[fellowband]

Other than the fact that Ukraine has received preliminary admission and membership into the European Union at this point, was EE really a great option compared to Western and Central Europe? When I say great, I am talking about the one night stands, fucking, ease of bankability, etc. From what I have heard, there are a lot of mixed reviews. Some say it was a very good experience, while others say that there are many hipsters, girls with tattoos and piercings, and other degenerate behaviour that is prevalent throughout the region. Also, it does not seem as though it is very traditional because Eastern European countries have extremely high divorce rates. Ukraine and Russia are both around 55-60% in that category. That being said, practically speaking, Eastern Europe does not seem good for long term relations. All this said, is Eastern Europe a viable option? Is it better than what Central Europe has to offer? Also, if anyone has any experience, is mid-tier Russia any better? When I say mid-tier I am talking specifically about cities that are off the beaten path such as Vladivostok, Tyumen, Novosibirsk, etc.

[El Chinito loco]

Why not read the dozens of threads available and those you can find in the search engine then purchase a ticket, rent a place on airbnb, and find out for yourself.

[Menace]

The only place you are pretty much guaranteed one night stands is Philippines. Every other place it may happen or may not, it depends on you and a hundred other variables. Is it possible in Russia or Ukraine? Yes.

I'm afraid your questions are all over the map. It seems like you want to do a traditional "bang trip" and rack up as many notches as possible in a short amount of time. From personal experience, I would say Russia is not that place. I can't speak for Ukraine, but it seems more likely there.

Anyway, why even guess? Just go there and find out. Even if you don't get a single bang you will have learned something about yourself.

[Barron]

Eastern Europe is for guys that are attracted to women with traditional values:
Femininity
Maternal Instincts
Submission to the man as the head of the relationship
Want to Cook/Clean

These types of women are less likely to be looking for an ONS and more likely to be saving themselves for a man they can commit to (and believe will commit to them) because life is much harder here. Thus racking up notches in a place like Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Romania, in a short amount of time is not as likely as say Poland, Czech Republic, any other countries further west.

(11-17-2015 02:41 AM)fellowband Wrote:  

When I say great, I am talking about the one night stands, fucking, ease of bankability, etc. From what I have heard, there are a lot of mixed reviews.

Just head to Vegas and save yourself the time and money.

(11-17-2015 02:41 AM)fellowband Wrote:  

Some say it was a very good experience, while others say that there are many hipsters, girls with tattoos and piercings, and other degenerate behaviour that is prevalent throughout the region.

What does this matter if you are looking for ONS's, fucking, ease of bankability, etc.?

(11-17-2015 02:41 AM)fellowband Wrote:  

Also, it does not seem as though it is very traditional because Eastern European countries have extremely high divorce rates. Ukraine and Russia are both around 55-60% in that category. That being said, practically speaking, Eastern Europe does not seem good for long term relations.

Huh? I thought you were looking for ONS's, fucking, ease of bankability, etc.?

(11-17-2015 02:41 AM)fellowband Wrote:  

All this said, is Eastern Europe a viable option? Is it better than what Central Europe has to offer?

Your contradictions signal that you really don't know what you want, other than a hot piece of ass.

My advice: Stick to the West.
EE is not good for notch hunters unless you're willing to nail girls below a 6.

[GlobalMan]

(11-17-2015 02:41 AM)fellowband Wrote:  

Other than the fact that Ukraine has received preliminary admission and membership into the European Union at this point

This is not a positive thing if you're interested in the women.

[dsutmdo]

I think beach locations are always good for ONS, Varna , Sunny Beach ,Dubrovnik, budva Odessa. Girls on vacation ...party mentality etc. heck I'm in Santa Marta right now and last night, I guess you can say this morning was lucky for me

[Jmxd144]

It depends on who you are and what you are looking for.

[jasond]

Eastern European women are definitely not overhyped, when compared to American women. On average, their personalities and looks are vastly superior. However, if you are only looking for a high notch count with easy women, it's probably not the place. SE Asia would be better.

[chochemonger1]

(11-17-2015 02:53 AM)Menace Wrote:  

The only place you are pretty much guaranteed one night stands is Philippines. Every other place it may happen or may not, it depends on you and a hundred other variables. Is it possible in Russia or Ukraine? Yes.

I'm afraid your questions are all over the map. It seems like you want to do a traditional "bang trip" and rack up as many notches as possible in a short amount of time. From personal experience, I would say Russia is not that place. I can't speak for Ukraine, but it seems more likely there.

Anyway, why even guess? Just go there and find out. Even if you don't get a single bang you will have learned something about yourself.

Guaranteed one night stands in Indonesia and in Manaus and parts of the Northeast of Brazil, if you speak Portuguese
I would not do Ukraine or Russia without Russian. My experience with mediocre Russian and being with mostly english speaking girls wasn't great. But next year, I will go with conversational Russian and see if that makes a big difference.

[Que enspastic]

How about are hot slim feminine girls painfully overhyped ?

[Jungle]

Is Eastern Europe Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, no.

Is the Anglosphere Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, yes.

[chochemonger1]

(11-17-2015 07:25 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Is Eastern Europe Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, no.

Is the Anglosphere Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, yes.

Who overhypes the anglosphere?

[Clint Barton]

My wing and I did just fine in Moscow with one week and no Russian ability. I enjoyed Romania too. EE is for real.

[Cortés]

(11-17-2015 08:46 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 07:25 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Is Eastern Europe Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, no.

Is the Anglosphere Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, yes.

Who overhypes the anglosphere?

My guess what hes referring to is all the random datasheets in random american cities. I remember some random North Dakota town was getting praise for feminine women on the forum. Whether or not it was satire, i dont know.

[Orson]

Off course! (And stay way - we like her just the way she is.)

[Jungle]

(11-17-2015 08:46 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 07:25 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Is Eastern Europe Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, no.

Is the Anglosphere Painfully Overhyped? = In my opinion, yes.

Who overhypes the anglosphere?

Maybe RVF members don't overhype anglosphere as much, because we're a specific community that has 'seen the light'. But try as an experiment to educate your average Joe in US/UK/CA/AU/NZ about how much better women in EE are compared to the west, and they simply won't believe you and think you're exaggerating/overhyping.

[ElJefe1]

EE is painfully over rated, don't go stay far away stick to Western Europe with the women are cute small and feminine.

[Direct or subtle]

(11-17-2015 03:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Guaranteed one night stands in Indonesia and in Manaus... I would not do Ukraine or Russia without Russian. My experience with mediocre Russian and being with mostly english speaking girls wasn't great. But next year, I will go with conversational Russian

..lives in Manaus, fucks tons of Brazilian chicks, AND learns Russian on the side:

[chochemonger1]

Yes, though Portuguese does not come that easy. Hard to keep 2 difficult languages in your head.
I will start serious Russian studies next month, in Colombia.

[Blunt]

(11-17-2015 03:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 02:53 AM)Menace Wrote:  

The only place you are pretty much guaranteed one night stands is Philippines. Every other place it may happen or may not, it depends on you and a hundred other variables. Is it possible in Russia or Ukraine? Yes.

I'm afraid your questions are all over the map. It seems like you want to do a traditional "bang trip" and rack up as many notches as possible in a short amount of time. From personal experience, I would say Russia is not that place. I can't speak for Ukraine, but it seems more likely there.

Anyway, why even guess? Just go there and find out. Even if you don't get a single bang you will have learned something about yourself.

Guaranteed one night stands in Indonesia and in Manaus and parts of the Northeast of Brazil, if you speak Portuguese
I would not do Ukraine or Russia without Russian. My experience with mediocre Russian and being with mostly english speaking girls wasn't great. But next year, I will go with conversational Russian and see if that makes a big difference.

I think it will. The English speaking girls in Russia are generally the low hanging fruit, minus the career type girls who have their own set of problems. The girls I've dated who only spoke Russian had the best personalities while also being generally hotter.

[EU Explorer]

(11-19-2015 01:03 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

EE is painfully over rated, don't go stay far away stick to Western Europe with the women are cute small and feminine.

Really?...you must tell us where these small and feminine women are in western europe.

[262]

^^^
He was being sarcastic.

Or maybe he wasn't. You know, kinda like how French girls don't smoke

[trawler]

(11-19-2015 01:43 AM)Direct or subtle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 03:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Guaranteed one night stands in Indonesia and in Manaus... I would not do Ukraine or Russia without Russian. My experience with mediocre Russian and being with mostly english speaking girls wasn't great. But next year, I will go with conversational Russian

..lives in Manaus, fucks tons of Brazilian chicks, AND learns Russian on the side:

^ Never stop hustlin'

[chochemonger1]

(11-19-2015 10:13 PM)trawler Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 01:43 AM)Direct or subtle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 03:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Guaranteed one night stands in Indonesia and in Manaus... I would not do Ukraine or Russia without Russian. My experience with mediocre Russian and being with mostly english speaking girls wasn't great. But next year, I will go with conversational Russian

..lives in Manaus, fucks tons of Brazilian chicks, AND learns Russian on the side:

^ Never stop hustlin'

Yes and try to learn Spanish, Portuguese or Russian so the hustlin' will produce better results.

[Pokerbaby]

No I would say that as of now EE is underhyped.

I have no idea how this whole idea that EE women are fatter, less attractive, covered in tattoos, flakier or anything else. Did I see that when I was there? Sure, from time to time. It's still waaaaaaay better than any other place in the Anglosphere.

EE women are just attracted to western men. Period. End of discussion. I know guys who have been all over EE and FSU countries. Without exception, every one of them dated up, sometimes significantly higher.