Milk, apples, Toblerone, honey? All food for the rich man in the Philippines. Try rice, fish, eggs, local vegetables. You can eat for a couple of dollars a day eating like the locals.
Dr Johnson rumbles with the RawGod. And lives to regret it.
Philippines Journal-Diary of a Noob (Metro Manila)
Quote: (12-21-2015 06:06 AM)Roccker Wrote:
My money runs out fast. Started with 800euro, now already spent 250euro, which is totally unbelievable to me.
I actually did not bring so much clothes, thinking they are much cheaper here and i will buy them here.
But h+m in central europe is as cheap it seems.
All these are actually cheaper in my supermarket at home if i remember correctly:
2 euros for 4 apples (ok, this is special because they are imported of course, bad example, still i wanted to buy it)
Good milk1,5euro
Small honey4 euros
Toblerone chocolate 4 euros
1 pair of socks 2,5 euro
Bathing trunks30 euro (1500 pesos) (omg i was stupid, did not calculate price here; the other one was 2000, this was the ‚cheaper‘ one and i did not calculate, just asked my philipina if it’s pricey, she said it’s normal, well)
Shaving cream4 euro
Bottle of red wine4,5 euro
As said the food is about half the price.
If i remember correctly a cheeseburger is 50 pesos = 1 euro, a cheeseburger is also 1 euro in my country.
I guess supermarkets are pricey.
What is actually cheap? I guess tricycles and jeepneys. Hotels i guess.
You're buying imported shit, eating at McDonalds and taking your dates there every day and then you wonder why your money is running out quickly . *facepalm*
If you're on a limited budget, why would you do any of that?
Just speed-read the huge Philippines thread. Unless of course you love learning through trial-by-fire
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. Well, at least you're an action taker unlike most people...
Chipping in regarding the taxi scams at Manila Airport. Both times I landed in Manila I arrived at terminal 3. At arrivals downstairs there are two types of taxis, and neither of them are the regular cheaper white ones.
If you take a taxi here, the cheaper option is to use the yellow metered taxi. It has a higher meter price then the regular metered taxis, but is still cheap by western standards. It is the white taxis outside arrivals which will rip you off. These are not regular white taxis! These guys only use a fixed price that depends on where you are going. All these fixed prices are double or triple price compared to the yellow metered taxis and were listed on a pillar next to the cars if i remember correctly. It is basically a scam that prays on the fact that there are far too few yellow taxis to go around, so the line is very long at all times, and it is very hot and humid outside as you know.
To get a regular white metered taxi, you should not take a taxi at arrivals, but at DEPARTURES (according to the information on forum, I didn't know about this myself when I was there). So you need to go from arrivals to departures rather than directly out from arrivals.
If you take a taxi here, the cheaper option is to use the yellow metered taxi. It has a higher meter price then the regular metered taxis, but is still cheap by western standards. It is the white taxis outside arrivals which will rip you off. These are not regular white taxis! These guys only use a fixed price that depends on where you are going. All these fixed prices are double or triple price compared to the yellow metered taxis and were listed on a pillar next to the cars if i remember correctly. It is basically a scam that prays on the fact that there are far too few yellow taxis to go around, so the line is very long at all times, and it is very hot and humid outside as you know.
To get a regular white metered taxi, you should not take a taxi at arrivals, but at DEPARTURES (according to the information on forum, I didn't know about this myself when I was there). So you need to go from arrivals to departures rather than directly out from arrivals.
Food is cheap, if you eat the local food. Milk, honey, Toblerone, red wine... you're importing your diet from back home to a completely different culture, of course it's expensive for you.
Americans are dreamers too
Roccker, here are some of my favorite Filipino foods:
- Beef kare kare: It's basically a beef and vegetable stew where the beef is slow cooked in a peanut butter sauce. Very savory and delicious.
- Tapas: Don't know exactly what it is, but if I had to guess, beef cooked in a sweet/salty marinade
- Bistek: Similar to above, but less sweet(?)
- Sisig: perfect drinking food. Don't ask what's in it.
- Pork/Chicken adobo: Salty, savory meat. Delicious.
- Caldereta: meat, potatoes and vegetables in a thick red sauce.
- Longanisa and Tocino: filipino sausages.
- Lumpia: Fried meat wrapped in dough. Avoid if your stomach is iffy.
You can also find a ton of interesting exotic fruit at the local grocery store that make for good snacks in between meals.
You should be able to find reasonably priced Filipino cuisine in most malls. Look for the ones where you stand in line to order instead of the sit down variety. I used to go to a local place and get a delicious and hearty tocilog (sausage, eggs, garlic rice) breakfast for what was $2 at the time.
There was another place that served meat and rice wrapped in a banana leaf for almost no money. Delicious and not so unhealthy. I forget the name of the place, unfortunately.
Also, not Filipino cuisine but the Korean food in the Philippines in incredible. Usually a bit on the more expensive side, but really good. Lots of Koreans go to Phil to study English, so the Korean food here is on point.
If you want cheap clothes, the divisoria has a good selection. I've heard pickpocketing is common there when it gets busy, so be aware. Probably better to wait until after Christmas to go. I got 2 decent pairs of shoes, one of which I still use from there for less than $10. It might not be worth your time, most of the clothes are garbage quality. A lot of the stuff sold there is of questionable quality, made by the very cheapest Chinese labor. Most likely the stuff they tried selling in US/Europe but couldn't meet the health standards.
If you're not traveling far, I think trikes are a better option. If you're not bringing anything valuable on you, or you're traveling with a filipina you're reasonably comfortable with, you can use the jeepneys for a cheap alternative. Probably not worth the savings, but an interesting experience to try at least once. Remember to say "buyet po".
- Beef kare kare: It's basically a beef and vegetable stew where the beef is slow cooked in a peanut butter sauce. Very savory and delicious.
- Tapas: Don't know exactly what it is, but if I had to guess, beef cooked in a sweet/salty marinade
- Bistek: Similar to above, but less sweet(?)
- Sisig: perfect drinking food. Don't ask what's in it.
- Pork/Chicken adobo: Salty, savory meat. Delicious.
- Caldereta: meat, potatoes and vegetables in a thick red sauce.
- Longanisa and Tocino: filipino sausages.
- Lumpia: Fried meat wrapped in dough. Avoid if your stomach is iffy.
You can also find a ton of interesting exotic fruit at the local grocery store that make for good snacks in between meals.
You should be able to find reasonably priced Filipino cuisine in most malls. Look for the ones where you stand in line to order instead of the sit down variety. I used to go to a local place and get a delicious and hearty tocilog (sausage, eggs, garlic rice) breakfast for what was $2 at the time.
There was another place that served meat and rice wrapped in a banana leaf for almost no money. Delicious and not so unhealthy. I forget the name of the place, unfortunately.
Also, not Filipino cuisine but the Korean food in the Philippines in incredible. Usually a bit on the more expensive side, but really good. Lots of Koreans go to Phil to study English, so the Korean food here is on point.
If you want cheap clothes, the divisoria has a good selection. I've heard pickpocketing is common there when it gets busy, so be aware. Probably better to wait until after Christmas to go. I got 2 decent pairs of shoes, one of which I still use from there for less than $10. It might not be worth your time, most of the clothes are garbage quality. A lot of the stuff sold there is of questionable quality, made by the very cheapest Chinese labor. Most likely the stuff they tried selling in US/Europe but couldn't meet the health standards.
If you're not traveling far, I think trikes are a better option. If you're not bringing anything valuable on you, or you're traveling with a filipina you're reasonably comfortable with, you can use the jeepneys for a cheap alternative. Probably not worth the savings, but an interesting experience to try at least once. Remember to say "buyet po".
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Me buying stuff that i am used to, that is like the cheapest option in my country (eg honey, apples, milk) of course is not the best good price option in this country on the other side of the world
I guess i paid in about 100 euros in all in scams and buying pricey stuff and eating out a lot, i will make peace with that.
Project cheaper from information here:
-Ask supermarket guy and girls what really cheap food options are
Written here: rice, fish, eggs, local vegetables/fruits (oranges, mango, green mango)
-Look at mall and find filipino cuisine stand (not sit in) and look for:
Beef kare kare, Tapas, Bistek, Pork/Chicken adobo, Caldereta, Longanisa and Tocino, Lumpia
Or Korean food
-Girls shall cook at my place with stuff they bring (and i give them some money)
-Cooking at home, inviting girls to cook home instead of to food.. perhaps
-Stopping to give girls transportation money.. i guess i’ll keep doing that
---
G7
Another meetup where the meetup attempt made me go a bit cracy.
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18:00 She says she will be here at 1830
19:05 she says she is near -> i start going there and arrive at 19:15
19:25 she says she is here and is coming up; i tell her to ask security for way cinema 9
19:43 she says she is lost, if i can come to her; 3 minutes later i am at the place where she says (i asked 2 security), she is not there
19:49 she writes back that she is shy, and that she is not sexy, 3 minutes later i find her
She is young but has big tummy, for the sake of it i sleep with her for like 10 minutes, cause as i told her before i have to go at 9pm, did not cum. Before when we were on the computer my 9pm date called me all the time on the computer. Also she wanted lights out. Afterwards while she is with me she sends me text asking money for medicine for her grandmother. Give 100 pesos. This one was more depressing.
G8
imax 3d star wars 9 euros (i thought imax means suuuperbig screen, but it was like normal screen size. The ‚normal‘ cinema i think was 7 or 5 euros)
Went with this date to cinema cause i wanted to see star wars and this was the hottest girl yet. She is sweet to me. After movie go to my place, no excuse needed, but she says she doesn’t want sex. If i can just cuddle or if she has to go now. She sees lipstick all over my shirt, i didn't see it before. She talks about how i can have any girl in mall, just ask them for way to food thing, ask if they want to join you, then get to know and ask them to show condo. Sounds like good plan. Before bed i get naked, she says ‚ooh so long‘- i like this. Her not wanting sex and her also joking about being ladyboy made me think she is ladyboy. In bed at morning i touch her bra, it’s so fat, it’s like a fake breast. I look inside second bra of her and see she has no breast! Ok, i got hard for a ladyboy.
She sleeps like 1,5h longer than me, then she gets up, and omg, i see some real breasts, she is a girl after all. Later on we have sex and i cum quickly, well. She asks for transportation money when we depart, i give her 100 pesos.
Now i have no dates on this day and i am kinda happy. Wanna be alone. Perhaps swim or something. I cook at home and watch some movie while eating. Like at home.
(What i have to figure out is where to get my laundry done, gonna ask receptionist)
@ Antipodean: What do you mean with ‘we’?
Me buying stuff that i am used to, that is like the cheapest option in my country (eg honey, apples, milk) of course is not the best good price option in this country on the other side of the world
I guess i paid in about 100 euros in all in scams and buying pricey stuff and eating out a lot, i will make peace with that.
Project cheaper from information here:
-Ask supermarket guy and girls what really cheap food options are
Written here: rice, fish, eggs, local vegetables/fruits (oranges, mango, green mango)
-Look at mall and find filipino cuisine stand (not sit in) and look for:
Beef kare kare, Tapas, Bistek, Pork/Chicken adobo, Caldereta, Longanisa and Tocino, Lumpia
Or Korean food
-Girls shall cook at my place with stuff they bring (and i give them some money)
-Cooking at home, inviting girls to cook home instead of to food.. perhaps
-Stopping to give girls transportation money.. i guess i’ll keep doing that
---
G7
Another meetup where the meetup attempt made me go a bit cracy.
18:00 She says she will be here at 1830
19:05 she says she is near -> i start going there and arrive at 19:15
19:25 she says she is here and is coming up; i tell her to ask security for way cinema 9
19:43 she says she is lost, if i can come to her; 3 minutes later i am at the place where she says (i asked 2 security), she is not there
19:49 she writes back that she is shy, and that she is not sexy, 3 minutes later i find her
She is young but has big tummy, for the sake of it i sleep with her for like 10 minutes, cause as i told her before i have to go at 9pm, did not cum. Before when we were on the computer my 9pm date called me all the time on the computer. Also she wanted lights out. Afterwards while she is with me she sends me text asking money for medicine for her grandmother. Give 100 pesos. This one was more depressing.
G8
imax 3d star wars 9 euros (i thought imax means suuuperbig screen, but it was like normal screen size. The ‚normal‘ cinema i think was 7 or 5 euros)
Went with this date to cinema cause i wanted to see star wars and this was the hottest girl yet. She is sweet to me. After movie go to my place, no excuse needed, but she says she doesn’t want sex. If i can just cuddle or if she has to go now. She sees lipstick all over my shirt, i didn't see it before. She talks about how i can have any girl in mall, just ask them for way to food thing, ask if they want to join you, then get to know and ask them to show condo. Sounds like good plan. Before bed i get naked, she says ‚ooh so long‘- i like this
. Her not wanting sex and her also joking about being ladyboy made me think she is ladyboy. In bed at morning i touch her bra, it’s so fat, it’s like a fake breast. I look inside second bra of her and see she has no breast! Ok, i got hard for a ladyboy. She sleeps like 1,5h longer than me, then she gets up, and omg, i see some real breasts, she is a girl after all. Later on we have sex and i cum quickly, well. She asks for transportation money when we depart, i give her 100 pesos.
Now i have no dates on this day and i am kinda happy. Wanna be alone. Perhaps swim or something. I cook at home and watch some movie while eating. Like at home
. (What i have to figure out is where to get my laundry done, gonna ask receptionist)
If your really stressing about cab rip offs, just get an uber. They are usually a step above a regular cab, can be pretty baller in the phils and uber support will refund you for any bullshit since everything is tracked.
Quote: (12-22-2015 02:41 AM)Roccker Wrote:
@ Antipodean: What do you mean with ‘we’?
I believe he was referring to 'us.'
Or perhaps even 'them.'
Beyond All Seas
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
Roccker, you are stone cold. A lot of respect.
1. So this girl didn't do it for you but you stuck it into her just for the sake of a notch. Stone cold.
2. Then you unceremoniously pulled out 10 minutes later without finishing because you had another date scheduled. Stone cold.
3. So for a moment there you though you had a ladyboy in your bed, and your reaction was just like 'meh, yea shit happens'. Stone cold.
Dude you seem to have no ego to get in your way, you're as cool as a pocket calculator.
Quote: (12-22-2015 02:41 AM)Roccker Wrote:
She is young but has big tummy, for the sake of it i sleep with her for like 10 minutes, cause as i told her before i have to go at 9pm, did not cum.
1. So this girl didn't do it for you but you stuck it into her just for the sake of a notch. Stone cold.
2. Then you unceremoniously pulled out 10 minutes later without finishing because you had another date scheduled. Stone cold.
Quote: (12-22-2015 02:41 AM)Roccker Wrote:
Her not wanting sex and her also joking about being ladyboy made me think she is ladyboy. In bed at morning i touch her bra, it’s so fat, it’s like a fake breast. I look inside second bra of her and see she has no breast! Ok, i got hard for a ladyboy.
3. So for a moment there you though you had a ladyboy in your bed, and your reaction was just like 'meh, yea shit happens'. Stone cold.
Dude you seem to have no ego to get in your way, you're as cool as a pocket calculator.
Quote: (12-21-2015 06:06 AM)Roccker Wrote:
I guess supermarkets are pricey.
What is actually cheap? I guess tricycles and jeepneys. Hotels i guess.
What is really cheap here is the people. Services are cheap. The Philippines is the place to get a haircut, do some dental work, go for a message, or hire a maid.
Things on the other hand aren't that cheap - the ones you're used from Europe are actually more expensive than at home. (No Aldi/Lidl here I'm afraid.)
I would love to have OP as a wingman
A man is only as faithful as his options-Chris Rock
I think Roccker will turn into one of the Philippines' premier poonhounds in the end.
Dr Johnson rumbles with the RawGod. And lives to regret it.
I'm smiling ear-to-ear reading about your adventures... This sounds awesome! Have never been there but I will arrive somewhere next week.
Haha, you make me sound more badass than i am
I will not break records or something.
I am already here 8 days, not totally fresh, girls ask where the other girls are that i already met from online. I tell them i don’t know, it was not a 100% fit.
Till i am here i basically never felt 100% healthy. There was stomach problems on and off, also the feeling of standing next to me a bit. Now it got me, i have a bit of fever (just 37,5 degrees) and exhaustion and sore throat. Hope i get better soon.
I think it was triggered when i gave bedsheet (only milleters thick) to laundry boy to wash, and i woke up being cold this night. Bit stupid.
Now i am here one good week, 3 more to go. Probably good time to take a minute thinking about what i want out of the rest of this trip. Health thing sucks. I guess i want: daygame, supertiny women i don’t find somewhere else, cheap food on the go, sleep long and well, go swimming in pool once when it is hot
I guess i don’t want: dates where i am not inspired (don’t think they are hot; but i guess i have to be rude or lie to break off date, don’t know if i will do that), online stuff, repeat sex (perhaps), night game (perhaps)
I am not so sure.
My load on phone was mysteriously going down for no reason at all all the time, like i wrote in first post. Now i quickly bought load and then made my own ‚gosakto‘ package (1000 texts and 10min calls for next 30 days) and quickly bought it after adding the load.
Philippino food
Cooked some longanisa philippine sausages.. they are in plastic (remove before cooking) and are sweet meat.. not so much my taste, as well as 12 pesos bbq meatsticks (bbq here means very sweet for my taste). Jellybea is ‚phillipine mcdonalds‘, you get cheapest burger for 30pesos and spaghetti (in combination eg with chicken that is very simillar to kfc chicken). Spaghetti also pretty sweet, but this one was ok for me. Found also place where to order garlic java rice (20 pesos) + egg (12 pesos) -> which is probably cheapest meal beside plain rice (14 pesos) and also Lumpia (40 pesos).
G6 asks ‚can i ask you a question xx?‘ and asks if she can borrrow money, i write i never do it.
Tinder is not working. It says it can’t connect to facebook. At home it worked, also with fake gps. I cleared the cache, didn’t help. Ok, now this time it’s working but it does not load pictures. Wlan internet is worse than the globe internet i have – with the globe internet of smartphone i watch youtube videos (not in good quality), but tinder doesn’t work properly (does not load pictures).
ps now it works. But actually i don't want to online date anymore (it's the easy way i guess, i find myself doing it.. tinder is not so good for me cause i cannot see girl's height, which is important to me).
If someone wants to meet up in QC just pm me.
New fb from home wishes me many beautiful experiences. I wonder if some social media (eg whatsapp) ‚tells‘ my location, that i am in philippines.
Weird feeling of being valued for being rich/white guy
Interesting. At home with fuckbuddies i am valued for my younger body and sex skills.
Here for ‚white guy image‘ (lifestyle, richness, positive racism).
Eg also Jelly bea guy goes out of his way to find some free seat for me.
Not much motivation to meet girls i already had sex with. First i don’t have so much sex drive to begin with, and also if i had it would just be better used for motivation in daygame. But this necessarily results in in burned ground of girls being pumped and dumped? They are not texting me mostly. I am here only one month.
G8
She is hard worker, 10 hours per day, then home sleep and repeat. She is not impressed by me being foreigner. She likes tall dark handsome man. I am none of those. I go into more friendship vibe, no spark also from me.
G9
Her cousin brought her with car, i buy 4-brownie pack because they look so good, she does not take one, later at jellybeas she pays for herself. She does not allow handholding. She tells me my pictures are deceiving, i look much more muscular there (it’s true). Her dad also has car. She seems like upperclass girl that feels entitled to have normal relationship with me, unlike other girls before who expect me to bring them home right away. She is not so good looking as these other girls but she is a lot easier and interesting to talk to.
G3 again
She is young cute, shy. I do escalate, rapport, tease, have fun, she does say no often but in happy voice, we have fun. After some hours she strokes my parts but she has period. Stays overnight.
I will not break records or something.
I am already here 8 days, not totally fresh, girls ask where the other girls are that i already met from online. I tell them i don’t know, it was not a 100% fit.
Till i am here i basically never felt 100% healthy. There was stomach problems on and off, also the feeling of standing next to me a bit. Now it got me, i have a bit of fever (just 37,5 degrees) and exhaustion and sore throat. Hope i get better soon.
I think it was triggered when i gave bedsheet (only milleters thick) to laundry boy to wash, and i woke up being cold this night. Bit stupid.
Now i am here one good week, 3 more to go. Probably good time to take a minute thinking about what i want out of the rest of this trip. Health thing sucks. I guess i want: daygame, supertiny women i don’t find somewhere else, cheap food on the go, sleep long and well, go swimming in pool once when it is hot
I guess i don’t want: dates where i am not inspired (don’t think they are hot; but i guess i have to be rude or lie to break off date, don’t know if i will do that), online stuff, repeat sex (perhaps), night game (perhaps)
I am not so sure.
My load on phone was mysteriously going down for no reason at all all the time, like i wrote in first post. Now i quickly bought load and then made my own ‚gosakto‘ package (1000 texts and 10min calls for next 30 days) and quickly bought it after adding the load.
Philippino food
Cooked some longanisa philippine sausages.. they are in plastic (remove before cooking) and are sweet meat.. not so much my taste, as well as 12 pesos bbq meatsticks (bbq here means very sweet for my taste). Jellybea is ‚phillipine mcdonalds‘, you get cheapest burger for 30pesos and spaghetti (in combination eg with chicken that is very simillar to kfc chicken). Spaghetti also pretty sweet, but this one was ok for me. Found also place where to order garlic java rice (20 pesos) + egg (12 pesos) -> which is probably cheapest meal beside plain rice (14 pesos) and also Lumpia (40 pesos).
G6 asks ‚can i ask you a question xx?‘ and asks if she can borrrow money, i write i never do it.
Tinder is not working. It says it can’t connect to facebook. At home it worked, also with fake gps. I cleared the cache, didn’t help. Ok, now this time it’s working but it does not load pictures. Wlan internet is worse than the globe internet i have – with the globe internet of smartphone i watch youtube videos (not in good quality), but tinder doesn’t work properly (does not load pictures).
ps now it works. But actually i don't want to online date anymore (it's the easy way i guess, i find myself doing it.. tinder is not so good for me cause i cannot see girl's height, which is important to me).
If someone wants to meet up in QC just pm me.
New fb from home wishes me many beautiful experiences. I wonder if some social media (eg whatsapp) ‚tells‘ my location, that i am in philippines.
Weird feeling of being valued for being rich/white guy
Interesting. At home with fuckbuddies i am valued for my younger body and sex skills.
Here for ‚white guy image‘ (lifestyle, richness, positive racism).
Eg also Jelly bea guy goes out of his way to find some free seat for me.
Not much motivation to meet girls i already had sex with. First i don’t have so much sex drive to begin with, and also if i had it would just be better used for motivation in daygame. But this necessarily results in in burned ground of girls being pumped and dumped? They are not texting me mostly. I am here only one month.
G8
She is hard worker, 10 hours per day, then home sleep and repeat. She is not impressed by me being foreigner. She likes tall dark handsome man. I am none of those. I go into more friendship vibe, no spark also from me.
G9
Her cousin brought her with car, i buy 4-brownie pack because they look so good, she does not take one, later at jellybeas she pays for herself. She does not allow handholding. She tells me my pictures are deceiving, i look much more muscular there (it’s true). Her dad also has car. She seems like upperclass girl that feels entitled to have normal relationship with me, unlike other girls before who expect me to bring them home right away. She is not so good looking as these other girls but she is a lot easier and interesting to talk to.
G3 again
She is young cute, shy. I do escalate, rapport, tease, have fun, she does say no often but in happy voice, we have fun. After some hours she strokes my parts but she has period. Stays overnight.
I just wanted to make clear that what I meant by a non-sit in restaurant is that the waiter doesn't come to you, you wait in line to order and they serve you, or call you or bring it to you afterwards. I'm not recommending street food, which is another ballgame. YMMV
If you're not feeling well, it couldn't hurt to go to a doctor. I went to a place in Cebu, and without using insurance paid $7 for a consultation and medicine. Less than the copay at most doctors in the US. But you can get sinutabs and amoxicillin at any sari sari store before that. There's also some bone broth (bulalo?) dishes that are good for when you're sick.
If you're getting bored of banging chicks in metro manila, you've got other options. You can catch a bus to Tagaytay and stay for a few days. The weather is much more mild, and they have some resorts with pools that you could take your (so far) favorite chick over a weekend. Lake Taal has some nice views.
What's your general feeling now that you're on the ground there? Do your initial fears seem irrational? Are you glad you got on the plane and went over?
If you're not feeling well, it couldn't hurt to go to a doctor. I went to a place in Cebu, and without using insurance paid $7 for a consultation and medicine. Less than the copay at most doctors in the US. But you can get sinutabs and amoxicillin at any sari sari store before that. There's also some bone broth (bulalo?) dishes that are good for when you're sick.
If you're getting bored of banging chicks in metro manila, you've got other options. You can catch a bus to Tagaytay and stay for a few days. The weather is much more mild, and they have some resorts with pools that you could take your (so far) favorite chick over a weekend. Lake Taal has some nice views.
What's your general feeling now that you're on the ground there? Do your initial fears seem irrational? Are you glad you got on the plane and went over?
I agree, you should get out of Manila for a bit. I got tired of the endless stream of 6s in Manila at about the week point. I went surfing and after a week and a half of that was ready for more 6s.
Respect for your uncompromising honesty on a forum where it's of high importance to many to look cool.
I arrive in the Phillies on Jan 26, unfortunately you will be gone by then. Have fun!
I arrive in the Phillies on Jan 26, unfortunately you will be gone by then. Have fun!
Failure is caused by unwillingness to adapt!
"If it's not rough, it is not fun!" - Lady Gaga, Philosopher
Use tinder on wifi. Not smart or globe pocket wifi, but proper, landline wifi.
Quote: (12-24-2015 11:47 PM)Roccker Wrote:
New fb from home wishes me many beautiful experiences. I wonder if some social media (eg whatsapp) ‚tells‘ my location, that i am in philippines.
Facebook may tell your location in your posts and private messages if you don't turn off location reporting (I always make sure it's off).
Same thing with photos taken on cell phone - I always make sure geotagging is off.
Not sure about whatsapp/viber, but I would double check.
I suuuck soo much
Today i ‚tried‘ daygame.
Thing is i also suck heavily at home, meaning i don’t even approach. By some strange miracle i still do some random approaches and got some long term fb’s from it somehow.
I had ‚start street approaching 2 weeks before phil‘ on my todo list, because my street approach ‚phases‘ always seem to start with approaching nothing and like after 1-2 weeks there are at least some approaches. But i didn’t do it because i was stressed as fuck.
So i went to mall at 13h and i have not ate before, and for motivation i told myself i will only eat when get some girl to join me. And i just have the lose goal of shopping for some shoes while i do this. I wandered around and did not approach.
Argh.
It’s like masses swarming. I see them, they are already gone by me. I am of course too slow. The small hotties i like are not that many. And they are always in company of mothers, daughters, boyfriends.
Of course these are all the standard excuses.
Talked to superhot store clerk for only like 2 sentences, and then gave her ‚hey, you are cute + my number + ‚say hi ‘. She did not. Well well.
Did some small shit like asking 5 directions, asking 3 times the time, asking what the line is, if the movie is good, actually one older philipinno guy opened me asking me if i enjoy the visit; eyeballed one good looking lady, she actually held eye contact and giggled with her friend, i let them go away, it was in the beginning. In these hours one other stare thing happend, from a hot teenager(?), but she was there with 2 gf’s and guy which was enough for my non existent balls to not do something. In the supermarket i ogled a cutie and turned head, mother of her was laughing. Another incident i checked out someone and granny behind her was telling her that and all were looking at me, but it was all good fun. I ‚should‘ just talk to groups.
Another time i wanted to talk to a girl that was selling food, but i was not smooth and there was always costumers ‚interrupting‘.
4,5hours later my spine felt like breaking from all the walking around and i gave up. Then i ate a lot of tiny little foodthings – 10 pesos great vanilla icecream, 45 pesos banana chocolate wafel, 55 pesos 1/4th pizza hut pizza. All good stuff. I spend ‚a lot‘ (not that muchactually) on eating out, but i think it’s money for pleasure well spent. At home make myself spaghetti + thuna (30pesos) + tomatoe paste.
Idea: Go for shopping clerks. They are stationary. They are ‚a lot‘. Talk to them a bit, then ‚actually i came here because i thought you were cute..‘
Argh – after these few daygame hours i find myself doing online again already.
Copy and pasted tinder contacts to contact me by phone - because tinder works only sometimes (it's not as easy as just using my wlan, cause my wlan of condo also sucks.. tinder often does not let me log in, and when it does it does not load pictures..).. till i found out there are a lot of ladyboys
Now i am reading all the descriptions
I want to do daygame, to do something for personal growth or something.. but i return to online dating for the ‚cheap drug‘ i guess.
Ok, silvester comes up. If i don’t organize something i will watch some fireworks from 17th floor balcony alone.
Btw Internet sucks here. Sites often just don’t load and facebook doesn’t load and so on and so on. It was great the first few days though..
"What's your general feeling now that you're on the ground there? Do your initial fears seem irrational? Are you glad you got on the plane and went over?"
First day waking up in middle of the night i felt a bit 'homesick', tiny bit i guess. But i felt soon pretty at home. As said i have no experience travelling. And i still don't have much, i only go to mall, i like comfort.
Between 'best idea of my life!' and 'worst idea of my life' it's somewhere in the middle but a bit more on the positive side. I think there is more to come in the following 3 weeks regarding experiences.
Regarding initial fears.. have to look up what i had.. security is no problem, i had stomach problems, stealing my mobile is hard to imagine, stealing my room even harder, losing passport even harder, sim at airport was no problem but took some time, let myself be scammed by taxi although having 'tried' to do the right thing- fucked this up, problems daygaming is true, criminality: well, i don't leave the mall, i heard of 3 girls they got robbed; bought electric adaptors there.. i guess that was it?
Today i ‚tried‘ daygame.
Thing is i also suck heavily at home, meaning i don’t even approach. By some strange miracle i still do some random approaches and got some long term fb’s from it somehow.
I had ‚start street approaching 2 weeks before phil‘ on my todo list, because my street approach ‚phases‘ always seem to start with approaching nothing and like after 1-2 weeks there are at least some approaches. But i didn’t do it because i was stressed as fuck.
So i went to mall at 13h and i have not ate before, and for motivation i told myself i will only eat when get some girl to join me. And i just have the lose goal of shopping for some shoes while i do this. I wandered around and did not approach.
Argh.
It’s like masses swarming. I see them, they are already gone by me. I am of course too slow. The small hotties i like are not that many. And they are always in company of mothers, daughters, boyfriends.
Of course these are all the standard excuses.
Talked to superhot store clerk for only like 2 sentences, and then gave her ‚hey, you are cute
+ my number + ‚say hi ‘. She did not. Well well. Did some small shit like asking 5 directions, asking 3 times the time, asking what the line is, if the movie is good, actually one older philipinno guy opened me asking me if i enjoy the visit; eyeballed one good looking lady, she actually held eye contact and giggled with her friend, i let them go away, it was in the beginning. In these hours one other stare thing happend, from a hot teenager(?), but she was there with 2 gf’s and guy which was enough for my non existent balls to not do something. In the supermarket i ogled a cutie and turned head, mother of her was laughing. Another incident i checked out someone and granny behind her was telling her that and all were looking at me, but it was all good fun. I ‚should‘ just talk to groups.
Another time i wanted to talk to a girl that was selling food, but i was not smooth and there was always costumers ‚interrupting‘.
4,5hours later my spine felt like breaking from all the walking around and i gave up. Then i ate a lot of tiny little foodthings – 10 pesos great vanilla icecream, 45 pesos banana chocolate wafel, 55 pesos 1/4th pizza hut pizza. All good stuff. I spend ‚a lot‘ (not that muchactually) on eating out, but i think it’s money for pleasure well spent. At home make myself spaghetti + thuna (30pesos) + tomatoe paste.
Idea: Go for shopping clerks. They are stationary. They are ‚a lot‘. Talk to them a bit, then ‚actually i came here because i thought you were cute..‘
Argh – after these few daygame hours i find myself doing online again already.
Copy and pasted tinder contacts to contact me by phone - because tinder works only sometimes (it's not as easy as just using my wlan, cause my wlan of condo also sucks.. tinder often does not let me log in, and when it does it does not load pictures..).. till i found out there are a lot of ladyboys
Now i am reading all the descriptions
I want to do daygame, to do something for personal growth or something.. but i return to online dating for the ‚cheap drug‘ i guess.
Ok, silvester comes up. If i don’t organize something i will watch some fireworks from 17th floor balcony alone.
Btw Internet sucks here
. Sites often just don’t load and facebook doesn’t load and so on and so on. It was great the first few days though.."What's your general feeling now that you're on the ground there? Do your initial fears seem irrational? Are you glad you got on the plane and went over?"
First day waking up in middle of the night i felt a bit 'homesick', tiny bit i guess. But i felt soon pretty at home. As said i have no experience travelling. And i still don't have much, i only go to mall
, i like comfort. Between 'best idea of my life!' and 'worst idea of my life' it's somewhere in the middle but a bit more on the positive side. I think there is more to come in the following 3 weeks regarding experiences.
Regarding initial fears.. have to look up what i had.. security is no problem, i had stomach problems, stealing my mobile is hard to imagine, stealing my room even harder, losing passport even harder, sim at airport was no problem but took some time, let myself be scammed by taxi although having 'tried' to do the right thing- fucked this up, problems daygaming is true, criminality: well, i don't leave the mall, i heard of 3 girls they got robbed; bought electric adaptors there.. i guess that was it?
Roccker,
I agree with the posters above that you should go and visit places outside of Manila while you are in the Phil.
However, if that is beyond your time or $ budget, here is a suggested day trip to broaden your experience for < 100php (200php with meal) ..
Set out from where you are, after the "morning rush hour" - Say 10am.
Catch the MRT southwards, get off at Ayala station.
Exit the station down the stairs at the east side of the EDSA.
Just around the corner you will find the BGC bus terminal.
Buy a ticket (12php) and get on the East bus to MarketMarket (mall).
Get off the bus at MarketMarket. You are now at "The Fort".
Have a look around. Walk over to SM Aura, Serendra, Bonifacio High Street.
If you are ok walking further in the heat, and in the mood to "splash out", wander over around 3rd Ave for a browse in the Rolls Royce and Ferrari Maserati dealerships, or the Mind Museum.
If you want a meal, try Gilligans at MarketMarket (outside). A basic meal starts at 99php including soup and drink.
If you are really hungry and want to blow the budget, try Cabalen Buffet restaurant. All you can eat for 300php.
Try to head home before the afternoon "rush hour", or if you have found a few interesting things, or got busy daygaming, don't try heading home till evening. But be aware that the MRT stops running around 10pm.
Alternatively (or as well) ...
From Ayala station, exit to the west directly into SM Ayala mall.
The other end of SM connects to Glorietta malls.
The west end of Glorietta connects to Landmark department store.
The other side of Landmark connects by overhead walkway to Greenbelt malls.
You can walk around this entire thing mostly inside with aircon.
If you get as far as Greenbelt 1, exit onto the streets, walk up to Ayala Ave, centre of the CBD.
You may like to try daygaming office workers in the Ayala Triangle park at lunch time.
BTW, you will also find Gilligans and Cabalen in Glorietta, and some malls nearer to where you stay.
Also, you may like to coordinate your day trip with meeting girls you have pipelined in the area.
Re shitty internet/data connection: As I've said before, having wasted many frustrating hours on this, I found the only practical solution is the 4G LTE setup. It works.
I don't think the 3G and other wireless arrangements in Phil are technically substandard, it is just that user loading is excessive at peak times.
I agree with the posters above that you should go and visit places outside of Manila while you are in the Phil.
However, if that is beyond your time or $ budget, here is a suggested day trip to broaden your experience for < 100php (200php with meal) ..
Set out from where you are, after the "morning rush hour" - Say 10am.
Catch the MRT southwards, get off at Ayala station.
Exit the station down the stairs at the east side of the EDSA.
Just around the corner you will find the BGC bus terminal.
Buy a ticket (12php) and get on the East bus to MarketMarket (mall).
Get off the bus at MarketMarket. You are now at "The Fort".
Have a look around. Walk over to SM Aura, Serendra, Bonifacio High Street.
If you are ok walking further in the heat, and in the mood to "splash out", wander over around 3rd Ave for a browse in the Rolls Royce and Ferrari Maserati dealerships, or the Mind Museum.
If you want a meal, try Gilligans at MarketMarket (outside). A basic meal starts at 99php including soup and drink.
If you are really hungry and want to blow the budget, try Cabalen Buffet restaurant. All you can eat for 300php.
Try to head home before the afternoon "rush hour", or if you have found a few interesting things, or got busy daygaming, don't try heading home till evening. But be aware that the MRT stops running around 10pm.
Alternatively (or as well) ...
From Ayala station, exit to the west directly into SM Ayala mall.
The other end of SM connects to Glorietta malls.
The west end of Glorietta connects to Landmark department store.
The other side of Landmark connects by overhead walkway to Greenbelt malls.
You can walk around this entire thing mostly inside with aircon.
If you get as far as Greenbelt 1, exit onto the streets, walk up to Ayala Ave, centre of the CBD.
You may like to try daygaming office workers in the Ayala Triangle park at lunch time.
BTW, you will also find Gilligans and Cabalen in Glorietta, and some malls nearer to where you stay.
Also, you may like to coordinate your day trip with meeting girls you have pipelined in the area.
Re shitty internet/data connection: As I've said before, having wasted many frustrating hours on this, I found the only practical solution is the 4G LTE setup. It works.
I don't think the 3G and other wireless arrangements in Phil are technically substandard, it is just that user loading is excessive at peak times.
Antipodean is right about the 4G LTE. I don't know what your setup is, but I ended up shelling out $4500 pesos for a 4G LTE Hub. It worked great. If you have a 4G LTE phone, make sure you get a 4G LTE Sim card. By default, they might not sell you one unless you ask for it and you'll be stuck with a lower speed. That's what happened to me with my phone.
As far as Daygame goes, doing it for personal growth is fine and all, but for me, my motivation was I want higher quality girls. You've been on the ground long enough to know the difference I think. So go out and get 'em!!!
As far as Daygame goes, doing it for personal growth is fine and all, but for me, my motivation was I want higher quality girls. You've been on the ground long enough to know the difference I think. So go out and get 'em!!!
Quote: (12-25-2015 12:21 PM)Roccker Wrote:
Thing is i also suck heavily at home, meaning i don’t even approach. By some strange miracle i In these hours one other stare thing happend, from a hot teenager(?), but she was there with 2 gf’s and guy which was enough for my non existent balls to not do something.
I'm sure you're kidding by sprinkling these comments throughout your post, but this kind of self talk is not healthy for you. Especially when you display it publicly.
Sel-deprecation is only charming in small doses, and when it comes from a foundation of confidence.
Beyond All Seas
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
Roccker, you actually have balls of steel! I'm pretty sure most of the guys you know are sitting on their beta asses in Central Europe supplicating to their cunty girlfriends. Most people can't even conceive of traveling on their own much less to a place like the Philippines. Not only have you done this, you are also banging non-hookers. This makes you an exceptional individual!
By the way, I had very little luck day gaming in the malls in the Phils too. In the states, day game works well for me. Is it possible you are coming off as too cocky and therefore intimidating? I actually think the girls in the Phils are so shy, they get scared when a tall white guy approaches. A friend of mine who lived in Asia for years suggested that the best way to day game there is to ask for help yet demonstrate some inner self esteem while doing so. Perhaps this will make you seem less intimidating. This will also give the girl an opportunity to demonstrate her value to you.
By the way, I had very little luck day gaming in the malls in the Phils too. In the states, day game works well for me. Is it possible you are coming off as too cocky and therefore intimidating? I actually think the girls in the Phils are so shy, they get scared when a tall white guy approaches. A friend of mine who lived in Asia for years suggested that the best way to day game there is to ask for help yet demonstrate some inner self esteem while doing so. Perhaps this will make you seem less intimidating. This will also give the girl an opportunity to demonstrate her value to you.
Wanting validation from other people, sending stuff out and being perceived, wanting to be perceived a certain way, being free of that to a certain degree or thinking to be free of that to a certain degree, measuring others with own brain how free they are.. now that’s several gigantic themes
In short: Thanks for your Feedback Beyond, always interesting to me (while trying to be free from it. Big topic)
Robert, thanks, your post made me feel good
Just had my proudest moment so far-
but first some daygame attempts:
Girl stands there, i say ‚christine?‘, she shakes head and goes away
She looks at bags, i say pointing ‚this one is nice!‘ – but when i recognize father i direct the question to him
Shoe section, plan is to ask something i really want (shoe in size), then tell her she is cute. She tells someone else to get shoe for me and is gone. Later she is around 2 other coworkers.
I say hello to girl in shoestore, she smiles but keeps on walking. I say ‚shopping!‘, she smiles and keeps going joining family.
Walk past 3set (mother daughter grandmother or something?), eye contact with mother, smile, the whole group reacts, i did not react so fast but kept walking slowly, they keep looking till i am like 20 metres away. Should just do some small talk with them.
Guess going direct is an answer. Indirect would be strongly asking for some information. In theory it’s great, somehow it amazes me that i struggle doing it infield. I’ll do another round.
Was anyone choosing daygame over internet game, or writing some detail about daygame success in phil? It’s not a big mystery, i have the same / simillar problems at home, but at home it seems there are more girls running around solo, or whatever. I would like to read what more succesful people wrote.
I know this thing with giving out papers to all cute girls with number, then another guy writing that he did that to hundreds of girls and his lay rate was under 1% if i am not mistaken.
Still ‚sick‘, well, i got running nose. I am fleeing the winter to warm country, now this
Proud moment:
G10
From tinder (all the ones before were filipinocupid, or more seldom pinalove). She came with car. She lives in Makati, works in Makati, for big company, in marketing. She studied and partied in Makati and lives in QZ at home on weekends. She comes up, self confident. I say i am a bit hungry, we go to pizza place. I am thinking i will order one small pizza and let her join in. She orders my thing (cashier-helper asks her) and another thing for her – and pays the whole thing. I tell her i owe her something, she says ‚don’t worry‘. We eat, i tell funny stories and we go through to the childhood, teenage, university phase stories and hobbies and stuff. We finish, she says it’s so crowded here, i say lets go to condo, close door and hide in a corner. I showed her where i live before by fingerpointing tower. She says ok, when she accepts handhold i am happy. Once home, basically right into kissing, and i am soo happy about my sex performance. She is hot and slim and rich. I use all the sex tricks i have and they all work, all kinds of dirty things, i am happy. I am very happy. I accompany her to her car. She won a car recently by accident and now wants to keep both cars. She gives me the usual cold goodbye in public i am used to here (but still surprises me always a bit). Go to next date.
G11
From fc, first message to me was ‚hi if ur interested I can sleep with u. I just wanna have fun. in free on Saturday night?’. I was not in the country at that time. Later she writes ‘let’s just be friends’ (without any real input from me). She comes, she is cuuute. No resistance going to condo. She tells me she is virgin and is flirting with a French guy over internet that will fly over I guess in some months, but I can teach her kissing. I also tell her some things like what you have to do to actually get pregnant (sperm in pussy) and what does not lead to pregnancy (licking only). Then licking her, then teaching her blowjob, I don’t press it but she also wants to try deflowering. I go superslow but she stops, it’s all ok. She says till next time.
Fun fact:
Mostly when we meet up they write something like ‚how can i recognic you?‘ to which i answer ‚i am the white guy, text when you are in front of –meeting place‘. Cause they often seem to just stand there, me like a few metres away from them, like the only caucation in the whole building. Then they text me what they are wearing.
Saying goodbye in public to girls after sex seemed always kind of distanced to me on her side. I guess it’s the ‚people are looking‘ factor.
In short: Thanks for your Feedback Beyond, always interesting to me (while trying to be free from it
. Big topic)Robert, thanks, your post made me feel good
Just had my proudest moment so far-
but first some daygame attempts:
Girl stands there, i say ‚christine?‘, she shakes head and goes away
She looks at bags, i say pointing ‚this one is nice!‘ – but when i recognize father i direct the question to him
Shoe section, plan is to ask something i really want (shoe in size), then tell her she is cute. She tells someone else to get shoe for me and is gone. Later she is around 2 other coworkers.
I say hello to girl in shoestore, she smiles but keeps on walking. I say ‚shopping!
‘, she smiles and keeps going joining family. Walk past 3set (mother daughter grandmother or something?), eye contact with mother, smile, the whole group reacts, i did not react so fast but kept walking slowly, they keep looking till i am like 20 metres away. Should just do some small talk with them.
Guess going direct is an answer. Indirect would be strongly asking for some information. In theory it’s great, somehow it amazes me that i struggle doing it infield. I’ll do another round.
Was anyone choosing daygame over internet game, or writing some detail about daygame success in phil? It’s not a big mystery, i have the same / simillar problems at home, but at home it seems there are more girls running around solo, or whatever. I would like to read what more succesful people wrote.
I know this thing with giving out papers to all cute girls with number, then another guy writing that he did that to hundreds of girls and his lay rate was under 1% if i am not mistaken.
Still ‚sick‘, well, i got running nose. I am fleeing the winter to warm country, now this
Proud moment:
G10
From tinder (all the ones before were filipinocupid, or more seldom pinalove). She came with car. She lives in Makati, works in Makati, for big company, in marketing. She studied and partied in Makati and lives in QZ at home on weekends. She comes up, self confident. I say i am a bit hungry, we go to pizza place. I am thinking i will order one small pizza and let her join in. She orders my thing (cashier-helper asks her) and another thing for her – and pays the whole thing. I tell her i owe her something, she says ‚don’t worry‘. We eat, i tell funny stories and we go through to the childhood, teenage, university phase stories and hobbies and stuff. We finish, she says it’s so crowded here, i say lets go to condo, close door and hide in a corner. I showed her where i live before by fingerpointing tower. She says ok, when she accepts handhold i am happy. Once home, basically right into kissing, and i am soo happy about my sex performance. She is hot and slim and rich. I use all the sex tricks i have and they all work, all kinds of dirty things, i am happy. I am very happy. I accompany her to her car. She won a car recently by accident and now wants to keep both cars. She gives me the usual cold goodbye in public i am used to here (but still surprises me always a bit). Go to next date.
G11
From fc, first message to me was ‚hi if ur interested I can sleep with u. I just wanna have fun. in free on Saturday night?’. I was not in the country at that time. Later she writes ‘let’s just be friends’ (without any real input from me). She comes, she is cuuute. No resistance going to condo. She tells me she is virgin and is flirting with a French guy over internet that will fly over I guess in some months, but I can teach her kissing. I also tell her some things like what you have to do to actually get pregnant (sperm in pussy) and what does not lead to pregnancy (licking only). Then licking her, then teaching her blowjob, I don’t press it but she also wants to try deflowering. I go superslow but she stops, it’s all ok. She says till next time.
Fun fact:
Mostly when we meet up they write something like ‚how can i recognic you?‘ to which i answer ‚i am the white guy, text when you are in front of –meeting place‘. Cause they often seem to just stand there, me like a few metres away from them, like the only caucation in the whole building. Then they text me what they are wearing
. Saying goodbye in public to girls after sex seemed always kind of distanced to me on her side. I guess it’s the ‚people are looking‘ factor.
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