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It is the Men's fault.
#26

It is the Men's fault.

Salient points. +1 rep from me.

-- Dr. Kahn


Quote: (01-31-2016 01:37 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Like I was saying on the big board, this situation is about the "Secret Society"

1) You're dealing with chicks from work - that's already a bad move. That's worse than no lube ass fucking chicks in your church's choir.

Let's say things went ahead as planned, and the white knights didn't come through.

You would have gotten 4 chicks from the job, HIGH.
Then you would have fucked em.

Wouldn't be surprised if chicks that are cool with getting high with other co-workers might have sampled more than a few guys goods.

Aside from the criminal and civil liabilities, as well as the job issues...

Fucking a chick that you work with is full of god damned danger.
Making it a "scene", some cool shit that they want to be in on - with such obvious issues makes you vulnerable.

Vulnerable.

Maybe one of your mates is kinky or violent, or worse yet, he fucks the chick and makes her feel like a slut. She gets major buyer's remorse and either spreads it around that all of you guys are jerks. Then the rest of that shit comes out.

Why? For one mediocre blow job in the back of your Ford Fusion?
So you can have a little secret about making the Allie from Admin squirt?

There's no fucking upside.

These chicks have all of the power in the world and witnesses to turn your life into a living hell.

NO GAME.

But if you persist in suicide missions, kamikaze for cunt

Here's how you should have done it.

1) Be Aware of What You're trying to do. Frat boy mentality, let's invite the sorors over to get fucked up and fuck is what doomed you to failure here.

2) Be aware of the mentality of chicks.

Are you guys cool enough to associate with?

3) When you invited them over to chill and Netflix, from JUMP you should have had the extra-curriculars on the DL. Just for these eventualities.
- one of them broads might be a straight Jehovaha's Witness or a recent Born Again Christian.

4) When you make the offer, only HINT at some devious shit. NEVER come out and say what it is. You want to SUB-COMMUNICATE what's about to go down.

5) When they got their with the Mormons, Elder Ammon and company would have just thought it was a get together. A few beers, a bottle of Vodka and some conversation.

Cool. They would have probably turned on the TV or gathered around the alcohol and talked about some bullshit like the Superbowl or whether Trump is gonna beat Sanders.

6) Now that you got the broads there, you use some INDIRECT game.

Each of you, or all of you, has conversations with THEIR MIXED GROUP. And from there you throw out shit that the girls understand, but the guys would not understand.

You know these bitches want to fuck.
Now you need to signal to them that you're the men to do it.
But because you're using body language, because of what you're not saying, because of what you're implying - you run game like you would at a wedding. Her parents are watching. Have an innocent conversation.

Then as you get the good vibes from her, "Oh hey, there's this thing i need to show you....5 minutes, we'll be right back"

Now that you got the broad ISOLATED and away from their haters, you run more game. To get her comfortable, to see where her head is at.

Maybe the chick just wanted to do something, get out, see some people. Maybe sex isn't on her conscious mind. Run your indirect, enjoy a glass of wine with her, and let the truth emerge.

Move the chick to a new spot, and move the conversation to more "risque topics". (why move her a second time, because white knights gonna white knight and send out a search party to your last location)

If you find out she partakes, BOOM, that's when you pull out your wacky tobaccky.

If you probe in that area, and she Churchifies on you, well cool, you haven't played your hand.

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The main principle to tight social circles/work is to give her and yourself PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.

We were just talking
We were just having a chat
Having a private drink
Flirting.

The result?
Girl doesn't feel like a slut.
Her girl friends don't think she's a slut (openly)
The White Knights are none the wise, just think that guys like you have all the luck.

But if it does pop off, a little smoke and poke, or just the poke - you bring something back to the group that explains your absence.

"She had to get something from the car"..

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As for helping the chicks out of the snow.

Dude, it was a fucking blizzard. You knew that shit was coming.

Rather than spout off some red pill bullshit and stomp off in a huff -

1) You should have bounced ASAP when you realized shit was not going as you planned

2) If not possible, made yourself scarce. Either by holding out of the group's sight somewhere, or leaving first.

3) The last move would have been to assemble the "Avengers" and played the Captain America role but be Iron Man on the low.

"Hey White Knights, if we work as a team, we can dig all of their cars out together"

'Leader of Men'

And while them boys are killing themselves showing what morons they are, spend your time talking to the chicks while they're working.

So if the chicks are out there supervising, you walk over and talk.

If they stayed inside warm, you would go out with the men, get them started and say "I forgot something inside"

Keep a shovel in your hand for appearances sake, maybe even get it wet once or twice - but while they're occupied you work on the bitches.

"So Annie from Accounting, where you headed after this?"

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All this shit sounds elaborate, but the underlying principle is there are women, squares, and players.

Let the squares be squares. You don't try to convert them. You don't try to kick knowledge. You don't try to fight them. Let them be.

Keep secrets

With the chicks, you know that they are always facing judgment. You can't advertise a drug fueled sex orgy as a drug fueled sex orgy.

You say, "It's just a little get together....but it'll be so much more fun than the bullshit you're doing. We got a little bit of food, some drank. We'll watch Frozen and have a sing-a-long"

Then when they come through, that's when let the squares be squares, and make your INDIRECT moves on the chicks.

Bitches ain't stupid. Guys are.

Why is it that you guys don't think these things through?

Maybe my particular plan might not have worked out, but going into the situation knowing that chicks get judged and you have to camouflage and sub-communicate all of your intentions.

The clueless stay clueless.
Those that are in the know, get it.

That's Game 101.

WIA
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#27

It is the Men's fault.

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Why? For one mediocre blow job in the back of your Ford Fusion?

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Vice-Captain - #TeamWaitAndSee
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#28

It is the Men's fault.

I hate it that I have to go dig up banal threads like this to find pearls of wisdom from WIA [Image: lol.gif]

Ass or cash, nobody rides for free - WestIndiArchie
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#29

It is the Men's fault.

Quote: (01-31-2016 03:47 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I hate it that I have to go dig up banal threads like this to find pearls of wisdom from WIA [Image: lol.gif]

I should start posting shit like...

"17 Reasons why your sleeve tattoo and beard is making pussies dry."

lol.

I think this is the main reason I don't have a blog.

I can't write about nothing, and then post my words into a vacuum.

I need an actual problem in front of me, and someone with the issue following along.

Back when this pick up thing started being discussed on the net, most of the posts were

- I met this girl
- I took this girl out
- I had this opener...
- I got this chick in bed, and she wanted to peg me...

Real practical shit. By new guys and vets.

Nowadays...it's so much THEORY w/o the practical aspects.

To me, maybe it's my science background, but the nitty gritty details, the hard work, the poor yields even though you followed everything in the text book - that's what leads to good theory. And good theory should lead to better practice as you test your assumptions, as you deal with outliers.

Lot of them outliers end up being right in the middle of the curve when you get your equations right.

WIA
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#30

It is the Men's fault.

Quote: (01-31-2016 03:35 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

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Why? For one mediocre blow job in the back of your Ford Fusion?

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While WIA post was unnecessarily condescending and exaggerated; on just this occasion i am willing to look past that, to the few gems buried within. Hence i gave him a rep point.

Quote: (01-31-2016 03:47 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I hate it that I have to go dig up banal threads like this to find pearls of wisdom from WIA [Image: lol.gif]

This coming from a weak-ass trust-fund baby who couldn't pee straight unless daddy and mommy hold his dick for him. thread-46853...pid1003497 . I have zero respect for the likes of you.

Most of your threads are exercise in profound triteness: From threads about "Wearing girls jeans" to "Attic room arrangement/decorations" to "Does light snacking on dates make you drunk more quickly?" On and On and On. The pot calling the kettle black. Please, GTFO.


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#31

It is the Men's fault.

^ I think this clown wants to get banned so he doesn't have to follow through on the ridiculous claims he made in his retarded Academic is MORE ALPHA than sports thread.
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#32

It is the Men's fault.

Dude, you spend too much time thinking about me.

-- Dr. Kahn

Quote: (02-01-2016 10:51 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  

^ I think this clown wants to get banned so he doesn't have to follow through on the ridiculous claims he made in his retarded Academic is MORE ALPHA than sports thread.
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#33

It is the Men's fault.

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#34

It is the Men's fault.

Quote: (02-01-2016 02:41 AM)Dr. Kahn Wrote:  

Quote: (01-31-2016 03:47 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I hate it that I have to go dig up banal threads like this to find pearls of wisdom from WIA [Image: lol.gif]

This coming from a weak-ass trust-fund baby who couldn't pee straight unless daddy and mommy hold his dick for him.

7-day suspension for personally insulting another member.

I can't have sex with your personality, and I can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams, so why are you sharing all this information with me?
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#35

It is the Men's fault.

Chill out dude, we need you to survive long enough to drop that epic datasheet about how that PhD buries you in pussy and cash.
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#36

It is the Men's fault.

UPDATE:

Some of the things/advice predicted here actually did come to pass, some didn't.

But first, after reading the advice here, i initiated a contingency plan of dressing up my resume and started looking for another job. It pans out: I am starting a new job at another company next week for: +25% pay increase over the current one.. They called me back that fast, did a 2 hours interview and was hired the next day. Now they want me to start next week.

I will take whatever i have learned here and apply to my next job and not make the same mistakes.

#2. We had a Company meeting yesterday consisting of the men in the company. Just the men from 3 departments. The senior engineers and departmental heads talk to all of us, basically about *some people* behaviors,etc during the snow blizzard day. They gave a serious warning, making it clear that next time, things will result in terminations. I couldn't give a fuck. I already have an offer for +25% pay raise at another company.

#3. My soon-to-be-ex-company is in a hiring frenzy, and they just hired a spate of new hotties: a couple of red hot columbians with asses to die for; some exotic South African blend, cutie African american, Fillipinoes, etc(I want to get to know who the H.R person is, because he or she has some fine taste in women.)

The best part is that with the exception of one of the columbian chick, the rest are cool and flirty. Which makes the "drama girls from snow blizzard day" jealous, because we've severely limited our interactions with them. Especially now that management had called all the men from 3 department into a meeting about *some people behaviour during the blizzard*.

The news of our behavior has become widespread, which gave us a COOL NOTORIETY. People come up to us to hang out and talk to us, giving us their phone numbers, facebook, etc taking our side and talking about "how gay those guys(the cockblockers) are" and how lame those girls are. How they wish they were there partying with us, etc. That none of this should ever even become a management issue, etcetera. Of course, other girls now like us too.

The management team calling a meeting for all the men from 3 departments(addressing just only the men), only helped fuel the stories through the company. Of course, the stories become more and more exaggerated and cooler the more it spread.

Since there are no serious consequences from management, i will say overall it is a win. We get the fame, the notoriety, the cool factor, without the downsides. But i am well aware, it could have gone in a completely bad way. We dodged a bullet.

That is the update.

-- Dr. Kahn
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