[YossariansRight]

(12-02-2015 02:12 PM)rw95 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 12:39 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

The liberal/SJW/NWO/kumbaya fantasy that started with Zerobama's getting elected has been a complete, total and absolute disaster, as planned, since the first second.

I get a smile when I see the "Obama's fleets of flying unicorns are going to shit Skittles" types in misery, now that even the blindest of these fucktards can see what a disaster their "messiah" is.

Fuck them all. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

But remember, these same people are the ones who are firmly in power right now, and will do whatever it takes to get Hitlery or Sanders in office, even if they have to kill the opposition. We're not that far away from that.

They can try, but if it came to it, they'll lose. There's a lot of, I'll call them center-right folks, who, if are attacked, aren't going to let their consciences interrupt the retaliation.

[Only One Man]

(12-02-2015 01:15 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Veloce: Life expectancy is mostly a measure of birth death rates. If you made it to 20, you'd probably make it to 60. People didnt just drop dead in their 30's.

That's true except people used to die young all the time from diseases or injuries that now can be fixed pretty easily.

[Drazen]

When interest rates go up, everything will collapse. There will be an event used to cover it up as the reason though.

[Veloce]

(12-02-2015 01:15 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Veloce: Life expectancy is mostly a measure of birth death rates. If you made it to 20, you'd probably make it to 60. People didnt just drop dead in their 30's.

Even taking that into account then I'm glad I live in a time when I'm able to reach the age of 20 without having to worry about disease, conscription, or invading armies. I live in a time that, despite the fact that I wasn't born into nobility, I can own land and my own business. Yes I'm paying taxes to a government that I don't agree with, but if that's the worst thing that I face then I'll take it. Looking at a historical context, the average American enjoys liberties and luxuries that a very tiny percentage of humans have experienced.

I refuse to romanticize the past any longer, and I've done it plenty. When we look at "golden ages" throughout history we're looking at a matter of decades, tops.

To some extent, we all live in a bubble. We've all created a lifestyle that involves some degree of comfort. Noone is logging into RVF from a remote cave off the grid and waging war against feminists, the NSA, the EU and Jewish bankers. When the time comes for confrontation, I have no doubt that the alt-right and neomasculinists will stand up and represent our side in the ideological battle.

But make no mistake, that ideological battle has been going on since the dawn of civilization, and there is no end in sight. There's no reason to believe that the world is ending or that we cannot live a fruitful, happy, and harmonious life.

[Saweeep]

(12-02-2015 02:51 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

When interest rates go up, everything will collapse. There will be an event used to cover it up as the reason though.

I think rates will be held artificially low for pretty much as long as is possible.

Here in the UK the reason for that are houses and house prices. As long as house prices are holding or increasing, it seems the population is blind and dumb to anything else economically.

Even a half a percent rise in base rate will fuck up the housing market here and the powers that be can't have that.

[kosko]

The rich can't sit on their cheap money forever as they are running out of commodities and joke markets to stuff it. Rates will have to go up at some point.

[The Wire]

(12-02-2015 02:28 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

Women have been reduced to sexual commodities, and marriage has been turned into the greatest legal and financial risk a man could ever undertake. Men of the past faced plagues, wars, and a life of hard labor. But through it all, most of them had a feminine wife who would have a warm meal and a tidy home ready for him when he returned. We've gained much, but at the expense of what truly matters.

Lifelong marriage really only works when the women are reduce to property of the husband. Its not that women are bad today. You just realistically can't have 2 individuals with equals rights in a long term commitment. You really need arranged marriages and women reduce to property of the husband for divorce rates to go way down. Thats a different world all together and the world like that means you will be stuck in your social class and won't be able to ever have a real shot of getting out of your situation you better sure as hell hope you hit the genetic lottery and your parents have money.

[Tactician]

Quote:

Lifelong marriage really only works when the women are reduce to property of the husband.

^ Disagree.

Things like negative cultural influences and incentivized divorce greatly affect the probability of a failed marriage.

Here are a few things that contribute to failed marriages:
- Women being influenced to pursue higher education and careers for a long time (thus attempting to gain more economic security (long-term provisioning), thus pursuing short-term fun (carousel))
- Hookup culture damaging womens' bonding capacity (related to the above causing marriage to be delayed)
- Feminist conditioning and lower testosterone levels among males leading to men not knowing how to lead women
- Welfare state and endless safety nets for women (i.e. child support), leading to long-term provisioning being secured.

You are on to something though. I don't think women have to be straight-up property of their husbands, but they certainly need to be held accountable for their decisions, as opposed to being endlessly bailed out by society.

Throw in a traditional upbringing, and a lot more women will choose to stay with their husbands and live fulfilling lives.

[Gmac]

(12-02-2015 03:26 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 01:15 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Veloce: Life expectancy is mostly a measure of birth death rates. If you made it to 20, you'd probably make it to 60. People didnt just drop dead in their 30's.

Even taking that into account then I'm glad I live in a time when I'm able to reach the age of 20 without having to worry about disease, conscription, or invading armies. I live in a time that, despite the fact that I wasn't born into nobility, I can own land and my own business. Yes I'm paying taxes to a government that I don't agree with, but if that's the worst thing that I face then I'll take it. Looking at a historical context, the average American enjoys liberties and luxuries that a very tiny percentage of humans have experienced.

I refuse to romanticize the past any longer, and I've done it plenty. When we look at "golden ages" throughout history we're looking at a matter of decades, tops.

To some extent, we all live in a bubble. We've all created a lifestyle that involves some degree of comfort. Noone is logging into RVF from a remote cave off the grid and waging war against feminists, the NSA, the EU and Jewish bankers. When the time comes for confrontation, I have no doubt that the alt-right and neomasculinists will stand up and represent our side in the ideological battle.

But make no mistake, that ideological battle has been going on since the dawn of civilization, and there is no end in sight. There's no reason to believe that the world is ending or that we cannot live a fruitful, happy, and harmonious life.

[The Wire]

(12-03-2015 05:29 AM)Tactician Wrote:  

Quote:

Lifelong marriage really only works when the women are reduce to property of the husband.

^ Disagree.

Things like negative cultural influences and incentivized divorce greatly affect the probability of a failed marriage.

Here are a few things that contribute to failed marriages:
- Women being influenced to pursue higher education and careers for a long time (thus attempting to gain more economic security (long-term provisioning), thus pursuing short-term fun (carousel))
- Hookup culture damaging womens' bonding capacity (related to the above causing marriage to be delayed)
- Feminist conditioning and lower testosterone levels among males leading to men not knowing how to lead women
- Welfare state and endless safety nets for women (i.e. child support), leading to long-term provisioning being secured.

You are on to something though. I don't think women have to be straight-up property of their husbands, but they certainly need to be held accountable for their decisions, as opposed to being endlessly bailed out by society.

Throw in a traditional upbringing, and a lot more women will choose to stay with their husbands and live fulfilling lives.

It's a fact that arrange marriages were a common practice and that women were basically property of men in the past. The same past that thoughtgypsy romanticize about women being so loving. The times that are being mentioned are the times well before women couldn't even vote let alone hold any type of legitimate position in society besides being born into nobility.

Are you saying it was a complete coincidence divorce rates started going up when women starting gaining legitimate rights? I don't buy that for a second. You can't have two people on equal footing in a marriage and expect lots of harmony. It will never work that way. You're going to get 50% divorce rates.

If you want to get rid of high divorce rates you simply look at what actually worked in the past. Arranged marriages and women with the same rights as the man's children. Thats how you solve it. You cannot give women the same rights as men and then expect them not to pursue higher education and careers. That does not make sense. That's some kind of fantasy land that doesn't exist.

[rw95]

Leftist globalist faggots on one hand, knuckle dragging Islamists on the other. Here we are stuck in the middle.

And to think, only a few days ago I was worried that I would never have a family.

Now, I think I'm just going to opt out altogether. Maybe the hedonists and nihilists are right after all. No point on bringing children into a world with no future.

[Going strong]

(12-05-2015 07:50 PM)rw95 Wrote:  

Leftist globalist faggots on one hand, knuckle dragging Islamists on the other. Here we are stuck in the middle.

And to think, only a few days ago I was worried that I would never have a family.

Now, I think I'm just going to opt out altogether. Maybe the hedonists and nihilists are right after all. No point on bringing children into a world with no future.

You're complaining about "Leftist globalist faggots" and right then, you agree with their favorite piece of defeatist bullshit: No point on bringing children into a world with no future.

[eradicator]

(12-02-2015 06:36 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

"If you don't like it, leave."

That's what I did and my happiness has been restored. Will I ever go back to the US?
- NO. The US doesn't come out ahead of Ukraine on anything that concerns me.
I now live here on a comfortable salary with a great job and am able to easily save 66% of my take home pay while being around the most beautiful feminine women in the world.

Everything is Going Great in My World

Write a data sheet. Break it down, I am curious about what all is involved in getting the needed work visas and permits to work in EU and Ukraine specifically. Can you get by with only knowing Russian language? How long did it take you to learn the language and game the local hot women? I cannot be the only person considering such a move, you've already done it, tell us about it.

[Going strong]

(12-05-2015 09:28 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 06:36 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

"If you don't like it, leave."

That's what I did and my happiness has been restored. Will I ever go back to the US?
- NO. The US doesn't come out ahead of Ukraine on anything that concerns me.
I now live here on a comfortable salary with a great job and am able to easily save 66% of my take home pay while being around the most beautiful feminine women in the world.

Everything is Going Great in My World

Write a data sheet. Break it down, I am curious about what all is involved in getting the needed work visas and permits to work in EU and Ukraine specifically. Can you get by with only knowing Russian language? How long did it take you to learn the language and game the local hot women? I cannot be the only person considering such a move, you've already done it, tell us about it.

I can reply to this one:

Can you get by with only knowing Russian language?

Yes. To begin with, Eastern part of Ukraine speaks Russian.
As to the Western part, they might prefer Ukrainian for political reasons, but, you being a foreigner, they would not resent your speaking Russian. They know that nowhere in the world, is Ukrainian language teached.

[LEMONed IScream]

Considering that something simple like penicillin was invented less than a century ago.

Considering that before the rise of that simple addition we take for granted today, you had people dying like flies because of the simplest diseases.

Considering that our forefathers, with all their mistakes, left us a better world than the one they got, and that the challenges we face today seem to pale in comparison to theirs...

What is, then, feminism and SJW cultural marxism compared to the real dangers of life? Have we become so emaciated that this is looked at as a credible threat? I do understand the lack of hardship may induce a certain coddled state, but still...

This is nothing but a short blemish in history, which shall be vanquished. The western male beat Nature, disease, other civilizations, and even itself. Time and time again.

Will it fall because of a bunch of traitor faggots within its ranks, and poor excuses of women with coloured armpit hair?

Vescere bracis meis!

[Barron]

(12-05-2015 09:28 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 06:36 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

"If you don't like it, leave."

That's what I did and my happiness has been restored. Will I ever go back to the US?
- NO. The US doesn't come out ahead of Ukraine on anything that concerns me.
I now live here on a comfortable salary with a great job and am able to easily save 66% of my take home pay while being around the most beautiful feminine women in the world.

Everything is Going Great in My World

Write a data sheet. Break it down, I am curious about what all is involved in getting the needed work visas and permits to work in EU and Ukraine specifically. Can you get by with only knowing Russian language? How long did it take you to learn the language and game the local hot women? I cannot be the only person considering such a move, you've already done it, tell us about it.

I'm a teacher here and am treated very well since they value native speakers of English. The pay is just shy of a professional salary in Ukraine but I'm given an apartment to live in which I share with one roommate, the rent is around $110-$120 a month depending where the hryvnia is at. Because I don't have a car and my housing expense is subsidized by my school I am able to save most of my salary (paid in cash).

This job wasn't difficult to get and the authorities don't care so much about Visa's. In fact I just spoke to a Canadian teacher at our Thanksgiving party and he came on a tourist visa (90 days) 3 years ago. He overstayed the visa and never left for the entire 3 years before finally leaving and re-entering last month. All he had to do was pay an overstay fine (800 hryvnia) and they stamped his passport and let him back in, no problems. As long as you don't get into trouble with police here they don't give a shit about your visa because you're a well-to-do westerner teaching Ukrainians how to speak English.

If you're in the IT industry then it could be very difficult landing a job here because it is one of the only competitive industries in Ukraine. IT is one of the few industries that Ukrainians are flooding into because it actually pays very well if you can land a job. My teaching gig is very relaxed with lots of time off, my salary isn't amazing but because my expenses are so low it feels like I make a lot more. I could actually save much more but I've been on a spending spree re-working my wardrobe (just dropped $500 on a winter coat and boots).

I didn't speak but a few words of Russian before coming here. My school provides me with classes and I've also been using Pimsleur and other apps & resources to learn more. Learning Russian isn't like learning Spanish, French, Italian, etc.. It might as well be like Chinese or Japanese or Arabic for a westerner. The point is that learning Russian is a journey, at least for me, but I'm fine with it because I can do it at my own pace and I'm already settled here and not going anywhere. If I was more serious I could have learned far more by now but I got comfortable with where I'm at so I'm not so gun-ho about it. I don't need to game girls in Russian here in Kiev, although I do speak a little when I game because I know they like it. I'm planning to branch out to small towns next summer so I'll have to have better conversational skills by that time. Most girls speak partial English here and if you have a good rapport from the beginning girls will open up and try to speak English, rather than being shy and intimidated, feeling like a failure because they want to talk to you but think they will look stupid if they try. However if you don't live in Kiev Russian will become a necessity the smaller the city you stay in.

My buddy took me to a Russian Sauna last night and it was my first experience being naked around other dudes... and I couldn't have cared less. There's an RoK article about the importance of male only spaces and before last night I had no idea the implications of having such an environment to fall back on. We chilled and talked a lot about life and women at the sauna. I went in and out for 3 hours, sweating my ass off to the point of wanting to pass out, then jumping into the cold water pool, then relaxing on a chair with my balls hanging out. Slept like a fucking baby and this morning my head is clearer than it has ever been in years. Having the male only space and speaking my honest mind about anything and everything is something I never really experienced, even hanging out with friends back home. Fat ass hairy Ukrainians were naked everywhere and it didn't mean anything. Everyone was just chilling, getting back to being comfortable in their own skins, and getting rid of the stress of thinking about women, professional life, personal life, all the other bullshit. Literally stripping away all the layers of horseshit and sweating it out.

Happiness my friends... can't put a price on it.

[eradicator]

(12-06-2015 01:49 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 09:28 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 06:36 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

"If you don't like it, leave."

That's what I did and my happiness has been restored. Will I ever go back to the US?
- NO. The US doesn't come out ahead of Ukraine on anything that concerns me.
I now live here on a comfortable salary with a great job and am able to easily save 66% of my take home pay while being around the most beautiful feminine women in the world.

Everything is Going Great in My World

Write a data sheet. Break it down, I am curious about what all is involved in getting the needed work visas and permits to work in EU and Ukraine specifically. Can you get by with only knowing Russian language? How long did it take you to learn the language and game the local hot women? I cannot be the only person considering such a move, you've already done it, tell us about it.

I'm a teacher here and am treated very well since they value native speakers of English. The pay is just shy of a professional salary in Ukraine but I'm given an apartment to live in which I share with one roommate, the rent is around $110-$120 a month depending where the hryvnia is at. Because I don't have a car and my housing expense is subsidized by my school I am able to save most of my salary (paid in cash).

This job wasn't difficult to get and the authorities don't care so much about Visa's. In fact I just spoke to a Canadian teacher at our Thanksgiving party and he came on a tourist visa (90 days) 3 years ago. He overstayed the visa and never left for the entire 3 years before finally leaving and re-entering last month. All he had to do was pay an overstay fine (800 hryvnia) and they stamped his passport and let him back in, no problems. As long as you don't get into trouble with police here they don't give a shit about your visa because you're a well-to-do westerner teaching Ukrainians how to speak English.

If you're in the IT industry then it could be very difficult landing a job here because it is one of the only competitive industries in Ukraine. IT is one of the few industries that Ukrainians are flooding into because it actually pays very well if you can land a job. My teaching gig is very relaxed with lots of time off, my salary isn't amazing but because my expenses are so low it feels like I make a lot more. I could actually save much more but I've been on a spending spree re-working my wardrobe (just dropped $500 on a winter coat and boots).

I didn't speak but a few words of Russian before coming here. My school provides me with classes and I've also been using Pimsleur and other apps & resources to learn more. Learning Russian isn't like learning Spanish, French, Italian, etc.. It might as well be like Chinese or Japanese or Arabic for a westerner. The point is that learning Russian is a journey, at least for me, but I'm fine with it because I can do it at my own pace and I'm already settled here and not going anywhere. If I was more serious I could have learned far more by now but I got comfortable with where I'm at so I'm not so gun-ho about it. I don't need to game girls in Russian here in Kiev, although I do speak a little when I game because I know they like it. I'm planning to branch out to small towns next summer so I'll have to have better conversational skills by that time. Most girls speak partial English here and if you have a good rapport from the beginning girls will open up and try to speak English, rather than being shy and intimidated, feeling like a failure because they want to talk to you but think they will look stupid if they try. However if you don't live in Kiev Russian will become a necessity the smaller the city you stay in.

My buddy took me to a Russian Sauna last night and it was my first experience being naked around other dudes... and I couldn't have cared less. There's an RoK article about the importance of male only spaces and before last night I had no idea the implications of having such an environment to fall back on. We chilled and talked a lot about life and women at the sauna. I went in and out for 3 hours, sweating my ass off to the point of wanting to pass out, then jumping into the cold water pool, then relaxing on a chair with my balls hanging out. Slept like a fucking baby and this morning my head is clearer than it has ever been in years. Having the male only space and speaking my honest mind about anything and everything is something I never really experienced, even hanging out with friends back home. Fat ass hairy Ukrainians were naked everywhere and it didn't mean anything. Everyone was just chilling, getting back to being comfortable in their own skins, and getting rid of the stress of thinking about women, professional life, personal life, all the other bullshit. Literally stripping away all the layers of horseshit and sweating it out.

Happiness my friends... can't put a price on it.

I am floored that it was that easy. That is an absolutely incredible move, I may have to look into this

[262]

Glad to hear things are working out in Kiev man! I may join you again if things don't work out here in Poland ... And Moldova (I'd at least want to check Chisinau out before some girl in Kiev locks me down with her off-the-charts femininity, lol).

[Rocha]

(12-06-2015 01:49 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

My buddy took me to a Russian Sauna last night and it was my first experience being naked around other dudes... and I couldn't have cared less. There's an RoK article about the importance of male only spaces and before last night I had no idea the implications of having such an environment to fall back on. We chilled and talked a lot about life and women at the sauna. I went in and out for 3 hours, sweating my ass off to the point of wanting to pass out, then jumping into the cold water pool, then relaxing on a chair with my balls hanging out. Slept like a fucking baby and this morning my head is clearer than it has ever been in years. Having the male only space and speaking my honest mind about anything and everything is something I never really experienced, even hanging out with friends back home. Fat ass hairy Ukrainians were naked everywhere and it didn't mean anything. Everyone was just chilling, getting back to being comfortable in their own skins, and getting rid of the stress of thinking about women, professional life, personal life, all the other bullshit. Literally stripping away all the layers of horseshit and sweating it out.

Happiness my friends... can't put a price on it.

Ahh Russkoe banya, the 2nd best thing on FSU after the girls.
The men's only experience is great, but try to go also with a girl. Beat her and let her beat you with those birch or eucalypthus twig, and take with you some sea salt for exfoliation all over the body and face.

[aphelion]

(12-06-2015 01:49 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

I'm a teacher here and am treated very well since they value native speakers of English. The pay is just shy of a professional salary in Ukraine but I'm given an apartment to live in which I share with one roommate, the rent is around $110-$120 a month depending where the hryvnia is at. Because I don't have a car and my housing expense is subsidized by my school I am able to save most of my salary (paid in cash).

Is there a thread on teaching in the Ukraine? If not, can you put a datasheet on it?

[DjembaDjemba]

I'm definitely not of the doom and gloom crowd.

Just finishing my first trade ticket that's recognized across the world, and it gives me access to jobs across the globe.

Being able to pickup the phone and arrange a job that pays me very well (by western standards) in a multitude of countries where people don't enjoy western wages is a damn good feeling. Dare I say liberating. Being able to enjoy foreign food, foreign women, foreign weather, and western wages all at once is the next best thing I have to a passive income.

If this is effect globalization, give me more of it, not less.

[Jura]

(12-06-2015 09:53 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:49 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

My buddy took me to a Russian Sauna last night and it was my first experience being naked around other dudes... and I couldn't have cared less. There's an RoK article about the importance of male only spaces and before last night I had no idea the implications of having such an environment to fall back on. We chilled and talked a lot about life and women at the sauna. I went in and out for 3 hours, sweating my ass off to the point of wanting to pass out, then jumping into the cold water pool, then relaxing on a chair with my balls hanging out. Slept like a fucking baby and this morning my head is clearer than it has ever been in years. Having the male only space and speaking my honest mind about anything and everything is something I never really experienced, even hanging out with friends back home. Fat ass hairy Ukrainians were naked everywhere and it didn't mean anything. Everyone was just chilling, getting back to being comfortable in their own skins, and getting rid of the stress of thinking about women, professional life, personal life, all the other bullshit. Literally stripping away all the layers of horseshit and sweating it out.

Happiness my friends... can't put a price on it.

Ahh Russkoe banya, the 2nd best thing on FSU after the girls.
The men's only experience is great, but try to go also with a girl. Beat her and let her beat you with those birch or eucalypthus twig, and take with you some sea salt for exfoliation all over the body and face.

^^ This. Went to this banya in Ukraine a few months ago. Place was spotless, nearly empty and they offered fulll body scrubs and professional massages for about 5$. Highly recommended if you want to relax and feel like a king for a few hours.

[Rocha]

(12-06-2015 12:21 PM)Jura Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 09:53 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:49 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

My buddy took me to a Russian Sauna last night and it was my first experience being naked around other dudes... and I couldn't have cared less. There's an RoK article about the importance of male only spaces and before last night I had no idea the implications of having such an environment to fall back on. We chilled and talked a lot about life and women at the sauna. I went in and out for 3 hours, sweating my ass off to the point of wanting to pass out, then jumping into the cold water pool, then relaxing on a chair with my balls hanging out. Slept like a fucking baby and this morning my head is clearer than it has ever been in years. Having the male only space and speaking my honest mind about anything and everything is something I never really experienced, even hanging out with friends back home. Fat ass hairy Ukrainians were naked everywhere and it didn't mean anything. Everyone was just chilling, getting back to being comfortable in their own skins, and getting rid of the stress of thinking about women, professional life, personal life, all the other bullshit. Literally stripping away all the layers of horseshit and sweating it out.

Happiness my friends... can't put a price on it.

Ahh Russkoe banya, the 2nd best thing on FSU after the girls.
The men's only experience is great, but try to go also with a girl. Beat her and let her beat you with those birch or eucalypthus twig, and take with you some sea salt for exfoliation all over the body and face.

^^ This. Went to this banya in Kharkov with my girl a few months ago. Place was spotless, nearly empty and they offered fulll body scrubs and professional massages for about 5$. Highly recommended if you want to relax and feel like a king for a few hours.

In Russia/FSU they have a saying that more or less means that a banya is the same as beeing born again. You will feel that "Everything is Going Great in the World" during, and in the days after.