a very large sum of money, and even then, would probably still be rejected.

This is an example of a jealous younger sibling, in a moment of youth, permanently fucking up someone else's life for very trivial and fleeting reasons.

That woman should publish her story in a major outlet -- maybe Emily Yoffe can help her get it into Slate. She should describe clearly the evil insanity of consent laws that make a dangerous criminal and lifelong pariah of a 22 year old man who falls in reciprocated love with a 17 year old woman. She should then devote her life to becoming a paralegal assistant who works for lawyers that file appeals on behalf of such defendants; she should make sure that every i is dotted and every t is crossed on each such appeal. She should testify before Congress, and any and all state and local commissions whose business it is to consider these terrible and life-destroying laws.

After she has done this for at least a decade -- devoting essentially every waking moment of her life to the endeavor -- she should come to her sister and her sister's husband and humbly beg them for forgiveness.

[muscless]

The state is all about making money. A man of a house/family deals with the matter. If someone is killed, the law deals with it!

Its only turned to a Nanny state cause women don't turn to ther man for help cause she is on her own so she turns to the state and calls a policeMAN. A man living on his own will deal with the matter himself!

If i have a problem with someone in my house I remove him, not the fucking pigs!

[CactusCat589]

What a evil piece of shit the father is. Not even your adopted or foster son, but your actual son. Jesus.

[EvanWilson]

(02-13-2016 12:10 PM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  

I caught this on reddit as well, very sad story.

Falling out of college is a huge emotional blow to kids. I failed out of lawschool and felt like killing myself. It seems silly now. It is really easy to fall into that trap of feeling like a failure and that everything is over.

Failing out of law school may have been a good thing for you

I found out that only about 70% of the people that get a law degree are still working in the field afterwards. (i.e. they can't find a job that would pay more than something outside of working as a lawyer.) And many of them are not even earning enough money to be able to pay off the $100K+ in student loans they took out to be able to go to law school. I know a number of people that ended up far worse off after law school as far as income because, unless you have an in with a law firm owned by your family or in the top few percent at a top school, everyone else ends up working as a contractor for $25/hr from time to time,OR ends up working as a Assistant District Attorney or Public Defender for $28K/year.

[lemko]

(02-13-2016 10:40 AM)Wrathchild Wrote:  

Being a Beta White Knight is a health hazard. It often affects the person's own progeny. In this case, a fucking stepdaughter's verbal allegations were put in front of the words of his own son.

He chose to believe another woman who had no proof other than her words. This is what happens when we accept every rape allegation as true, innocent men get fucked. And also, look at the reason she lied. She was fucking and did not want them to find out, so she invented that she was abused. She had no problem to destroy her own step-brother's life as long as she was left off the hook. Typical woman nowadays, it's getting even more common by the minute.

I hope the son gets well, I hope his father lives enough to see his son being successful and living a good life without ever talking to him again.

The fact that he'd put this stepdaughter's word before his own flesh and blood is what I found most appalling. Rape and sexual molestation are the most heinous things she could've accused her stepbrother of short of outright murder. I'd tell that stepdaughter that if I found out she was lying, their would be dire consequences to pay!

[germanico]

(02-13-2016 02:35 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Be warned: while it isn't a magic bullet, Hacker Factor analyses the reddit post as written by a female, whether formal or informal context is used. Likely bullshit, likelier shitposting by someone with not even a talent for fan fiction or the patience to write a novel. For the most part it's women who write and get off on confessional stories. It appeals to such women's deceptive natures, as roughly the only place they can be honest with anyone including themselves.

Most dudes who post on Reddit are very femaley. And the collective thoughts on Reddit are emotionally driven, narcissistic, and unmasculine. (ie: hunting is bad, you should stick to your cheating waifu, getting excited that a fucking superhero movie is coming out is cool, etc.)

But what gave them away is the use of the word "bawling my eyes". No man with a college-aged son would speak that way. "Crying my eyes out", maybe. "Bawling", my bawlz.

[EDantes]

Why was the stepdaughter that scared to admit that she was having sex with her boyfriend?

Was the dad some hyper-religious extremist or something?

[Wadsworth]

What an unbelievable cuck. Can you imagine doing that to your own son?

[kamoz]

Horrible but believable. He said stepdaughter, so probably the biological daughter of the mother. The mother was probably totally on her daughters side, and possibly well indoctrinated on feminist rape culture. The dad being the beta cuck he is had his balls owned by his wife. The wife pressured him to go against his son and he did. I buy it.

[Aurini]

This is a lesson that people need to have drilled into them: never invite the law into your life, and do everything you can to avoid its attention.

Every week it seems like Reason Magazine has a new story of some parent worrying about their schizophrenic child, phoning the police, and then the child winds up dead. Then you have situations like this. While I certainly don't want to bash cops (heck, I'm even planning to attend a friend of mine's police graduation later this year), the fact is that when you invite the law into your life you're throwing away your fourth amendment rights. Invite them into your home, and you're offering them a chance to search it.

Do you know all the laws covering knives in your district? Is the organic milk you bought legal? Is there something suspicious but innocuous that could wind up with you being put under surveillance?

I wish that weren't the way of the world but it is. Avoid the law, courts, and lawyers if you possibly can.