[Paracelsus]

(01-07-2016 09:25 PM)AlphaRN Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 06:33 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

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1) The western world will fall into survival status and the men will have no choice but to put women back in their role.

2) The western world will collapse and the eastern world will put what is left of our women back in their role.

Money quote right here. Women will be back in the kitchen before long. The only question will be whether it is of their own volition, or being dragged.

Keep in mind that ecomonies around the world are EXTREMELY fragile. If Big Biz and Big Gov continue to layoff more and more jobs (including women) sooner or later the whole house of cards is coming down. Strip away everything to the most basic level where resources are scarce and women come flocking back to men in droves to protect and provide for them. The current generation of women are awful by and large (though you can find some gems if you search really hard) but a future generation of women yet to be born will only know a world of scarcity, and as such, won't have time for Tumblr feminism and other SJW causes.

My money is that women are coming back to the kitchen of their own choice, but they won't advertise it as much. What we need is more suffering. Suffering has a way of focusing the mind on how things really are, instead of how you've been living in fantasy land.

Embrace the suffering. Rebuild from the ashes. Oh, and spank your wife's butt as you playfully send her back to the kitchen where she belongs.

Agreed. I have said this many times. Our society is fragile, in fact, civility is almost a lie. Take away modern comforts and watch society implode. New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina was sneak preview. If people are not provided the resources they need, they will simple take them, by lethal force for the essentials of life (food, fresh water). In a society that doesnt give you anything, and you have to take everything you need, a modern woman would only have one thing to offer.

A certain quote from the movie Blade springs to mind:

"The world you know is just a sugar-coated topping. There is another world, the real world, beneath it. And if you want to survive in it, you have better learn to pull the trigger."

[Dominance]

Some guys doing it back.. this ones classic.

[AnonymousBosch]

So, basically: #PlayingChickenWithTheWall2016

I've lived long enough to know the wall always wins.

[Bacchus]

This is a trend that has been building and will continue.

Men are entertainment for girls. A relationship is not their goal, and the man is not a person with his own thoughts and desires. They're not seeking someone to connect with (although some attachment may develop). The goal is drama.

And men are the best source of drama. Provide that and you will have their attention. Because they're bored.

It's all about who can provide the most stimulation. And stimulation doesn't just mean bedroom acrobatics. It's also the dread of waiting for a text. Or the thrill of the chase. And the joy of breathlessly telling it to her friends.

[Prince of Persia]

Both #wastehertime2016 and #wastehistime2016 are fucking hilarious, not gonna lie.

[Dr. Howard]

(01-07-2016 09:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 06:54 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

It just goes to show you that single, childless women a long-term danger to society.

Why do you think they're consistently portrayed as evil characters throughout folklore cross-culturally? People noticed the pattern.

You can tell Disney is under SJW control when they start reimagining fairy tales by making the heroine of a fairy tale the Antagonist and trying to 'justify' her evil actions.

Good point. I'm going to wait for the movie "sad clown...the misunderstood life of john wayne gacy" when the pedo acceptance movement ramps up

[Matsufubu]

If I ever want to know the answer to 'Who doesn't have a job or anything worthwhile in their life?' I just need to look at who is tweeting this rubbish. Under-employed idiots.

[Cadders]

The sweetest irony is that compared to women, men have the time to waste. Women's use-by date will arrive much sooner than men's.

The time women spend screwing men about is more costly to them than the men they target. Thinking one step ahead - it's not for women.

[Architekt]

This just popped up

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Fabian Suarez reportedly stabbed Lina Johnson to death Thursday night on the 5200 Block of N Monroe St. after she allegedly “wasted his time” According to authorities, Lina, who was an avid twitter user, was influenced by the “#WasteHisTime2016” trend. Investigators say Lina asked Fabian to take her on a date, as she reportedly knew that Fabian liked her. Lina then allowed Fabian to pay for dinner, take her shopping at Victoria’s Secret, to only then have him drop her off at her new boyfriends house. After arriving outside Lina’s boyfriends house, Fabian reportedly asked “this is where you live?”, at which point Lina replied with “No, this is my new boyfriends house. these panties you bought me are for him to see”. Fabian then lost it, taking out a pocket knife and stabbing Lina 24 times in the chest.

EDIT: Note: It's satire, but still entirely plausible

[Tigre]

(01-07-2016 05:47 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

It may drive more guys to the red pill, but I still think that by and large most men will double down to protect their ego. Just like this guy:

I thought that "white knight" comment was actually pretty well thought out (spelling and grammar mistakes notwithstanding).

To the guys attacking it - do you think this campaign is satirical, or don't you? Why or why not?

[Charles Martel]

Unfortunately, I am catching a plane and don't have time to comment on this myself.

Have fun, Gents!

[Repo]

[thoughtgypsy]

(01-09-2016 01:35 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

I thought that "white knight" comment was actually pretty well thought out (spelling and grammar mistakes notwithstanding).

To the guys attacking it - do you think this campaign is satirical, or don't you? Why or why not?

If you're looking it from a guy's perspective, it may appear to be satirical, but we have to avoid our normalcy bias and think about it from the people who are writing these tweets- the women.

They may go along with the notion that this is really a satirical campaign, but that comes down to a woman's two favorite words: plausible deniability. They want to inflict pain on men, then when they're called out on it they can blame it on men while making themselves out to be victims.

When you read the tweets, and really think about it, it doesn't make much sense for them to be satire. The kind of shit they're talking about doesn't sound like the kind of stuff your typical 'fuckboy' would do. Some examples:

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tweet about how you have no texting you and when he texts you don't reply

A player advertising scarcity?

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Flirt with him a lot, as soon as you know he likes you back, ask him if his best friend is single

Would a player spend time and energy on a chick without banging her, just to toy with her emotionally?

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text him everyday and make him fall in love with you, then tell him you're not looking for a relationship at the moment

Plausible, but would a player just looking for the bang be texting a girl that much?

Most men I've met are just trying to get in and get out without wasting too much time or feeling the need to inflict unnecessary pain. But if you go back and read them again, they do sound like the kind of stuff that would hurt your typical thirsty guy. They're the ones who would text a girl if she was asking for attention, who would text a girl everyday without any expectation of escalation, and who would get hurt when a woman shoots them down. One of the quotes couldn't possibly apply if the roles were reversed:

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Let him take you out to dinner and buy you things and then tweet that you need a man

Another thing that makes me think this isn't satire is the general tone of deep anger. It doesn't sound like something that's trying to be that funny. There is real resentment just below the surface and they want to lash out at someone.

They should be looking in the mirror to figure out why this is happening in the first place. If every man they're going after doesn't want them after they pull out, maybe there's something wrong with themselves, or maybe they're going after the wrong kind of guys. Ultimately they have to decide that something is either wrong with themselves, or something is wrong with every guy they've slept with. They're so narcissistic that they decide it couldn't be them, it must be all men everywhere.

So they seek to inflict misery on men. Ironically, by carrying out this campaign, they'll be alienating the only subset of guys desperate enough to put up with their atrocious behavior. A player wouldn't waste his time on it and would be chasing other girls anyway. A thirsty guy would be hurt, and either face the music with women, or try to do mental gymnastics to explain it away, only encouraging more of it. Vicious cycle.

[Matsufubu]

Yeah, this is more about attacking the (beta type) men who DON'T pull the shit they're whining about for the transgressions of the alphas they're giving it up to. Still fucking the alphas, though. Classic displacement. So the alphas continue to laugh and get laid, the women's hamsters get a good workout, and the AFCs get closer and closer to being Elliot Rodgers all over again.

[Tigre]

(01-09-2016 03:34 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

When you read the tweets, and really think about it, it doesn't make much sense for them to be satire. The kind of shit they're talking about doesn't sound like the kind of stuff your typical 'fuckboy' would do. Some examples:

Actually once I was clued into the satire part, I immediately recognized male player strategies.

- Come into the group through the most approachable girl, demonstrate value, then trade up to the hotter girl in group.

- One of the RVF guys putting up the highest numbers in Colombia was operating on a "message every lead every day" strategy.

Not trying to single you out here, thoughgypsy. I just thought the standard of comments on this whole thread was mediocre.

Most of it strikes me as the male equivalent to your random Jezebel commenter saying "shitlord Jonathan Swift wants to practice cannibalism on human babies!!!1!"

[Gmac]

(01-09-2016 02:42 PM)Charles Martel Wrote:  

Unfortunately, I am catching a plane and don't have time to comment on this myself.

Have fun, Gents!

It's sad but these types of omega doughboys are all over the US. I knew a guy in high school that could have been his doppelganger.

[Blaster]

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Of course, most of the women doing this are claiming that they are doing it to "get back at fuckboys".

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The worst part is, as usual, the white knights joining in on the fun:

White knight is a faggot but he's most certainly right that the women posting in this hashtag aren't doing it to "flaunt superiority over men". It's painfully obvious that this hashtag is full of passive-aggressive rage from women spurned by alphas (or worse, spurned by even betas who wouldn't have them).

It's an obvious attempt at satire, and just as obviously fails at actually being satire because these posts are absolutely seething with butthurt and false bravado meant to conceal the pain of rejection.

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Flirt with him a lot, as soon as you know he likes you back, ask him if his best friend is single

Would a player spend time and energy on a chick without banging her, just to toy with her emotionally?

The mistake here is taking her girlspeak account of the relationship at face value. What she imagined as "flirting with her a lot" could very well have been nothing. Women always embellish their stories heavily, especially when they are fishing for sympathy or emotional support.

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Yeah, this is more about attacking the (beta type) men who DON'T pull the shit they're whining about for the transgressions of the alphas they're giving it up to.

I don't think so. They are angry at the alpha men who spurned them, and since those alphas are inaccessible they are spewing it on twitter to anyone who will will pay them any attention. Their audience is whoever will listen and give them emotional support.

[Blaster]

(01-09-2016 03:34 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

Another thing that makes me think this isn't satire is the general tone of deep anger. It doesn't sound like something that's trying to be that funny. There is real resentment just below the surface and they want to lash out at someone.

Right, it's not satire, but they imagine it to be.

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They should be looking in the mirror to figure out why this is happening in the first place. If every man they're going after doesn't want them after they pull out, maybe there's something wrong with themselves, or maybe they're going after the wrong kind of guys. Ultimately they have to decide that something is either wrong with themselves, or something is wrong with every guy they've slept with. They're so narcissistic that they decide it couldn't be them, it must be all men everywhere.

Yes, they should. But to me, these don't look like the kind of women interested in self-reflection.

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So they seek to inflict misery on men.

Yes, but bear in mind that to them, "men" means the kind of men who rejected them. The betas you are talking about simply aren't worth their energy. They don't exist in their world, in the same way that a pudgy, ugly girl doesn't exist in yours.

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Ironically, by carrying out this campaign, they'll be alienating the only subset of guys desperate enough to put up with their atrocious behavior

They do not care about alienating the unattractive men in the same way that you would not care about alienating unattractive women.

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A player wouldn't waste his time on it and would be chasing other girls anyway. A thirsty guy would be hurt, and either face the music with women, or try to do mental gymnastics to explain it away, only encouraging more of it. Vicious cycle.

Yes true but this is all way beyond what any of them are actually thinking about. They are simply imaging a world where they can reject and inflict pain on alpha men in the way that alphas have (probably inadvertently) caused them to feel pain. It's pure fantasy. It's not an admirable behavior by any means, but it's also not worth getting too worked up about.

[Matsufubu]

(01-09-2016 11:08 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

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Yeah, this is more about attacking the (beta type) men who DON'T pull the shit they're whining about for the transgressions of the alphas they're giving it up to.

I don't think so. They are angry at the alpha men who spurned them, and since those alphas are inaccessible they are spewing it on twitter to anyone who will will pay them any attention. Their audience is whoever will listen and give them emotional support.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. By 'attacking' I mean 'targeting' with this time wasting stuff. Attacking betas for getting played by alphas.

[Ivan_]

This shit isn't new.

[CRR]

(01-09-2016 11:08 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

White knight is a faggot but he's most certainly right that the women posting in this hashtag aren't doing it to "flaunt superiority over men". It's painfully obvious that this hashtag is full of passive-aggressive rage from women spurned by alphas (or worse, spurned by even betas who wouldn't have them).

It's an obvious attempt at satire, and just as obviously fails at actually being satire because these posts are absolutely seething with butthurt and false bravado meant to conceal the pain of rejection.

The mistake here is taking her girlspeak account of the relationship at face value. What she imagined as "flirting with her a lot" could very well have been nothing. Women always embellish their stories heavily, especially when they are fishing for sympathy or emotional support.

They are angry at the alpha men who spurned them, and since those alphas are inaccessible they are spewing it on twitter to anyone who will will pay them any attention. Their audience is whoever will listen and give them emotional support.

Outstanding summary and post.

I quickly skimmed some of their twitter accounts and noticed an unsurprising pattern of mediocre hipsters, young single moms, wall-approaching single moms.

In other words, a bunch of 6s who if they were less slutty and more pleasant would have at least a shot at a desirable male. Instead, they double down on the whoring and being a cunt.

Regarding the "satire", it's a classic move, especially by women. They'll give you shit, and when you respond they'll say "I'm just kidding, why are you so sensitive". A woman (who has her moments of decency) in my extended social circle does this. I always respond "You're not kidding, don't talk shit to me. And if you do, I shall respond in kind". This is going to surprise everyone, she's a post-wall 38 y/o alpha widow who can't compete with younger, hotter and more pleasant women.

[Mess O.]

@ Gmac - "omega doughboy". Classic. Could be either a solid RVF username, or the latest PC superhero to come out in theaters.

[Silvestroyer]

[Quintus Curtius]

(01-07-2016 09:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 06:54 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

It just goes to show you that single, childless women a long-term danger to society.

Why do you think they're consistently portrayed as evil characters throughout folklore cross-culturally? People noticed the pattern.

You can tell Disney is under SJW control when they start reimagining fairy tales by making the heroine of a fairy tale the Antagonist and trying to 'justify' her evil actions.

This is a great point, and needs to be fully appreciated.

I've thought for a while now that the "witchcraft persecutions" of old Europe had some social cause behind them which is traceable to the disproportionate number of old women in parts of Germany and Northern Europe.

Decades of warfare had resulted in an imbalance of women over the number of men.

And there may--just may--have been a public outburst of hostility to the scheming, games, manipulations, and mischief being caused by bitter, alienated old women.

You'll never find this theory discussed, of course. But there may be something to it.

The book Malleus Maleficarum didn't just come from nowhere. It had some reason for its existence and popularity.

For those who don't know, the Malleus was a manual for the arrest, examination, torture, and prosecution of witches.

These are dangerous thoughts, to be sure, but perhaps worth thinking about.