[h3ltrsk3ltr]

I dyslexicly misread an article that popped up today with the title “How to tell a woman what you do”. I was excited to think I’d read “How to tell a woman what TO do” and after some searching, haven’t really found this information documented.

While I’ve told women to do things (usually sexual), I’ve rarely if ever heard a man order his wife around the house. In fact, it meets with a lot of resistance and shock today if you straight up order a bitch to do something. I’ve been reading a lot of Roosh’s culture-related bloggings lately and am becoming concerned that not only do men generally fail in presenting themselves in a manly way at all times, the newer generations are losing the knowledge altogether.

I’m going to start being more mindful of how I speak and carry myself, but I’m going to specifically start practicing command over women. This doesn’t come from the need to exert power over women or work through mommy issues. I genuinely believe that only men lead the human race in any cultural, scientific or technological progress. It might not be me who does any of those things, but it might be another man who was able to lead because of the example I set.

It’s a responsibility to lead. It’s not a way to get sadistic pleasure or misuse your power. Maybe as men that’s what we did and now we’re starting to lose it, I don’t know. But I think it’s our responsibility as men to take on the burden of leading women.

How to Tell a Woman What to Do – My Initial Thoughts

1.Know what you want – Don’t sit there browsing the menu or considering what beer you want, practice saying exactly what you want at all times with confidence. This isn’t original; lots of other guys have written that same advice here

2.Don’t contradict yourself – When you train a dog, you can’t tell it to sit and just let it run off if you want to make it obey you. If you give a command, make sure it’s followed through even if you instantly regret it. I’m not likening women to dogs here either; this is an example of how to maintain strength in your command

3.Be firm, not rude – Speak softly and carry a big stick. There should be a hint of a threat in your command. This is tricky. Obviously we’re going to run into a lot of difficulty in forcing someone to do something (and no, I don’t support violent rape) but we do emphasize getting bigger and more imposing on the forum here. I think, even though you can throw that vaguely threatening tone into your command, the best way to be threatening is to look more physically masculine and imposing

4.Deeper, calmer voice is better – Some guys have super deep voices, some guys don’t. Either way, get the damn up-speak or lilting tones out of your mouth. Speak clearly, just loud enough, and with some force and importance

5.Just turn what would normally be a request into an order – You can still be polite while giving a command, bowing and scraping when asking someone to do something isn’t politeness it’s pathetic

6.Don’t get rattled – Women like being commanded, but no one likes being petulantly ordered around. I suspect it'll be a little difficult to get it more on the side of commanding than dickish at fist...so practice. It’s probably easy to just do this in a bar or restaurant, she’ll probably just spit in your food if you’ve really lost your frame. The hard part is going to be at home, the workplace or your college. If she blows you off or worse, tries to tell you off, it’s probably best just to keep your cool and ignore it.


Anyone else got input on this? I’m not ready to get sucked into this SJW culture. I think we have to actively undermine it or it's going to get a lot worse. Maybe this won’t make a big impact but it’s something.

Anyway, these are my thoughts. I suspect pulling this off will be directly proportional to wetness of the panties.

[Menace]

This is really too much theory for something that is actually very simple (in one sense). The woman must merely see you as a high value man. And you must be confident. After that, you can tell them what to do. I tell them how I want them to dress, how to paint their nails, to watch what they eat, to lean out, things of that sort.

Remember, it is part of a woman's nature to submit to a man. It's what they want, whether they admit it or not. But, you have to be seen as worthy of submission by them, hence all the testing, etc. Therefore, work on yourself, and the rest falls into place naturally.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

(12-03-2015 04:27 PM)Menace Wrote:  

This is really too much theory for something that is actually very simple

Well, it is on the deep forum.

[GlobalMan]

About 80% of it has nothing to do with what you actually say verbally. It's what you don't say, your body language, and your actions.

If you've done those things correctly in the beginning, then you'll rarely if ever need to "tell" a woman what to do, because you've already established your expectations and what you won't tolerate, and weeded out a girl that's not up for it.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

So this whole thing is prompted from the observation that women are generally getting very disrespectful of men in major metropolitan areas of the US which is the only real first hand knowledge I've got, but it's pretty extensive.

I'm getting sick of these fat, bitchy females who have that cuntish attitude.

I've been taking college classes again so I see more of this and it worries me that the next generations are going to have this mentality really deeply ingrained.

I get it, self-improvement, keeping your frame...guys, I agree with you. I guess I wish there were more of us who really actively found ways to stem the tide of 4th wave feminist thinking in both men and women. This isn't so much about game or texting a girl "skirt and heels" as about developing a deeper understanding and culture of cohesive masculinity.

Either way, thanks for the feedback, fellas.

[Pinocchio]

I lightly order my girl around. I'll tell her what I want her to wear, tell her not to be late if she's meeting me, I get her to go to the bar for me and buy me drinks if I'm chatting with a friend. You just need to be careful how you phrase it otherwise so she doesn't kick up arbitrary resistance.

[Oz.]

Since this is in the deep forum, it is not what or how you perceive yourself physically but how you carry yourself subconsciously. Once you have fucked her mind her body will follow you anywhere

[Jesus Christ]

Calmy tell her to do it with a tone that suggests you fully expect her to do it. You don't have to be rude or patronizing, as it comes off as posturing. If she refuses once or twice, you can laugh it off. If she refuses constantly, and will not submit no matter what, get rid of her.

[greekgod]

It's hard to be disrespected in a metropolitan area when you walk with a purpose. Seriously, when I drag my feet and slouch, chicks and people in general assume I'm passive.

When I Vince McMahon, get looks and have a clear path.

Be Vince.

[VincentVinturi]

There has to be a large value differential where the woman stands to benefit a lot by obeying you and stands to lose a lot by disobeying you.

It's that simple.

In the West this kind of differential is hard to find because the of the nanny state.

There's a good reason that women in countries without big daddy government are a lot more submissive.

Think about it:

The average girl in America might have fun role playing with you in bed where you boss her around but she's not going to tolerate being commanded when obeying you won't get her anything she doesn't already have, or can't already get.

Whereas in the Philippines a girl knows that you're a "rich foreigner" and if she wants to benefit from your status and wealth she'd better be on her best behavior.

Yes you've got to be a convincingly dominant and masculine man but I think the true leverage comes from circumstances.

[Jesus Christ]

(12-05-2015 01:25 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

There has to be a large value differential where the woman stands to benefit a lot by obeying you and stands to lose a lot by disobeying you.

It's that simple.

In the West this kind of differential is hard to find because the of the nanny state.

There's a good reason that women in countries without big daddy government are a lot more submissive.

Think about it:

The average girl in America might have fun role playing with you in bed where you boss her around but she's not going to tolerate being commanded when obeying you won't get her anything she doesn't already have, or can't already get.

Whereas in the Philippines a girl knows that you're a "rich foreigner" and if she wants to benefit from your status and wealth she'd better be on her best behavior.

Yes you've got to be a convincingly dominant and masculine man but I think the true leverage comes from circumstances.

This. No matter how dominant you are, some girls will simply refuse to submit. It is in female nature to be happy in a position of submission, so many women, even feminists, do submit in the short-term. But in the mid/long-term, some girls will just refuse to submit, in which case you are better off looking for another girl. In the old days we used to force submission upon women by beating them (something that is still done and was always done in Russia, perhaps that is where their submissiveness comes from). We don't do that anymore, so you have to find another girl.