Quote: (06-24-2011 09:07 AM)Jersey Wrote:
It's so funny - when I was just getting started in game, I would read G Manifesto stuff and think it was hilarious but insane. He sounded like a crazy fictional character that could never actually exist, and what he suggested was madness.
And now that I know what I'm doing and I'm starting to see the bigger picture: everything he says starts to make sense. All those PUA rules I first learned about not buying girls drinks and ditching girls who ignored me, etc. - they helped when I had no idea what I was doing and was a total beta. But now that I've internalized what it is to be alpha - all of those rules need to be thrown out.
It's almost like we need two entirely separate worlds of discussion going on: one for betas trying to become players, and another for players trying to become pimps. The journey from beginner to intermediate is one about learning rules and technique. You need to do that so you can advance to a point where game starts to become unconscious. It's just like learning a sport.
But once you have all that stuff down, you can then understand the reason why those rules were in place and then ignore them when the reason doesn't apply. When you're progressing from intermediate to advanced game, you can realize that you shouldn't buy a girl a drink because you can't just throw some money at a girl in an attempt to supplicate and hope she becomes attracted to you. And you shouldn't buy a drink for a girl who's just tooling you for a free drink and doesn't care about you. But once you've done this a thousand times, supplicating doesn't even cross your mind and you can just feel the difference between when a girl likes you and when she doesn't. Now that you've internalized the "why", the rules just start getting in the way.
Keep up the good fight, G. I'm not sure how you do it, trying to explain advanced level game vs. the RSD-type angry keyboard jockeys, raging about alpha vs. beta - when alphas would never give a shit about that stuff. (Though we seem to have avoided it so far in this thread.) I need more of this and less posts about throwing the number of some girl who didn't respond to my text in 30 seconds into the fiery pits of hell.
Jersey -
Great post. You really verbalized many of the things I try to say.
The thing is, I have been in The Game since I was a young pup. I have 20 + years in it.
The pua guys have been in it what, 5 years at most?
The "rules" they come up with are things someone in my shoes learned a long time ago, naturally, in high school or at least the beginning of college.
It really is like anything, "rules" are good when you first start out, but when you become an expert, you can throw those in the trash.
When you first learn to box, you should keep your hands up, lead with the jab, double jab etc.
When you become a G Boxer, you can lower your hands, stick out your chin, lead with upper cuts and hooks, hell, even throw bolo punches a la Sugar Ray Leonard.
The rules simply don't apply.
That I think is one of the reasons the stuff I write about has such a huge disconnect with the masses.
I am gunning for titles, not my first win.
I like to give some "Advanced Game" perspective to the people out there.
