[CupCake]

(07-08-2011 12:01 AM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

Paul Janka "natural" game. Mystery Method "routine" game. Which is less likely to flake?

Wow. Thank you for sharing those videos.

I know I tend to come off like Janka a lot and I think that's why I'm not doing well. I was really blown away by the Mystery video. That seemed really forward of him to do something like that but it totally worked. I can't believe how long he was able to keep that going. I usually start to choke after a few minutes. Approaching multiple girls is daunting. I thought it was a crash and burn after he asked how long the two knew each other but it smoothed over fine.

Man, the level of comfort he had is something I aspire to. Jeez. I gotta get that good. I would like to watch the follow-up to that meeting. Roosh should do videos like this.

[Samseau]

(07-07-2011 10:16 PM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

This guy does day game and has better numbers than Paul Janka. His game is more structured.

http://www.seductionpath.com/posts/my-results-for-2010

Quote:

My results for 2010
16/01/2011

Last summer I started logging all my approaches in a spreadsheet.

After 2010 was over, I checked the spreadsheet to get answers to some of my questions.

Mainly, I wanted to find out how many days I should call until I delete her number.

Some notes before you read the rest of the post:

most of my approaches were day game (around 80-90%)
the duration of most of my sets were 5 minutes (I’m usually in a hurry during the day and don’t go out to pick up women)
the statistics apply to my style of game (if you want to find out how I approach join my mailing list by entering your email on the “Free Training” on the right)
I only approached girls “cute and above” (no fatties, no strange psychotic girls)
Here’s what I discovered while crunching the data:

from a total of 250 phone numbers (80-90% of which are day game number closes)
end results were: 63 dates (I got a date with one in four girls I number closed) and 32 lays (half of the girls I dated ended with a lay)
I attribute at least 5 of my LMRs that didn’t finalized into a lay due to my bad boy strategy (lack of comfort, intense sexual presence) with which I quickly got the girl home, I got LMR and her ASD kicked in the day after. Also, some girls I discarded on the first date because I didn’t like them.

Statistics regarding how many days pass by until I got the date:

instant dates (+ same day lays): 12
dates on second day (a date the day after the number close): 15
dates on 3rd day: 4
dates on 4th day: 6
dates on 5th day: 7
dates on 6th day: 5
dates on the second week: 11
dates on 3rd week: 1
girl that took more than 2 weeks: 2
* this is from the point I got her number, in some cases I called the very next day, in others I didn’t; statistically it didn’t matter, if I didn’t get the date on the second week I almost never got it after

What’s my conclusion while looking at these numbers? If I can’t get the girl on the second week (assuming I have a free schedule) …. I shouldn’t bother!

* of course, there are exceptions, mainly that the girl is away on weekends (or during the week) or that I am busy. I pursued only 2 girls successfully for more than 2 weeks (and yes, it was worth it) but if she’s not *amazing*, it’s a no no.

I got these results using my bad boy strategy in which I also tried to get the date as quickly as possible. My next project is to try a laid back approach (calling less and leaving a lot of days in between) to see if I improve my results.

I'm skeptical of those numbers.

[spinaroonie]

(07-08-2011 05:18 PM)CupCake Wrote:  

(07-08-2011 12:01 AM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

Paul Janka "natural" game. Mystery Method "routine" game. Which is less likely to flake?

Wow. Thank you for sharing those videos.

I know I tend to come off like Janka a lot and I think that's why I'm not doing well. I was really blown away by the Mystery video. That seemed really forward of him to do something like that but it totally worked. I can't believe how long he was able to keep that going. I usually start to choke after a few minutes. Approaching multiple girls is daunting. I thought it was a crash and burn after he asked how long the two knew each other but it smoothed over fine.

Man, the level of comfort he had is something I aspire to. Jeez. I gotta get that good. I would like to watch the follow-up to that meeting. Roosh should do videos like this.

Mystery Method during the day is lethal. To anyone unaware, the Australian dude just looks like a smooth cat. Anyone who's aware of Mystery Method can see it's 100% scripted. The opinion opener, neg, DHV, qualification, number. And the guy plowed through the black-haired bitch's cockblocking with finesse.

The Paul Janka method is garbage. Guarnteed to collect nothing but flakes. Can't believe this guy makes a living shilling this shit - he even recieved national exposure on Dr. Phil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYT6qlyIws