[Easy_C]

New.

[Onto]

Thanks for sharing your story. Please keep us updated.

[WanderingSoul]

Good story man. I hope it all goes well.

How long did you two date for before getting married?

[LINUX]

[not_dead_yet]

Prenup?

[Tactician]

A heartfelt thank you for posting this story. What stood out to me, in particular, was the amount of work you put in to finding this girl and screening out the other contenders.

Could you give any more details such as how long you dated before marriage (I'm guessing one year since you met at 26 and now you're 28 with a child), and what the dates were like?

Again, thanks and congratulations.

[HankMoody]

Great stuff!

[ballsyamog]

Congrats man!!

[el mechanico]

Oh man I read all of it. It took me 4 trips.

I wish all the best ad be firm.

[RatInTheWoods]

Thanks for posting this, great story and I wish you all the best.

Doesn't give much hope to the atheists amongst us...

[WanderingSoul]

(11-06-2015 01:29 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Thanks for posting this, great story and I wish you all the best.

Doesn't give much hope to the atheists amongst us...

It doesn't really matter for atheists anyways because you're all going to burn in hell soon.

[Robert Hedrock]

Goodluck to you.

Hope this continues to be good news for you in 10 years.

A decade is a good test if this is a success story or not.

As rvf members gets older and older, i will imagine there will be more stories of marriage, etc.

And so the test begins... More and more people will pull a Mark Minter.

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Good luck

[thoughtgypsy]

Just remember, you're never truly "out of the game." She'll still test you once in a while and you'll need to hold strong. You owe it to her and more importantly, your kids and yourself to stay in shape, have a backbone, and be a positive masculine influence in their lives. Game helped you attract a top tier woman, and it will help you keep her.

Thanks for sharing. It's hard to find red pill info on how to find and screen for LTRs. I'm happy to hear that everything worked out for you and I hope it lasts the test of time.

[iknowexactly]

"Doesn't give much hope to atheists" I disagree, and will explain.

Sincere thanks to OP to one of the most valuable posts I've ever seen.
+1 for great post, story and example of
- insightful goal setting
- innovative process creation
- execution of your processes

I disagree that it only applies to religious people because you can use the same
Diligence in your ownlife to get what you want.

Being in the Philippines and becoming more open minded about Judeo-Christian values has
Helped me see the value of religious girls but THEY MUST BE SEX POSITIVE as OP mentions. This is brilliant- looking for that combination. Religion can attract the narrow, paranoid, and weak with its promises for eternal life etc. But the basic principles of Christianity are the essential to the liberal democracy In which almost all of us have benefitted except for the current extreme feminism.

" I have told you three things- faith hope and charity, but the greatest of these is charity"
The idea of respect and kindness if or each individual is a great basis for a high-trust advanced society. Just because Jesus had some weird ideas about cosmic governance etc doesn't invalidate his social innovation. The joker above if serious ranting about burning in hell needs to study the real feel of the religion, when they don't have nuts burning people at the stake.

Another thing that's useful in the Bible is it says a one point that women should not be instructing men in religion. If a girl starts to question my beliefs I shut it down because I understand more about philosophy than she ever will, and because the bible clearly says "Wives submit to your husband in all things" . So basically she does not question or explain shit about philosophy to me.

Whatever fuddled cosmology she thinks of is fine with me as long as she does what she's supposed to do in the real world. fuck and wash the dishes. Unless the chick is neurotic she doesn't frequently refer to supernatural things anyway. "God" is in the background, a benevolent Santa Claus who'going to get her a subscription to People magazine when she goes to heaven. If she's frequently referring to gods will, as if it's real and seriously trying to figure it out that's bordering on psychotic and she's probably not a good match.

I don't really agree with the term atheist because I just consider myself a realist-- I wasn't brought up with supernatural indoctrination - I'm just a realist who bases his thinking on visible, provable and disprovable things. I'm fine with people being religious, I'm not militant, it's more important for them to be happy than for me to be right. Until they start shoving it down your throat -- but you don't want a woman like that around anyway. Nietsche who famously pronounced God was dead, himself sad women should be religious. It's about the most advanced form of positive cosmology they can comprehend. How can a childlike sentimental woman comprehend " life is a ceaseless futile battle against chaos and we are merely collections of atoms that happened by idiot chance to self organize" lol. That's just to gloomy for their sweet little hearts if they are nice girls.

There plenty or religious muderers as well as realist murderers, and there plenty of very kind people with both philosophies too.

[jariel]

I'm going to give a dissenting opinion here, not because I want to shit on the OP's parade, but because I think some perspective is needed here.

Like yourself, I'm still in my 20s, and I'm doing very well for myself, especially considering what I came from, which is not this country.

However, I don't think it's realistic to consider myself a success story yet, simply because there are so many chapters in the book of my life that have yet to be written.

The same can be said about your relationship.

I'm glad that you're happy, and you've found a situation that is working for you right now, but you're a little a far from the end zone to be celebrating a touchdown.

You're out of the grind that is the dating scene, but you've stepped up to whole new level of game, where if you lose, the stakes are much higher.

[Onto]

(11-06-2015 07:19 PM)jariel Wrote:  

You're out of the grind that is the dating scene, but you've stepped up to whole new level of game, where if you lose, the stakes are much higher.

Ahh, but if he wins the pot is so much bigger. Knowing what he knows, it took brass to do what he did.

On another note, I'm looking at the churches in my neighborhood with a new light.

[Easy_C]

(11-05-2015 07:38 PM)Tactician Wrote:  

A heartfelt thank you for posting this story. What stood out to me, in particular, was the amount of work you put in to finding this girl and screening out the other contenders.

Could you give any more details such as how long you dated before marriage (I'm guessing one year since you met at 26 and now you're 28 with a child), and what the dates were like?

Again, thanks and congratulations.

About a year and a half split between dating and engaged. I also should add that with all the contacts I had in this time I made it clear from the outset(not by directly stating it, but by the nature of the conversations I'd start) that my interest was romantic or nothing.

For dates I made a deliberate effort to keep it varied...both in our activities(a lot of outdoor dates that made for lots of time to talk and get to know her), and in our hostings. I also made sure to get a high level of exposure to her family. We'd eat with her family when I was in her town for example. I did that both because I wanted to spend enough time around them to observe the dynamics she was raised in, and because she was close enough to her family that I knew she'd value their insight into our relationships and our personality. If the family thinks you've got it together and their opinion is important, that's a strength.


That said I've also used some low level mind control/influence techniques early in the relationship to cement her feelings. I DO NOT recommend you even attempt doing that with any girl unless you know what the hell you're doing....and even then the only reason I felt what I did was morally acceptable was that I deliberately let my guard down and used language that influenced myself as well. The intent was to create an extremely strong bond and a permanent "teamwork" mentality on both parts. [/b]

(11-06-2015 04:36 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

Just remember, you're never truly "out of the game." She'll still test you once in a while and you'll need to hold strong. You owe it to her and more importantly, your kids and yourself to stay in shape, have a backbone, and be a positive masculine influence in their lives. Game helped you attract a top tier woman, and it will help you keep her.

Thanks for sharing. It's hard to find red pill info on how to find and screen for LTRs. I'm happy to hear that everything worked out for you and I hope it lasts the test of time.

For that and all related questions: Why do you think I still hang around here and still follow my original mentor's Youtube channel?

There's also a second aspect in play. I'll post more details later but I'm in the middle of an extremely competitive job search that has a lot of parallels to game. Simply going through the process I am now helps to keep my game sharp.

(11-06-2015 07:19 PM)jariel Wrote:  

I'm glad that you're happy, and you've found a situation that is working for you right now, but you're a little a far from the end zone to be celebrating a touchdown.

You're out of the grind that is the dating scene, but you've stepped up to whole new level of game, where if you lose, the stakes are much higher.

See above. What I have so far is only one success, and any individual success can either be built into even greater results or can be rendered worthless by subsequent failures. That said I think the odds are about as good as I can ask for...and will only become better if I succeed in leaving the West for a more traditional culture.

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Being in the Philippines and becoming more open minded about Judeo-Christian values has
Helped me see the value of religious girls but THEY MUST BE SEX POSITIVE as OP mentions. This is brilliant- looking for that combination. Religion can attract the narrow, paranoid, and weak with its promises for eternal life etc. But the basic principles of Christianity are the essential to the liberal democracy In which almost all of us have benefitted except for the current extreme feminism.

Agreed. Christianity originally teaches that sex is a beautiful, wonderful thing...and that it is too important to treat like a cheap commodity. Both sluts and sex-negative, puritanical prudes have equally lost sight of the original teaching.

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I disagree that it only applies to religious people because you can use the same
Diligence in your ownlife to get what you want.

Exactly. The key factors were preparedness, patience, and persistence. Remember that it took me YEARS(although I didn't get hardcore serious about it until later) of work. You also can't compromise or back down. In the (few) serious relationships I've had before and it didn't end well. If you don't know that the woman in question will 100% have your back then you have no business even considering her for an LTR. If you don't believe in premarital sex ditch her, if you do then just have fun spinning that plate.