[CJ]

This obviously goes without saying, as anyone you allow to wing you should enhance your game, and never hinder it, but if you happen to come across one with the same mindset as you?

I've been trying to get other friends of mine to fall-in and lead this type of lifestyle, and while teaching is a good way to gauge where your own game is at, you can't turn a pupil with a lack of desire into a pick-up master.

I've found myself in a new situation, where I consider myself the mid-level disciple, on his way to being an established whore, learning from a seasoned pro. He's pointed out a few leaks in my game already, and I can tell my game is getting tighter.

I know it's not an option for everyone, and I know some of you are already pros, but I'd advise everyone else to find a friend like this (you may already have one) and learn as much as you can from that dude, and your game will be razor sharp by the end of the Summer.


EDIT: Wow, Gmac wrote nearly the exact same thing on his blog, check it out!

[Kickb]

A good wing is hard to find; i still dont have one. Is your friend someone you have known for a while?

ha that's funny

[sir_seducer]

a good wingman is also means to me that encourages you to approach..weather he approaches or not..and in your failure he gives hope..and in the success hes celibrating with u.

but again.....its indeed hard to find.

[Riker]

Yea I need to find someone thats super positive, social, and with some tight game.

[CJ]

(06-26-2011 03:23 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  

Is your friend someone you have known for a while?

Nope, friend of a friend that we both deemed too "conservative" to really excel in this lifestyle.

I agree that a good wing can be difficult to find, but if you keep your eyes open you may pluck one out of your social circle.

I look at it like I did when I was learning to play guitar; I got better by learning from people that were better than me.

[Walderschmidt]

A good wingman really helps!

If both you and your wingman are good looking then groups of attractive girls won't have to worry about who they end up with because both guys are also attractive.

Second, if you're new to the game and your wingman is an old hand, he can really help you out in the field. I have some cool Angolan friends who are really good with girls, and they helped me get laid in Crete (lost my virginity).

Wald

[CJ]

And all good things must end, my "perfect" wingman has proven he's actually a selfish douche and a semi-cock block (IE - my game can trump his dumb shit) when he drinks, and has disappointed me.

Sorry for posting slightly intoxicated (and posting something negative), but this crap pisses me off, and I want to re-enforce the idea that when you go out, if you get laid or not, all falls on your shoulders and yours alone.

[Walderschmidt]

(07-09-2011 11:12 PM)CJ Wrote:  

And all good things must end, my "perfect" wingman has proven he's actually a selfish douche and a semi-cock block (IE - my game can trump his dumb shit) when he drinks, and has disappointed me.

Sorry for posting slightly intoxicated (and posting something negative), but this crap pisses me off, and I want to re-enforce the idea that when you go out, if you get laid or not, all falls on your shoulders and yours alone.

Of course. A wing man can only help you so much.

I was one of two people my wingman (and one of my best friends) was trying to help.

I was the one who got laid. The reason why? I was willing to put in the work.

[MrPink]

(06-27-2011 05:50 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

A good wingman really helps!

If both you and your wingman are good looking then groups of attractive girls won't have to worry about who they end up with because both guys are also attractive.

Second, if you're new to the game and your wingman is an old hand, he can really help you out in the field. I have some cool Angolan friends who are really good with girls, and they helped me get laid in Crete (lost my virginity).

Wald

On the other hand,

Recently out with some friends, one guy decided to hit on these American girls, with me as his wingman.
1. He had his gf there, an 8, drunk and beginning to get horny.
2. These girls were all 4s. And American.
3. He was impressed that they were white and American.

I acted as a bad wingman, not out of spite or beta-ness, but because I believed he could do WAY better, for the "greater good" so to speak.

Is this justified?

[Gmac]

(07-11-2011 03:39 PM)MrPink Wrote:  

(06-27-2011 05:50 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

A good wingman really helps!

If both you and your wingman are good looking then groups of attractive girls won't have to worry about who they end up with because both guys are also attractive.

Second, if you're new to the game and your wingman is an old hand, he can really help you out in the field. I have some cool Angolan friends who are really good with girls, and they helped me get laid in Crete (lost my virginity).

Wald

On the other hand,

Recently out with some friends, one guy decided to hit on these American girls, with me as his wingman.
1. He had his gf there, an 8, drunk and beginning to get horny.
2. These girls were all 4s. And American.
3. He was impressed that they were white and American.

I acted as a bad wingman, not out of spite or beta-ness, but because I believed he could do WAY better, for the "greater good" so to speak.

Is this justified?

You cockblocked your friend, I'd say no. If he wants to bang mud turtles that's his right.

[DonovanVC]

pretty much best way to learn game is go out with guys who r good. reading articles, all that other shit is jes to fill in the details and keep ur mind rite

[CJ]

I'm still bummed out cuz this friend had the same "let's go pickup some sluts every night" mentality that I have, but I can't operate with people that can't control themselves when they drink.

Apparently after I took off the other night, my friend proceeded to get even drunker, and was insulting the ladies I know that run a martini bar I frequent. Glad I wasn't a part of that.

Lesson 2: Don't go out with people who like to get too wasted.

[Gmac]

(07-11-2011 05:52 PM)CJ Wrote:  

I'm still bummed out cuz this friend had the same "let's go pickup some sluts every night" mentality that I have, but I can't operate with people that can't control themselves when they drink.

Apparently after I took off the other night, my friend proceeded to get even drunker, and was insulting the ladies I know that run a martini bar I frequent. Glad I wasn't a part of that.

Lesson 2: Don't go out with people who like to get too wasted.

Sounds like me on occasion. It's a double edged sword, but it's fun!