[GameNovice]

(11-23-2015 12:15 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

So the default course of action in the face of an invasion is to turn tail and run?



What makes you think your going to be better off (long term) anywhere else?



If the west is over run by "migrants" there is NO chance to turn the tide.


There's plenty of reasons to move away from your home country, but fleeing islam thinking your safe anywhere else IS NOT one of them.

Just because feminism will, eventually, poison even the most feminine enclaves of women doesn't mean one has to spend the rest of their lives in Toronto.

Likewise, just because the disease of islam will eventually engulf the world doesn't mean you should just stay in Malmo.

[kosko]

I am starting realize that place that have not turned into apathetic atheist havens, or where religion has gone to the waste side as "old fashioned" (France, USA, etc), this is where Muslims have felt comfortable to created migrate chains too (which were helped along by the State).

Christianity is still very important.

Latin America is still 90% Christian, and Catholics are the majority and religion is still heavily practiced throughout the countries. Some random family from Yemen isn't going to vibe well in that environment.

[262]

One possibility I'm entertaining is that the pendulum of socialism and feminism will eventually start to swing back in the West, since both seem unsustainable.

It doesn't seem like that pendulum is swinging back yet though. But perhaps it could, if the West bucks up, or if a more conservative outside culture takes over. I'd bet on the latter, unfortunately.

Going abroad in that context could simply be like waiting for the pendulum to swing back.

Of course, I could be wrong about any or all of this. Heck, I can only sometimes predict which girls will flake on me.

But, in both cases (girls and going abroad), I just have to put in the effort, such that the odds eventually yield an outcome in my self-interest.

[GlobalMan]

(11-23-2015 02:30 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I am starting realize that place that have not turned into apathetic atheist havens, or where religion has gone to the waste side as "old fashioned" (France, USA, etc), this is where Muslims have felt comfortable to created migrate chains too (which were helped along by the State).

Christianity is still very important.

Latin America is still 90% Christian, and Catholics are the majority and religion is still heavily practiced throughout the countries. Some random family from Yemen isn't going to vibe well in that environment.

A lot of it comes down to that the Latin America governments don't/wouldn't be providing special programs and other bullshit just for them, and the migrants are only interested in shopping the best benefits package. They're not going to have multilingual signs and special dispensation.

These migrants can't be bothered to do what migrants to the U.S. and elsewhere did 100 years ago- learn the language, work their ass off, integrate at least to superficial extent, etc. The want to roll in, sign the papers that gives them their weekly government check and food allowance, find a place to stay in the migrant ghettos surrounded exclusively by their own kind and carry on as if they never left home- expect the free money part.

Going anywhere in South America they'd have to work their ass off to make it, and make some effort to integrate. This keeps them out.

[booshala]

Interesting take on Yerevan... gonna have to check it out soon. Grew up in Glendale, California (biggest Armenian population in the diaspora) and although they get a bad rap, I had a lot of Armenian friends growing up. Women are surprisingly hot when they're younger too. Also a good place to practice my Armenian curse words I picked up. "Eench ara? Mama kunem kess!"

[jasond]

Armenia has some decent advantages, but serious negatives too. Weather is actually horribly hot in the summer...3 months of 100 degree temps, and the mentality of the people is not modern at all. Cab drivers are the worst. It feels like the middle east, even though the people are christian. That means corruption, cock-blocking, gossipy cafe culture, and women not really going out (both day/night). However, there is a strong exotic factor that helps, since there are so few foreigners there.

[Rocha]

Since you are living in Spain, married, and fluent in Spanish, this discussion makes no sense.
It can not get better than that, it has all of your requirements and much more. The major problem is unemployement, of wich you are not affected.
Due to the Islamic past, strong culture and high self-esteem, there is no way that Spain can become like Germany or Sweden.
Sure there are some liberals, mainly in Catalonia due to historical reasons, but let them drown in their own mud.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/se...afe-cities

Quote:

The Spanish government, led by Mariano Rajoy, may have dragged its feet in response to pressure from Brussels to take Syrian refugees, but Barcelona, Madrid and several other cities governed by councils with roots in the indignado movement took the initiative with a network of “safe cities” to assist some of those arriving in Europe.

Ada Colau, the mayor of Barcelona, started the ball rolling when she announced the launch of a register of families willing to open their home to refugees or simply help them. It proved an immediate success. Thousands of Catalans emailed their details to the list.

Quote:

Colau said the predicament of people fleeing war and persecution was “shameful, condemning Europe for dodging the issue and criticising the “ridiculous” figure initially proposed by the Rajoy government to cope with the crisis.

The Spanish government has since agreed it would accept its share of migrants under the European commission’s proposed new quota system, according to AFP. Spain agreed to take in another 14,931 refugees as proposed by the commission, in addition to the 2,379 it had initially said it would accept.

The government had initially announced that it would only be accepting 2,379 refugees, as part of EU efforts to solve the crisis, whereas Brussels had initially wanted it to take 5,849.

But note that:

Quote:

Spain has done more than many other EU member states to tighten up border controls. According to a report by the Spanish Commission for Refugee Aid, published in June, 180,580 people have sought asylum in Spain in the past 30 years, whereas 202,645 filed an application in Germany in 2014 alone.

In a country with 47 million people and vast has Spain, 15.000 migrants will not make visible changes in the landscape

[YossariansRight]

(11-22-2015 07:29 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 11:01 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Why do JAPAN and Korea, both extremely rich countries don't have any Muslims?

Because they have implemented policies to do that.

Exactly and if Muslims would ever try to take over parts of a neighborhood the Ninkyo Dantai (Yakuza) would literally cut them into pieces. You just don't fuck with those guys. As pussified as the grasseater generation may be there prevails a certain element in Japan that is masculine as fuck. They are happy to die for their country or for their cause/clan, which is the very reason Muslims don't bother go there. I wish our Western mafia gangs would have put up more of a fight.

^^Here you go: https://www.rt.com/usa/323032-mafia-isis...g-gambino/

[kosko]

(11-23-2015 03:50 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 02:30 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I am starting realize that place that have not turned into apathetic atheist havens, or where religion has gone to the waste side as "old fashioned" (France, USA, etc), this is where Muslims have felt comfortable to created migrate chains too (which were helped along by the State).

Christianity is still very important.

Latin America is still 90% Christian, and Catholics are the majority and religion is still heavily practiced throughout the countries. Some random family from Yemen isn't going to vibe well in that environment.

A lot of it comes down to that the Latin America governments don't/wouldn't be providing special programs and other bullshit just for them, and the migrants are only interested in shopping the best benefits package. They're not going to have multilingual signs and special dispensation.

These migrants can't be bothered to do what migrants to the U.S. and elsewhere did 100 years ago- learn the language, work their ass off, integrate at least to superficial extent, etc. The want to roll in, sign the papers that gives them their weekly government check and food allowance, find a place to stay in the migrant ghettos surrounded exclusively by their own kind and carry on as if they never left home- expect the free money part.

Going anywhere in South America they'd have to work their ass off to make it, and make some effort to integrate. This keeps them out.

Latin America grew out of the womb of Post War/Cold War style Socialism and still holds strong to those roots and is much more heavy toward Egalitarianism and strains of Matriarch type soft power. A example is of Latin America was pandering to women and putting them in positions of power far before the West made it cool.

I would not say its all because the Govt doesn't want to offer welfare goodies because it is obvious that most Latin American countries still have heavy socialist style polices in place. Thus, it has to be another factor which is why I hinted at religion being a big deterrent.

Latin America sees small movement from Muslims from more secular countries such versus the most hard lined. I don't think Muslims like to go where they can practice their faith freely, but in the apathetic and atheist West they can do so where they want.

You look at the most aggressive Christian nations and Muslims are seldom to be found in high numbers, even in the the Philippines they only amount to 5% of the population even though SE Asia is a hot bed of Islamic populations.

Maybe the answer is to build more churches and to stop pandering to foreign faiths that are not classic to the basic nature of the nation.

[redpillage]

(11-23-2015 07:09 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Since you are living in Spain, married, and fluent in Spanish, this discussion makes no sense.
It can not get better than that, it has all of your requirements and much more. The major problem is unemployement, of wich you are not affected.
Due to the Islamic past, strong culture and high self-esteem, there is no way that Spain can become like Germany or Sweden.
Sure there are some liberals, mainly in Catalonia due to historical reasons, but let them drown in their own mud.

I think you are making the mistake of projecting forward based on the current status quo. Most likely Rajoy is going to be gone come November when Podemos takes control of Spain - he and is ilk are borderline communists and will pull the remainder of Spain toward the type of policies you see in Catalunia (a leftist stronghold pushing for secession). The article mentioned that thousands of people in Barcelona opted for taking in poor refugees - plus you should know that Muslim communities are already steadily growing there. I hope you will prove me wrong and that Iglesias will get his ass kicked next month and that he and his ponytail sliver back to under the rock from whence they emerged. But unfortunately I have serious doubts that is going to happen

[speakeasy]

(11-23-2015 11:01 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Latin America sees small movement from Muslims from more secular countries such versus the most hard lined.

Yeah. Carlos Slim is of Lebanese descent, though Christian. Shakira is also of Lebanese descent. You have quite a few Lebanese in Brazil and they tend to work out better. Those Wahhabist types don't seem to be the ones going to Latin America.

[rudebwoy]

Migrants aren't even stopping in any of the southern European countries. They are heading to the "wealthier" countries in Northern Europe and Western Europe, these countries of course have better social systems in place than "bankrupt" Spain.

So this thread makes no sense.

Spain has great weather, cheap housing costs, decent food or you can grow decent food, great access to a lot of different countries, decent looking women and a relaxed culture.

Now for the joker that mentioned Canada, cold weather, high housing costs, average food, great access to the USA and beyond that you have to pay a pretty penny, the women has been well documented and the culture is stressful.

[Lime]

(11-24-2015 12:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Migrants aren't even stopping in any of the southern European countries. They are heading to the "wealthier" countries in Northern Europe and Western Europe, these countries of course have better social systems in place than "bankrupt" Spain.

So this thread makes no sense.

Spain has great weather, cheap housing costs, decent food or you can grow decent food, great access to a lot of different countries, decent looking women and a relaxed culture.

Now for the joker that mentioned Canada, cold weather, high housing costs, average food, great access to the USA and beyond that you have to pay a pretty penny, the women has been well documented and the culture is stressful.

I also think Spain would be one of the places where I'd escape too.

Muslims there seem also to be more modest than Muslims in more northern European countries, I've always wondered how that came, I figured maybe because of the more visible catholic presence and perhaps because of a good relationship with Morocco.
It has, as a country, many advantages.

A serious disadvantage is that the population will get old fast, more so than most other European countries. Very few children are born there, so to raise a family it's probably not the best place. I've had a lot of fun with girls in Spain, though, both Spanish and Latin American.

Housing is very cheap, too. Great place to work if you have 'location independent' income.

[redpillage]

(11-24-2015 01:52 PM)Lime Wrote:  

I also think Spain would be one of the places where I'd escape too.

Muslims there seem also to be more modest than Muslims in more northern European countries, I've always wondered how that came, I figured maybe because of the more visible catholic presence and perhaps because of a good relationship with Morocco.
It has, as a country, many advantages.

Again, that's the status quo right now but that may change quickly. Plus ISIS has made it very clear that they intend to recapture 'Al Andalus' which they call 'tierra santa':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJRhm4877gg

(11-24-2015 01:52 PM)Lime Wrote:  

A serious disadvantage is that the population will get old fast, more so than most other European countries. Very few children are born there, so to raise a family it's probably not the best place. I've had a lot of fun with girls in Spain, though, both Spanish and Latin American.

Housing is very cheap, too. Great place to work if you have 'location independent' income.

Housing is very cheap and with fewer births and a shit economy is expected to remain cheap. Yes, we live very well here but I fear that Podemos is going to change the dynamics thoroughly IF they manage to take power next month. If not I will probably sit out the next year and gauge things on the ground as the migration train wreck unfolds in Northern Europe.

[rudebwoy]

^ The sky is falling!

OMG the muslims are coming. Hilarious, simply hilarious.

I said it before and I will say it again, they are heading where the money is. They will end up in England, Sweden and Germany.

I live in Canada, we are getting 25000 of them, while the USA is only getting 10000. Most of them, if not all of them will be heading to my city (Toronto).

Canada is my "home", I won't leave til I am ready. Where would i go? Certainly not Latin America.

[redpillage]

(11-24-2015 04:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ The sky is falling!

OMG the muslims are coming. Hilarious, simply hilarious.

I said it before and I will say it again, they are heading where the money is. They will end up in England, Sweden and Germany.

I live in Canada, we are getting 25000 of them, while the USA is only getting 10000. Most of them, if not all of them will be heading to my city (Toronto).

Canada is my "home", I won't leave til I am ready. Where would i go? Certainly not Latin America.

Well, enjoy life in your little Canadian bubble. Over here in Europe what affects the rest of Europe will also invariably touch Spain. Case in point - my father-in-law's best friend was shot in the head at the Bataclan on the 13th by one of the terrorists.

In case you haven't noticed, within the Shengen area there only exists marginal or non-existent border control. Thus if Germany is breaking out of the seams due to Muslim immigration and social tension is on the rise, how long do you think it will take until some of it spills over into neighboring countries?

[Phatom]

As a young man I would never leave the westlutty white women, all the latests movies, video games and indie music, awesome food from french toasts to cereal, best clothing brands at a cheap price: patagonia, NF, Vans, festivals conventions and concerts, high grades by Professors simply for being a minority, safe and clean streets and tons of holidays. I see why a lot of people would like to come here do nothing an get tons of benefits.

But if you really want to move out, it depends on how you look like if I was white I would go to Brazil or Colombia. Where you could mingle with the top circles of the country just for being white and somehow educated. Most of the people I knew were lowly paid english teachers--by western standards--who ended up married a latina and teaching english at private high schools.

[Orson]

(11-24-2015 04:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ The sky is falling!

OMG the muslims are coming. Hilarious, simply hilarious.

I said it before and I will say it again, they are heading where the money is. They will end up in England, Sweden and Germany.

I live in Canada, we are getting 25000 of them, while the USA is only getting 10000. Most of them, if not all of them will be heading to my city (Toronto).

Canada is my "home", I won't leave til I am ready. Where would i go? Certainly not Latin America.

Muslims come and don't integrate. They grow and takover. Non-muslim Swedes will be a minority in their own nation by the next decade, if present trends continue. The rape capital of Europe, and number 2 in the world. And it isn't because Viking conquering blood flows among the native born, either.

Why are the Muzzies responsible for this violence? Islamacist Supremacy teaches them that non-Muslims are not people, and they can treat them like property - and so in Sweden (like Rotherham in England)m they do.

New, US Syrian immigrant numbers will not stay 10,000. Obama has already said he'd like the US to take millions: "Obama vowed Saturday that his country will be a welcoming place for millions fleeing violence around the world 'as long as I'm president.' " http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-r...id/703095/

And he has a record of doing whatever he wants without accountability or statutory imposed limits.

Why? To spread the wealth more equally, and as (other statements indicate) redress whatever imagined evils America has inflicted on the rest of the world.

The point is that Sweden is just the beginning. According to Bavarian lawmakers, German Muslim population will quadruple in just five years - from five million to 20 millions - and that's without counting the coming, huge immigration already in the pipeline.

It would be different with Confucians, Hindi, or Christians. But with Muslims? The past is prologue to the future.

It will be disruptive and violent, like much of the past decade in France. And it will not be stopped.

That's the reality of the neighborhood. Because Muslim rape gangs roam Europe. And it isn't changing for the foreseeable future - merely getting worse.

[redpillage]

Damn, I just finished watching 'The Man From U.N.C.L.E.' and wound up being all depressed. In case you haven't seen it yet - it's set in the 1960s and it's full of everything men like us would love to have experienced: Feminine women, masculine men, countries with borders, and an unapologetic Western culture that was run by men. It all ended there and in five decades feminists and rabid Lefties/Marxists have managed to turn it all into shit. I fear the West will never recover from this and our children will regard that time the golden age of Western culture. And their own children and grandchildren will not remember jack because Sharia will have taken over the entire world and anything representing Western values or Christian religion will have been destroyed.

We are so fucked...

[Jungle]

(11-24-2015 04:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ The sky is falling!

OMG the muslims are coming. Hilarious, simply hilarious.

"Hilarious"? Well, I certainly do appreciate that you can find humour in things but this is actually quite sinister.

Your reality may be a bubble which is different to another person's reality, so therefore you dismiss a very real concern? Wow, so because you haven't been affected by it personally you deem it to be a non-issue globally?

In the west, particularly western Europe, it is affecting a lot of people's lives, creating a bleak future. Feel free to research some non-censored / non-bias information about the islamic migration if you would like to gain some more insight on the matter.

(11-25-2015 10:14 AM)Phatom Wrote:  

As a young man I would never leave the westlutty white women, all the latests movies, video games and indie music, awesome food from french toasts to cereal, best clothing brands at a cheap price: patagonia, NF, Vans, festivals conventions and concerts,

Hahahahha, something tells me you're not trolling which is why this is so funny.

[El Chinito loco]

(11-25-2015 11:23 AM)Orson Wrote:  

Muslims come and don't integrate. They grow and takover. - and so in Sweden (like Rotherham in England)m they do.

New, US Syrian immigrant numbers will not stay 10,000. Obama has already said he'd like the US to take millions: "Obama vowed Saturday that his country will be a welcoming place for millions fleeing violence around the world 'as long as I'm president.' " http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-r...id/703095/

Purely as a social experiment i'd be kind of curious how these middle eastern muslim terrori.. uh I mean "migrants" would handle life in the U.S. hood. Unlike Europe the U.S. has a ultra violent domestic home grown urban underclass already.

So, these muslim migrants would be competing with gangbanging ghetto brothers and la raza mexican mafia/ms-13 types too.

I'm sure the thug types wouldn't put up with islamists pushing up on their territory either. You have nation of islam types who adopt certain extremist notions of islam but the race thing is a deal breaker for the other minorities. I imagine most would not want to be led around by arab muslim extremists either.

It would be a little interesting to see what sort of ultra violent gangs and urban warfare would form in that sort of trifecta of shit.

Who would win?

[rudebwoy]

^^ For the record I do not live in a bubble. Toronto has a large amount of muslims and also I grew up in Europe (UK).

I have done the research, I read non-censored and non-bias news. Yes I am worried how it will affect the country I was born in, the UK. I also know the powers that be have put this in place to destroy certain Western Countries.

Spain is part of the PIGS nations that are bankrupt, no one is heading there to live. Not now, not in five years or ten years. They are only passing through those countries to get to where the money is and to places are more welcoming. UK, Germany, France, Sweden etc.

Spain is a big country, I am sure there are many places the OP can go.

No need to worry, with all the political stuff going on right now. We will be at War in less than a few years.

[redpillage]

(11-25-2015 06:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^^ For the record I do not live in a bubble. Toronto has a large amount of muslims and also I grew up in Europe (UK).

I have done the research, I read non-censored and non-bias news. Yes I am worried how it will affect the country I was born in, the UK. I also know the powers that be have put this in place to destroy certain Western Countries.

Spain is part of the PIGS nations that are bankrupt, no one is heading there to live. Not now, not in five years or ten years. They are only passing through those countries to get to where the money is and to places are more welcoming. UK, Germany, France, Sweden etc.

Spain is a big country, I am sure there are many places the OP can go.

No need to worry, with all the political stuff going on right now. We will be at War in less than a few years.

Look, you're probably just some kid behind a keyboard somewhere over in Canada and this will be my last response to you. What you need to appreciate is that this isn't a game - real people are affected by this situation right now, today. Quite a few people have been dying over the past few years and most likely there will be a lot more to come - one of them happens to have been a close friend of our family. Which why this is no laughing matter for me at least. Now you may call us paranoid or deride our motivations or reasoning. But if you have nothing productive to participate and say that this thread 'makes no sense' then why do you insist on posting/participating here? What are you - a troll? I'm sure you have better things to do than waste your time here.

[Parzival]

I'm now in Japan but have to leave soon. I can imagine living there. I had been to China too and like it as well. But I think also about Taiwan or South Korea. And from my impression I like the Chinese mentality a little bit more, or at least my encounters with people from Taiwan and China had be a little bit more easy than with Japanese. Nothing that I really can put down in words, Japan is great so far but I have to check out Taiwan and South Korea too.
There are tensions in Asia but I have a positive impression of those countries that I had seen.

Still living in a more rural area in Germany, there is not so much negative stuff going on. I'm not living in one of the states with big problems on immigrants and crime. So maybe I also stay when there is no decent opportunity for me in the future but I'm ready to move.

[rudebwoy]

^^ Boo hoo!

I am a big man, many people have met me and know who I am.

I have even had the pleasure of partying with Roosh in Europe.

Who are you?