[thoughtgypsy]

Way to go man. You flew halfway around the world by yourself and now you're killing it over there.

Another thing you can try to get over the sickness is the probiotic drinks. Your local grocer should sell little bottles called yakult. They have contain billions of probiotic cells that will make breaking down food easier and will possibly lessen some of your symptoms.

Also get one of your girls to put some menthol rub on your sinuses. My ex used to carry around a little tin of the stuff and would put it on me whenever I had a headache. I'll take every opportunity to let them treat me like a king.

The sinutabs made me feel drowsy, so I only used them before going to sleep.

I'm still pushing the Tagaytay weekend getaway. The weather there is much more mild, a bit dryer because of the elevation. I think I remember that the Spanish would go there when they got sick to help recover. How much time do you have left?

[Roccker]

G12
She is hoot. She cooks for me. First we buy at supermarket. No big connection or teasing there, but well. We cook, we eat, it’s great meal. She has a greeeat butt.

After meal we ‚watch television‘ and i try to escalate. I find her trigger to escalate seems to be insulting me, then me ‚going cracy‘ and tickling her and grabbing her and kissing her. She goes into bathroom and changes from skirt to hotpants! Her ass is even hotter now, well.

At some point we get into bed. Before she orders some wine to drink. What follows is weird sex. She only takes necessary parts of for entering into pussy. She stops me from going down on her. She seemed to like the (missionary) fucking. When i wanted to change position to doggy for that magnificent ass, she wouldn’t have it. And she said enough sex for now. Ok

She asked me if i came, i said no. We go back to tv, i stay naked. Later we have a bit more real talk, about siblings and dream country and something, and about former relationships, what i like about my body, what i like about hers. I ask about her not liking sex, she says it’s just something that is one thing you just do.. she is not a fan, which is a shame. I ask her if she slept with me because i am european, she said noo

At the end on the goodbye she says ‚cuu‘,we will see

There was also some other girl that wanted to have some wine to drink, but i forgot who it was. I guess it’s a sign they don’t really want sex but do it for me or something.




G13 am in love
I tell her about philippino time in chat and she says she will be on time. Then i come late – so a bit bad start.
On first sight she is not superhot, and in messages she said ‚only coffee, ok?‘. She seems upper class, talking about plane rides she had.

I was in cracy good mood. Just talking what i wanted, felt really good in the moment, uncensored, enjoying what i say. I was getting friendship vibe in beginning, so i thought this is just a fun meeting but no seduction.

We go from bit philosophical and political topics (she seems very smart to me) to filipinocupid experiences and i tell her many things / many things came up, including that i just fucked a girl 15 minutes before, how that sex was, how different girls were, that i basically had about one girl every day, that i will meet a girl tomorrow. At this point i am thinking i was too open, there is certainly no way to sleep with this girl now.

She does stuff like coughing while saying ‚whore‘, she cracks me up, sometimes we both burst out laughing. I am outragous, she is outragous, it’s like we are both the coolest people on the planet or something .

She tells me she had only 4 lovers and last sex was like more than 1 year ago and she doesn’t miss it, sex is sacred to her.

Later i am more looking at her body, sexual innuendos. At one point there was some occassion for dirty talk roleplay where i did ‚tell her‘ what i did with other girl. There was a turning point where she got nervous when i looked her in the eyes. I pushed for going for a walk. And she had heels on and was scared to stand up because i said i like small girls before. This seems like a total change to the beginning of the date. I tell her i will go out of the coffeeplace and she can go to toilet and change her shoes.

Outside I give her kiss on cheek, she gives back. She blocks having my arm around her hips while walking first, later she accepts it. It’s time to go home.

I route her to my place instead oft he taxi place. She asks if she can get taxi there, she can. Being there i ask if she wants to take a look at the view from my condo. Before i tell her about chocolate, to only remember while saying that i told her that i use chocolate to lure girls into my condo . She thinks 2 seconds and says yes.

On the balcony i escalate, we go onto bed, we escalate more, she reaally gets into it, but she is on first day of period she says. She has a sensitive necks, she says i am gonna make her cum just by this alone. She strokes my cock and says it’s good to feel it after such a long time. I am haaappy .

Why did this one feel so good? I felt a connection – it’s because i told her so much, like most of the hardcore things in this thread, and because she is so cool.
I felt like it was more of ‚me‘ that attracted her – less the white guy persona. Could be an illusion, but it felt that way. Interesting topic, what i/we like to be liked for.

Somehow i feel a tiny bit dirty right now putting this all on the net.

[CleanSlate]

Loving your posts. Keep it on coming! I feel like I'm reliving my first trip vicariously through you!

[Roccker]

Solid daygame attempt
Yesterday when i was on date with g13 i got something on the counter for me and in the queue i was flirting with a girl and at the end i gave her my phone number, so that was cool, but she didn't text.

Today one girl flakes, other cancels. Time for: Online dating - it is / feels like business work.

Hot girl knows whats up
Text someone and she is so hot that i kinda did not message in the first week, thinking i get some practice with other girls first. She is from Manila - i am thinking somehow the hot party girls are all more in Makati? Well. She phones me quickly and asks how many girls i have already fucked in my condo, she knows the game. And that she met some swedish guy here (please pm if it's you ) who is a 'jerk', probably meaning he had sex but no relationship.

Other hot girl from Makati i was thinking i fuck her worldclass, but she does not get emotionally attached at all, sent no message at all. I'll see if she even answers when i text her next week.

[Roccker]

1h daygame while i was shopping for stuff i needed.
Some real daygame attempts here.
Did one ‚hello, what are you selling? You are cute‘ – she says ‚Thank you Sir!‘ like i just said ‚you have a nice shop here‘. Did not go further but good first step.

Second i did ‚you are cute‘, then asking something, then ‚are you single‘. She said she has bf.

I shopped for socks and there were like 3 girls and 1 guy ‚helping me‘ choose. It was a very fun vibe.

Mother daugher, both sexy, i say ‚hi‘ when walking by, then they stop and pretend to be interested in the shop right there. Then they recognize i don’t speak to them and they start walking again. Too slow too much ‚gotta be good what i say‘ thinking.

Later one shopping assistant girl really stared and smile at me. I go there after i try my shirt. I say hey how are you doing, she asks me where i am from, i say that she is cute. I ask for number, she says she can give me fb. She says she is single. I do like i have secret with her and come back and give her sheet with ‚you are cute + number + say hi! I wanna text with you!‘.

I ask security guard something, i ogle shopping assistent next to him and she lights up, i go away and i always look back every 10 metres and she also looks and this like 3 times. 15min later i come back, she giggles, i give her sheet as above.

So 2 sheets with i would think big chance of success, but no, they don’t write me. I guess this approach 'doesn't work', well at least not very good. Better: stay there longer, flirt longer, more solid close? At least getting her phone number somehow.
I guess giggling and looking is not the same as wanting to go on date with me.

[Onto]

Roccker, it can take time for them to reach out. A whole week could go by before they do. Always good to get there info too of you can.

[Roccker]

Sickness Cold
I start the morning with self-pity that i am sick . Aargh. And ‚should have’s‘ (should have put pyjama on at night). I have a bit high temperature and exhaustion, then there was added sore throat that i still have, then there was running nose added (i nearly die licking girls) and now i start to cough. And the irony is, i hate that in my own country (where i get it in winter, cause it’s coooold), tried to flee it, and then i got it here. Ok, i just looked it up, coughing is the ‚last step‘. This whole thing should last about 10 days and i am on about day 5.

In the Medicine shops you just tell the guy what you have (eg cold) and then he looks it up in computer it seems, and you buy single pills (in original blister though) for a few pesos, like eg 10 pesos per pill (i bought 2 aspirin aspilets 80mg and 5 tabs phynylephrine hci paracetamol).
I have some zink supplements with me, i take that everyday since the beginning.
Bought and wear long socks and longsleeves now.

By the way, Thanks everybody who joined in this thread with comment(s) (and everybody who will do )
If you read anything and some emotion or thought comes up, please don’t hesitate to (quote the part and) make a little comment, also from the posts loong before. It’s always interesting and makes this journaling more fun for me, it’s like telling a story to a guy who has a blank face all time versus telling a story to a guy where you see his emotional reaction on the different story parts.
(If you have an idea or wish to my writing/posting just pm me, i will at least read it)

Btw another hot chick is from Makati. I guess hot experienced women who have tinder are more from Makati. I thought i have advantage in QC being nearly the only white guy. But now they come from Makati up here..

Am in the process of asking some girls that i already know what they are doing silvester, i would like to find a group to enjoy it with, let’s see how that turns out. Worst case i found one bar that is superclose to me, it’s basically in the mall, but outside.

[Il Bersagliere]

I thought daygame was supposed to be easy and straightforward here. Either way Roccker, I love your field reports and am glad you're having a great time.

[rdp]

Love reading your reports Roccker; makes me wanna go to the Philippines.
Good luck

[Vacancier Permanent]

Entertaining reports Roccker!
Yeah be careful with all the girls you're kissing and kicking sooner or later you'll get something. Get meds, get a girl to be your private nurse and you will be treated like a king!

By the way, by Sylvester do you mean on Saint Sylvester day which is December 31?

Are you noticing a difference in reaction, openeness, friendliness and femininity between the girls in say Makati versus those in QC? I'm also seeing quite a few sweeties online on QC and Pasig.

Keep it my friend!

[Roccker]

Well, i am the one spreading the cold germs..
I just had the thought that hot experienced women are from Makati, but that was only like 2 females where it was the case, so no ‚big‘ observation.

Daygame get better. Do 4 asking for the way as warmups. Some girls are very distant. One gives me a supersweet smile after ‚hi‘ but i am too slow to say something. Go in a shop, ask her something, tell her she is cute, try it on, ask her if she is single, tell her i get her number then, i let her type it in, she answers text next day, i feel heroic
Nearly did the same while i was waiting for G14, but she texted ‚i am here‘ and i didn’t want to risk it.

G14
She is hungry, i say i cooked something, no resistance at going to condo. She is hot. We eat.
She somehow gets idea i only met one girl, i don’t correct her. We watch television. She evades kiss. She is virgin. We go to bed to lie down a bit. It’s getting late, we get ready for bed, i get naked. She says wow, she has never seen a penis before. She says ‚no sex‘ i say ok. Later i tell her i wanna lick her. She tells me i can do everything, but no sex. So i lick her, and she gets into it. I also show her vibrator and she likes it a lot. Interestingly i had the feeling as i would have had sex, i guess psychological pleasure for me to pleasure her. She says she is waiting for marriage, thats why she didn’t sleep with her boyfriends.

Except, the story goes on. Somehow it comes up i did not only sleep with one girl but like about 7. And she says she is a bit into bdsm. I play a bit dom, at the end we have sex. She tells me later ‚you did really believe i am virgin? You don’t deserve a virgin‘.
Said i am the best lover she ever had. I just chose to believe that one



I cancel Dates
Girl texts me right from the start that she does not do hookups. Later she texts me ‚you’ll treat me lunch ah.. hehe‘. I answer ‚Oh really.. no hookup, but wanting lunch – I’ll get you a yum ‘ (yum is like cheapest burger in whole mall, from jellybea phil-fastfood). She replies ‚look im noreally for hookup sorry, just find another girl that is ready for that‘. I ‚ok, lets cancel – take care and have a good day!‘.

I cancel another girl that says she is shy and i look at her again and she is not hot.

Ok, New Years Eve = Silvester . There are 2 bars, right at the mall, open air. I’ll just go there alone to meet people and i have condo next to me. On day of new years i find out: they are closed. In my country in europe every shithole opens and can be sure to have more customers than they can serve. In Phil new years is a family party like christmas, not biggest going out day at all it seems (?). Malls close as extra-early as christmas. Had girl set up for later night but she cancelled.

Beach: Puerto Gallera – 2 of my girls went there. It is supposed to be nearest white beach and it’s 4 hours to go there. It is tempting to go there with cool girl but i guess i will go there alone to meet more people. Guess am gonna look in the internet to find a group trip or something.

Rejection?
Girl from tinder liked me, got phone number, chattet on viber, she asked for pictures, i sent 4 best ones, she wants fresh ones, i send her, we have a little cool chat, only next time i ask her if she wants to go for ice cream sometime at mall, she says yes but lets go to yy other place 30minutes away, i say i better stay at my mall and i text her when i am ready to come, we chat bit more, that she is non neediest self confident person i met her, she asks about other girls, i say they are eager to meet, she says also all guys are eager to meet but i am lazy, i tell her i will send her message next week, she says no, she lost interest. -> I feel like home, i forgot what ‚rejection‘ looks and feels like


G15
She was taller but great to talk to, she flies internationally all the time for work. It’s very weird, i go superslow, but it still hurts her. I tell her i fuck her anal instead and it goes great. Later she tells me she was virgin. She was in catholic school and catholic group in university, i think she was 28. Second round went much better. Later she sent me text thanking me for being great and being just what she needed and wished all the best.

G3
Once again. I do the talking. I try but she is not up for it. We meet middle of the night cause she works in call center. I sleep in escalating, i sleep soo good in this country somehow. In the morning after the night it happens.

G16
She is 4‘9 or 4’11, she does not know which. Supercute tiny. Tshirt ‚Black guys love me‘. I am 1 hour late because was with other girl and lost time, i told her i was drunk and mobile died. Anyway she is still great. Meeting up as nearly always is cracy business ‚where are you? – i am here! (she means she is at the mall. It’s fucking big) I stay on the phone finding out first area and then specific shop and then where exactly in the shop till i see her in person.
She is happy supersmall girl. Cute and fond of me. She decides to go to my place to eat leftovers. Sex is great.



Then first flake in phil where she didn’t even say a thing (later ‚sorry, we had to prepare for new years‘).



Some girl, i forgot which, told me she was in contact with a spanish guy and she was in love but then he found some girl there and she was heartbroken.

Another mystery is why they chose me to take their virginity. I guess it's a very calculated move, like they are deciding to lose their virginity by going on date with me? It's just being attractive as a foreigner and perhaps the stereotype that we 'close'? Also not much data, just some thoughts wandering.

I realize i will go home soon. Next week is already full of dates, in the week after i am already going home.
I have 4 girls that i extra liked. Texting them right now, so i see them once more before i am gone.
With one i will... leave the mall and take a bit of a look around .

Also what i guess i would like to do: Going out in a group. I guess with one of the girls (because safer/ i don't know my way around.. well), i would like it to be the girl that wanted to hook me up.
Don't know if i manage to do / will want to do the beach thing.

[thoughtgypsy]

I love it. One girl is telling you "nooo I'm a virgin" and turns out to be a freak in bed. Another is actually a virgin and trying to hide it from you. Bitches can't be trusted!

[RawGod]

(12-31-2015 12:07 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

I love it. One girl is telling you "nooo I'm a virgin" and turns out to be a freak in bed. Another is actually a virgin and trying to hide it from you. Bitches can't be trusted!

This happens a lot in SEA! Many of them lie for no apparent reason, about anything, age, height, virginity/non-virginity, whatever. Just have to laugh and take in stride like OP is doing.

[Roccker]

G16 (met her yesterday, stay in contact with her) asks me stuff like if i have eaten my breakfast and stuff, that a woman has to ‚take care‘ of me. This style i often.
At the date after sex she was surprised when i said i wanted to see her again. She seemed experienced.

Another girl tells me that suddenly 6pm is 'too late', so it's cancelled.

G17 came 3 hours late, was not so good looking. In the beginning of the trip i did not care, but now i already raised my standards automatically it seems. I was having a lot of fun with her because i just self-amused (self-amusement seems always great, but it’s easier for me to do when i don’t want anything from other person and feel like the prize i guess). I had fun shocking her. She was also not up for sex. I went shopping with her for something i wanted anyway, but then there were these cute shopping assistents helping me out and i felt hindered to flirt with them (these girls thought she is gf) i said goodbye to her. Later she texts thanks for the good time and all the best for my stay.

G11
Virgin, last time nearly deflowered and eager to learn stuff, but this time she is not up for losing her virginity, well. I let her sleep and go to computer making dates with other girls and writing this post and stuff.

Daygame. Now rocks. One ask for the way, then get more direct. Get three numbers from shopping assistants i really like. It’s not ‚ask all girls where you can get a boner‘ but ‚while i ask them i literally get a boner‘. I asked i guess 6 in total. The non-successes are shy distant skeptical or happy but have boyfriend. Eye contact with teenagers, giggling, finally they open me and ask me for a picture. One daygame open is her with family, me eye contact, they giddy, later she is alone and i approach her. One girl i literally just follow and wait next to her while she phones – but this one the boyfriend was next by. Also another time bf few metres away, did not get those.

It was late afternoon and i still haven’t eaten that day, i tell myself i will not eat till i find a girl to join me. Now i couldn’t go for stationary sales personell. This was the phase where the thing with the 2 boyfriends above happened. Also always mothers or daughters or boyfriends around it seems. I guess i walked around 1-1,5 hours and did not succeed in this task.

Daygame:
Great to see her right in front of you. And approaching is more fun and fulfilling then messaging.
But i gotta answer all the same questions by text if i do a qick number close. (Wherebye online she reads all the info and then decides to write me in spite of all that eg me being here only till middle january)

I guess no beach for me. Puerto Gallera is a 2day trip + getting up superearly and time to plan and sign up and stuff. Choose women instead. Although it’s getting slightly weird telling them i have been nowhere but at the mall

[aeroektar]

Enjoying the progress of your reports, making me want to fly there baaaaaad

[Roccker]

G11 virgin yesterday specifically said she likes white dudes because she wants mixed baby.

Wait for G18 and met a cool 16 year old to chat to while i do.

G18 is 1,5 hours philippino late. I made the mistake of thinking her text ‚ok, i am ready now‘ 3 minutes before our time of meeting actually means she is already there. It meant she just starts coming there, from home. She is 18 and hot. I get her to come to the pool area, but she says she does not go into my condo altough i am very casual. I ask if she is virgin, she does not tell. She says she never had bf, so i guess she is. She says next time she can bring a friend and then we can come to condo. I think i will pass. Later on she texts she is not a virgin, this makes me want to invite her more.



Argh. Next girl: i wrote her ‚but i can only stay till 8pm, then we have to say goodbye‘. She somehow misunderstands me cancelling the date and does not come. Argh. Always with philippinas I am like the superclearest i can be in communication, simple, and i repeat stuff, but every additional info is danger of being cracily misinterpreted or whatever. It’s a bit baffling to me.

G19
Girl from daygame, she works every day like from 9am till 10pm or something, then goes home to her 6 year old son where the father is not there cause he is with another women he impregnated. We eat for 30minutes and then she has to go travel home like an hour. She has like one off-day in the week, but she does not know when. When she has off-day she laundries her cloth and cleans the house.

G20
Another one from daygame, works also cracy like the other girl and also has a child, a 4 year old. Raises it with her mum who is also alone. Her ex-boyfriend was hitting her. I just visited her at work and spent some time with her cleaning everything up.

Daygame
Ask 3 shopping assistants for number, i get one -> the one i gave my sheet with number on some days ago but that didn't write me. She gives me number, but then writes back that her husband doesn’t like that she entertains other men.

I go to clothing shop where there was a very cute shopping assistant. I was there like one or 2 days ago with another girl as date who was not so attractive. Then day after that i went by and looked in but i did not see the cutie. Now going in the third time i was looking, i realize every single one of the like 12 shopping assistants in there ‚knows‘ who i am. A self confident one starts to talk ‚what are you looking for sir‘, i say ‚for love‘, and the banter begins. It’s all big fun, but that’s not a way to get numbers, the place was basically already burnt by everyone recognizing me.

I go out, and here i later felt a bit shame: out of the shop there is a superhottie. I tell her she is cute. She says she is also from the shop. I ask for her number, but she is apalled. Somehow i guess she is apalled because she was not first choice, or of course now she can’t go for the white guy who roams around trying to get with all the girls, even if it's just jokingly.

Nightgame
Well.. just went to the bar in shopping mall, this time it has open till 5am and there is a band there.
One girl in sitting 3set points me to sit down with them. She is hot and funny but she is the taken one. Later 2 girls dance on dance floor and i join them. Later i dance with like 6 girls and a guy. We have fun, but later when it’s over, it’s just over. I ‚should‘ sit next to them but there is no space. In dancing i asked 2 or 3 if they are single, there was no clear signal/answer from them. At the end of the whole thing i asked one girl to point out a girl that is looking for a boyfriend and she points one out for me. But she sits in the middle of the group. Later i sing on stage, you can give 100 pesos and do that. Drinks are like 2 euros, about half or third the price in my country central europe.

Rejections don’t matter somehow
Ask 2 set how they are, UG of them makes a disgusted face, i just go but no emotions come up (not like at home). I think i internalized that somehow i just have worth. Also on dancing at some point in time a big philippino guy dances me up in a bit aggressive manner. I so just don’t have any emotional reaction.

With all this non-sex i am tempted to contact an older girl that was very compliant.

[CleanSlate]

(01-02-2016 02:37 PM)Roccker Wrote:  

Argh. Next girl: i wrote her ‚but i can only stay till 8pm, then we have to say goodbye‘. She somehow misunderstands me cancelling the date and does not come. Argh. Always with philippinas I am like the superclearest i can be in communication, simple, and i repeat stuff, but every additional info is danger of being cracily misinterpreted or whatever. It’s a bit baffling to me.

Keep in mind that although they seem fluent in English, they are actually not. It's like their second language. Although they speak it well, some English words don't translate well into Tagalog (their default language). You're right to be super clear in your communication.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing English isn't your first language either. So that might compound this problem a little bit.

Keep rocking on, Roccker.

[Slay it Forward]

It's also not Roccker's first language but he understands everything perfectly fine. I've traveled all over the world communicating to people whose first language is not English but only in the Phillipines did I have the super frustrating communication problems described above.

Must be something else at play, hmmmm

[Putin Closes]

The fact that you are actually day gaming gives you some major props. Finding upper class girls who are open to be "hit on" by a stranger is quite tough, if not impossible, especially since they usually are not traveling solo. Hence, my undying love for Tinder here.

But I feel like when all the shop workers checking me out and smiling, lots of potential targets if that's the look you prefer. Once you have a nice little harem set up, you'll see yourself start nexting the 5/6 you see during the daytime, the wonders of a pussy paradise.

[thoughtgypsy]

(01-03-2016 10:14 AM)Slay it Forward Wrote:  

It's also not Roccker's first language but he understands everything perfectly fine. I've traveled all over the world communicating to people whose first language is not English but only in the Phillipines did I have the super frustrating communication problems described above.

Must be something else at play, hmmmm

The Philippines is not a Western country. There are cultural aspects and certain customs that are more nuanced, and can be confusing to westerners. As westerners, we were raised under a different worldview. There are many things we say and do that we've come to accept, and we take certain behavior for granted. We do them without requiring explanation because we've always done them, and we can't see the forest from the trees.

Knowing that, and knowing that the Philippines is not a Western European country, acknowledging these differences is the first step towards forming a mutual understanding. Exposure to the Spanish, Chinese, and Anglos influenced the native Micronesian Malays and made an impact on their culture. However, the underlying nature of Malays hasn't changed, and certain cultural aspects, biological inclinations, and how they interpret the world has remained resilient throughout hundreds of years. I don't expect it to change any time soon. Rather than get frustrated by it, it would do you well to make an attempt at trying to understand their perspective.

Face is an important concept to them. You may get frustrated by the lies, but to them it's more important to be polite than to be honest. It is part of their warm nature and sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. To them, westerners are often considered to be too frank. If you meet me in person, I would expect you to consider me to be extremely respectful and considerate, yet I've also been called tackless by a Filipina before. It is something that takes time to adjust for.

If you'll allow me to make an abstract analogy, a Westerner is like an office building, and a Filipino is like a beach. One is meant purely for business, is highly productive, and sacrifices charm for stability and wealth. Another is meant for sensuality, warmth, and relaxation. Perhaps this is why the allure between Pinays and male Westerners is so common. To them, they appreciate the honesty, faithfulness, and responsibility of Westerner males. To us, coming home to the warmth and comfort of a Pinay is a refreshing escape after a long day at a stressful office.

Before I start waxing on romantically about the Philippines, I'll get back to your situation. I would venture a guess that the girl's response may have been a combination of impulsiveness and face. Filipinos can be very impulsive people. One minute she may be down to come to your condo and smash, the next minute she may feel offended for reasons not obvious to you, or she will watch an episode of Be Careful with my Heart and decide now she wants a relationship. You can't win them all, but luckily there's many out there. Don't spend too much energy worrying about it, and know that ultimately what isn't meant to be isn't meant to be.

But there may be some things you can do that would increase your chances. Unlike the west, being polite can work for you (and to be clear, this should not be confused with being a push over). My attitude with Filipinos is to be firm and have a backbone, while at the same time being polite and respectful. Sometimes it's not about what you say and how clearly you say it, but how you say it, and how it makes her feel. She might be offended when you say you have to kick her out before 8pm and decide not to waste her time on you. In that case, it might work better to say "Just to let you know we can't spend all night together. I'm on a deadline and I have to get some work done later. But I wanna spend time with you even if we have a only few hours tonight." Which is true, gaming other women can involve work sometimes, and you're on a deadline because you have to fly back soon. That's my male hamster logic at work, how I convince myself that it's not lying. It may also help to keep certain details to yourself and be open ended so they don't get scared off. I know I just got done saying "don't spend too much energy worrying about it" and then proceeded to write a long paragraph about it, but I'm just telling you this for future reference.

Taking time to understand and decipher their worldview is a rewarding endeavor and will pay dividends later. It will only increase your success with Pinays, and help you land higher quality. I'd like to recommend the following books for anyone who hasn't had the chance to immerse themselves fully in the culture.

Culture Shock! Philippines


Pretty self explanatory. This book helps explain some of the cultural differences between the Philippines and the west, geared towards a Westerner. It is loaded with information and very readable. You can learn a ton of insight simply by reading a few pages at a time. Take the blue pill and overly romantic stuff with a grain of salt. You don't want to be the guy wearing the "My wife is perfect" shirt BB described in the Philippines thread.

Dead Season by Alan Berlow


A fictional story that actually provides immense insight into what it's like to be Filipino. It follows the archetype of show, don't tell. The fictional story is a jumping off point to illustrate the fears, aspirations, and day to day life of Filipinos within vastly different social classes. You will come to understand the quiet desperation of poor indentured servants, slaving away on rice farms because of a system of exploitation of multi-generational debt. You will come to understand the rage behind the decimation of families, and the revenge killings that encourage the clannishness within their society. Some reviewers have claimed that this book is racist, but personally, it has helped me empathize greatly with the situation of poor Filipinos.

In addition to learning about the way Filipinos think, I would also strongly encourage that you learn their history. Middle and upper class Filipinos are usually easier to understand than the average Filipino. Their lifestyles are closer approximations to what we experience, and they lack the impulsiveness common to many Filipinos. They are often better educated, and can provide the intellectual stimulation that is so uncommon in the Philippines. This is where you can find the highest quality women. Additionally, you avoid many of the downsides you'd experience with lower class Pinays, and you won't be expected to help out their family financially.

Because the Philippines is a protectionist economy rife with corruption, it is a huge benefit to know powerful people. Connections can help cut through a lot of the red tape and help you to meet people that will make your life easier and more comfortable. I am just now breaking into their circles, and knowing their history and customs has played a huge role in being accepted as "one of them". No matter what walks of life they come from, Filipinos are proud of their culture and history, and knowing some of it as a westerner will greatly endear them to you. By far, the best book I've read on Filipino history is:

In Our Image by Stanley Karnow


By far the most comprehensive history book I've ever read. The author does an excellent job at telling their history in a compelling way. It reads more like a gripping drama than a dry history book. As someone who went to school with the Late Ninoy Aquino, his insight into the inner workings of the Philippines is first hand and priceless.

Learning more about the Philippines will only improve your experiences there. Filipino hospitality is legendary, and this will only encourage it. As I mentioned, this has been a huge part for me being accepted in the higher social circles. It's something I'm still working on, but once I've had enough experience to feel confident about the information, I'll consider dropping a data sheet on it.

[Roccker]

[did not read the culture bit yet]

G21 cool
Begin was ok. At pool we had a bit fun, i was just a biiit escalating her. I ask her ‚you wanna watch me cook‘ we go up and handhold happens, yee. She is so fucking cool. She has so many cool stories, she is a confident woman that is just fucking cool. Her stories how she behaves in private and at work, her mannerisms, her curses. She asks me about all the girls i had sex with. I tell her. She likes it, it’s interesting. She thinks girls saying they are virgins and wanting a mixed baby is the cracyest thing, also being devirginized by guy on the internet. She says she doesn’t do the casual sex thing. She says she is non-jealous. I escalate a while while standing behind her on the balcony. Finally neck kiss sticked. She came soo easily and so often and shaking, it’s fucking sexy. Felt bad lying about my job. I shouldn’t have done it to her perhaps. But it was like automatic. And it gives excuse for having to go.

G19
Ok, in daygame it looked great – she is superhot and compliant. But in reality she is a shy superhard working girl that never sees her child (that is raised by her mother in the provence) for a whole year cause she never has more than one day off. And her only bf before beat her up. And she hardly speaks. That is not fun. And doing hit and run there, hm. She does stuff like hugging extra tight instead of french kiss.
She went home with me, but only to hangout a bit instead of overnighting. Do i want to even fuck this girl. It will take forever of lmr and she will not be good. I already reminded her that i am on vacation and going home again.

Another 2 flakes. In the beginning days i thought ‚great, all girls come‘, now only recently, flakes all over the place. Well, 1 out of 3 it seemed in the last days.

I am tummy sick again, this is a bad joke. Don’t know what bad thing i did. Anyway i feel not good and only banana, rice and mineral water now, hope it’s over soon.

G22
I buy something supermarket, go home. Handhold yes, but no kissclose. Late i lay down, she lies next to me. Later i say it’s hot and get naked. She is like ‚omg, i am not your boyfriend‘. And that she has period. She has a lot of stuff packed down there in underwear, so i guess it’s accurate.

G23
One girl from daygame texted me sorry she is married, then a friend of her texted me. I meet her, she is nice, we go karaoke, she is in love mode. Later lie next to her, tell her i sometimes meet and sex girls in austria, and that i also had a philippino here. She says she had sex only one time. I ask her if she has been licked, some time later escalating we get to that, she comes. She has never seen a condom. We have sex, later she says it was her first time. Later we talk a bit about this and that and babies and come to a point where she wants me to cum inside her, ‚she will just raise kid without me‘. I don’t do it . She is 28 and ‚other girls have babies with 15‘.

481 pesos per day (10 euros) she says is the minimum wage.

G19
She comes with 3 girlfriends, she asked me before. So i had 4 in my little condo. They cook adobo and talk tagalong and watch television and take selfies and pictures. They go in the early morning, in the morning after sleeping i have sex with her. Sex does hurt for her, although i let her move, her last sex was 2 years. I lick her, she never had that before.

G24
Is not philippino genes. She buys food for me and buys me Lambanog -> philippine made alcohol made out of coconut. I can import 1 litre of this and i guess i’ll do it. We don’t have much time, but i guess i want to see her again.

Anything else to take home from the philippines as a suvenir? I guess no seashells or stuff, they get taken by costums.

[the Thing]

^^
What a coincidence it is that no girl in the Philippines has had sex in at least the last 6 months. And somehow they're all on birth control and it's OK to come inside.

One chick that I saw making out and then leaving with someone the previous night, told me she didn't have sex in a year. I told her that I saw her and she kept lying to my face.

[Il Bersagliere]

Damn! A country where every girl is a virgin? Pinch me, I must be dreaming.

[Putin Closes]

(01-05-2016 07:17 AM)the Thing Wrote:  

^^
What a coincidence it is that no girl in the Philippines has had sex in at least the last 6 months. And somehow they're all on birth control and it's OK to come inside.

One chick that I saw making out and then leaving with someone the previous night, told me she didn't have sex in a year. I told her that I saw her and she kept lying to my face.

Never trust a girl you meet online. Especially on Filipino Cupid.

These are girls who would make a wage of like $10-20 a day, who live in a crappy shack / house in Manila, who don't have AC.

Weird on the BC issue, never got it once, almost all insisted I finish outside. Don't believe a word what they say, they are trying to get pregnant to hopefully guilt trip you into child support hell. Even $200 a month is one hell of a salary "bonus" they will share with their family instead of raising the kid.

[CleanSlate]

When I was in PI last April, girls were telling me that I was only the "second" guy they've been with.

Now they are claiming to be virgins and on BC?

They must be trading girl game notes on how to snag a foreigner.