[rudebwoy]

Have an easy question, how quickly do you sexualize the conversation when meeting a new girl?

I guess this could be a 2 part question, what has been your experience in doing this.

[CynicalContrarian]

If they're the prudish church going type & I get a sort of 'deer in the headlights' look.
I figure I may have gone just a touch too far...

[LINUX]

I usually do this within the first ten minutes. I find a good time for this is when they ask, and they always do ask this, "What do you like to do?" or "Tell me about yourself?"

and then I usually reply "Honestly, I think I like making love more that 99.9% of most people on this earth."

I've never once lost a lay or had a date go sour because I said this. If anything, things only get easier from here because I am upfront and honest with my intentions. The date then transforms into a conversation that I actually enjoy and soon after we take it to the house and finish the night in bed.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I was going to do a post on this.

Being overtly sexual can backfire, unless it's a situation where you've both had a few drinks and that's what the atmosphere is like.

What I found works -- online and off -- is using what I call "keywords," which are words that have an unconscious sexual charge, but are not directly sexual. If women are feeling sexual, they'll often take these and run with them.

Two examples:

I was talking with a woman and mentioned that I'd fallen on the ice and was SPLAYED on the ground. She immediately went into hysterics at the word, and said it reminded her of having her legs spread at the gynecologists. Since that was, in fact, a direct sexual image she gave me, it was very easy to go from there and know she was interested.

Another time, I was in a conversation with a woman my age about the weird food parents used to make when we were growing up. I mentioned something called a "rump roast." I have no idea what it was, but my mother used to cook it. Again, the woman started laughing and we got into a conversation about all the food names that sounded sexual. From there, that became an inside joke. Me: "I just came back from grocery shopping." Her: "I bet Safeway is like the strip club for you!" Hahaha.

Unfortunately, I can only remember two of these words. Someone who has the creativity that I clearly lost should come up with a list.

[brob]

"So where's the craziest place you've ever had sex"

[Giovonny]

I sexualize from the moment we lock eyes. I dont move my eyes alot, I look at her strong but yet subtle. It puts a little pressure on her to either look away or hold the eye contact. I might smirk or smile just a little or raise an eye brow just so..

This stuff is so subtle and instinctive its difficult to teach and explain.

The way I look at her, the tone of my voice, the way I interact with her, the way I'm dressed, the way I move; all these things are communicating my sexuality; consciously and subconsciously.

My conversation, my sense of humor, my social grace, all these things are communicating my sexual prowess.

I don't even have to mention sex, though, I might. if I want to.. It's fun to use double entendres, sexual innuendos etc.

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I just recently added this ability to my skill set. I'm still a beginner in terms of this stuff but it took me years just to get to this point. I can feel that I am acting from intuition and instinct rather than logic and reason.

I couldn't always express my sexual self in this way. It took years of tweaking my speech pattern, my conversational skills, my tone of voice, etc. + improving my wardrobe + boosting my confidence and self belief,

It's hard, it takes years to learn, at least, for me it did.

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I used to wait until late in the first date to sexualize.. What a naive little boy I was..

[rudebwoy]

^ I have developed the strong eye contact thing and I try to talk with my eyes. I myself don't sexualize the conversation until I am on a date or unless the girl does it first.

The reason why I ask, a friend of mine was telling me about a muslim girl he met recently. She is pretty cute and she wears a hijab. My friend bumped into her at the supermarket and sexualized the conversation right away.

[Oz.]

(11-02-2015 07:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I sexualize from the moment we lock eyes. I dont move my eyes alot, I look at her strong but yet subtle. It puts a little pressure on her to either look away or hold the eye contact. I might smirk or smile just a little or raise an eye brow just so..

This stuff is so subtle and instinctive its difficult to teach and explain.

The way I look at her, the tone of my voice, the way I interact with her, the way I'm dressed, the way I move; all these things are communicating my sexuality; consciously and subconsciously.

My conversation, my sense of humor, my social grace, all these things are communicating my sexual prowess.

This, exactly this same strategy is the one I use and it took me a long time to learn also. I never mention sex on any conversation in person or through text

[CH-Toronto]

(11-02-2015 07:49 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

What I found works -- online and off -- is using what I call "keywords," which are words that have an unconscious sexual charge, but are not directly sexual. If women are feeling sexual, they'll often take these and run with them.

I was talking with a woman and mentioned that I'd fallen on the ice and was SPLAYED on the ground. She immediately went into hysterics at the word, and said it reminded her of having her legs spread at the gynecologists. Since that was, in fact, a direct sexual image she gave me, it was very easy to go from there and know she was interested.

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I don't even have to mention sex, though, I might. if I want to.. It's fun to use double entendres, sexual innuendos etc.

Double entendres and innuendo is the best way to sexualize the conversation without making it obvious. It's essentially Inception- where you're planting the basic idea of sex into a woman's mind- without using the word 'sex'.

[fucksong]

(11-02-2015 07:36 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I usually do this within the first ten minutes. I find a good time for this is when they ask, and they always do ask this, "What do you like to do?" or "Tell me about yourself?"

and then I usually reply "Honestly, I think I like making love more that 99.9% of most people on this earth."

I've never once lost a lay or had a date go sour because I said this. If anything, things only get easier from here because I am upfront and honest with my intentions. The date then transforms into a conversation that I actually enjoy and soon after we take it to the house and finish the night in bed.

Damn dude, that's a PIMP line! Thanks for that one. I'm gonna try that one next time.

For me, a lot is also non-verbal, deep eye contact and visualize you're fucking her while you have a smirk. As for actual verbals, one successful strategy that I've used in the past was starting an innocent question game like what's your favorite food/color / then slowly amp it up like "what's the craziest thing you've ever done". Most of the time, they'll say something light and will naturally ask you what is the craziest thing I've done to which I answer that I used to make love with my ex-gf in the middle of a park at night because we didn't have our own place (truth) which leads to the topic of past sexual experiences. You can gauge the girl's reaction to this subtle escalation of the conversation and then naturally ask what is her fantasy as it's relevant and natural to the topic of conversation. Any answer is positive as they're opening up and you now know what they like. An ex-gf opened up that she always wanted to try a 3-some and I hooked up with her that same night. On a recent date, the girl didn't open up and changed topics and she's been a slow burner that I've grown tired of and about to cut off as she's just wasting my time.

[RatInTheWoods]

My current quality plate says she dumps guys that mention sexual stuff in the first two dates.

She bangs on the third, so glad my tactic is not to get sexual too early.

:-)

[fucksong]

@Ratin - What's your opening style? How ate you meeting girls? If you're low key and aloof or if this is social circle, maybe it would NOT be congruent with your personality style but I'm actually a very passionate open guy and a musician so it's very natural for me to talk about this kind of subject matter. Or simply some girls vibe with one style whereas others don't. Obviously some guy whipping out his dick saying suck my dong of destruction biotch wouldn't be effective but with that being said, the D-move has been proven multiple times to be successful so everybody has their own style

[Noir]

Direct body language, indirect verbals.

Let your eye contact and vocal tonality sexualize the conversation.

The talking comes later on, once you have built comfort and attraction- that way she rationalizes it and you are not creepy.

Giovonny pretty much captivated the essence of it.

[StangPlus]

I think what Giovonny said about the smile is a big thing as well not only the eye and vocal tone. I find that if a girl responds to a smirk or mischievous type smile immediately, it's practically a guaranteed bang.

Eye contact, tonality and how your smiling are game changers for me

[Moma]

I don't necessarily sexualise the convo but I sexualise the mood but touching her. Usually on the hands and if I'm feeling brave, I will try and seize her near the waist. My words are very clean but my actions are something else.

[DonnyGately]

Sexualize the conversation as soon as possible but no sooner. Kino helps with that.

[PapayaTapper]

(11-02-2015 07:36 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I usually do this within the first ten minutes.

This...If done confidently and matter-of-factly it seems like the most natural thing in the world.

[Troublesome]

Ultimately turning convo sexual depends on my surroundings. Trouble a romancer by default quickly turning conversations sexual first time meeting a women. Girls know within first 10 seconds if they will have sex with you or not. I don't see problem with introducing sexual topics as most girls listen sexual music more then men.

[WestIndianArchie]

(11-12-2015 12:07 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

Ultimately turning convo sexual depends on my surroundings. Trouble a romancer by default quickly turning conversations sexual first time meeting a women. Girls know within first 10 seconds if they will have sex with you or not. I don't see problem with introducing sexual topics as most girls listen sexual music more then men.

If you believe this bs,, why not just talk to a girl every ten seconds?

What's the point of game of what you say is true?

WIA

[the Thing]

I have somewhat of a different take on what Troublesome wrote.

I posit that every mistake on the nth step of the interaction while you're playing a girl adds 1/(2^n) to your risk of failure.

E.g. If you fail the initial approach you have a 50% chance of failing. If you fail the next sentence too, now you have a 75% chance to fail and it'll be a hard one to recover from.

Also explains why focusing on the talking after the 30th minute or so is irrelevant, since you should have done what you should by then and any more points you would get doesn't matter as big as the ones you get in the first minutes.

And according to the formula, if you chicken out and dont open you have failed the 0th step and you have a 100% chance to fail eg. you have already failed.

[WestIndianArchie]

@troublesome

So you double down on this idea and basically you are in the don't fuck it up camp?

WIA

[Troublesome]

(11-12-2015 12:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 12:07 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

Ultimately turning convo sexual depends on my surroundings. Trouble a romancer by default quickly turning conversations sexual first time meeting a women. Girls know within first 10 seconds if they will have sex with you or not. I don't see problem with introducing sexual topics as most girls listen sexual music more then men.

If you believe this bs,, why not just talk to a girl every ten seconds?

What's the point of game of what you say is true?

WIA

I was told by female mack ex romance ex porn-star girls know immediately if they will have sex with you or not. More time she invests into you, more likely she will sex you. Majority of guys talk themselves outta pussy more than talking themselves in it. Game all about picking up choosing signals act accordingly. If a broad don't like short, bald guys, and you bald chances are she not letting you hit. If a female tired just finish working 14 hour shift you not just going try sex her, but dude with no game would try push up on her half unconscious not picking up obvious signs.

Sexual convos depend on the comfort level. If I feel a females comfortable enough open up about sex I will indirectly move the convo too that direction, if she got shield up ima wait til she warmed up. Player must choose his target wisely and using the right game on the appropriate target.

[Dapplesauce]

(11-13-2015 05:19 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

I was told by female mack ex romance ex porn-star girls know immediately if they will have sex with you or not. More time she invests into you, more likely she will sex you. Majority of guys talk themselves outta pussy more than talking themselves in it. Game all about picking up choosing signals act accordingly. If a broad don't like short, bald guys, and you bald chances are she not letting you hit. If a female tired just finish working 14 hour shift you not just going try sex her, but dude with no game would try push up on her half unconscious not picking up obvious signs.

Sexual convos depend on the comfort level. If I feel a females comfortable enough open up about sex I will indirectly move the convo too that direction, if she got shield up ima wait til she warmed up. Player must choose his target wisely and using the right game on the appropriate target.

What do you do when you're afraid to offend, or "burn the bridge" with the girl so early on? I know this is mentioned throughout the Forum, but as I'm new to TRP, the game et al, a point in the right direction would help.

[WestIndianArchie]

(11-13-2015 05:19 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 12:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 12:07 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

Ultimately turning convo sexual depends on my surroundings. Trouble a romancer by default quickly turning conversations sexual first time meeting a women. Girls know within first 10 seconds if they will have sex with you or not. I don't see problem with introducing sexual topics as most girls listen sexual music more then men.

If you believe this bs,, why not just talk to a girl every ten seconds?

What's the point of game of what you say is true?

WIA

I was told by female mack ex romance ex porn-star girls know immediately if they will have sex with you or not. More time she invests into you, more likely she will sex you. Majority of guys talk themselves outta pussy more than talking themselves in it. Game all about picking up choosing signals act accordingly. If a broad don't like short, bald guys, and you bald chances are she not letting you hit. If a female tired just finish working 14 hour shift you not just going try sex her, but dude with no game would try push up on her half unconscious not picking up obvious signs.

Sexual convos depend on the comfort level. If I feel a females comfortable enough open up about sex I will indirectly move the convo too that direction, if she got shield up ima wait til she warmed up. Player must choose his target wisely and using the right game on the appropriate target.

So you don't believe in game essentially?

It's more about just picking up on chicks that give you the good vibes, that cooperate quickly.

We'll just agree to disagree.

WIA

[Troublesome]

(11-13-2015 10:07 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 05:19 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 12:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 12:07 PM)Troublesome Wrote:  

Ultimately turning convo sexual depends on my surroundings. Trouble a romancer by default quickly turning conversations sexual first time meeting a women. Girls know within first 10 seconds if they will have sex with you or not. I don't see problem with introducing sexual topics as most girls listen sexual music more then men.

If you believe this bs,, why not just talk to a girl every ten seconds?

What's the point of game of what you say is true?

WIA

I was told by female mack ex romance ex porn-star girls know immediately if they will have sex with you or not. More time she invests into you, more likely she will sex you. Majority of guys talk themselves outta pussy more than talking themselves in it. Game all about picking up choosing signals act accordingly. If a broad don't like short, bald guys, and you bald chances are she not letting you hit. If a female tired just finish working 14 hour shift you not just going try sex her, but dude with no game would try push up on her half unconscious not picking up obvious signs.

Sexual convos depend on the comfort level. If I feel a females comfortable enough open up about sex I will indirectly move the convo too that direction, if she got shield up ima wait til she warmed up. Player must choose his target wisely and using the right game on the appropriate target.

So you don't believe in game essentially?

It's more about just picking up on chicks that give you the good vibes, that cooperate quickly.

We'll just agree to disagree.

WIA

Awareness is the ability to perceive, to feel, or to be conscious of events, objects, thoughts, emotions, or sensory patterns.[1] In this level of consciousness, sense data can be confirmed by an observer without necessarily implying understanding. More broadly, it is the state or quality of being aware of something. In biological psychology, awareness is defined as a human's or an animal's perception and cognitive reaction to a condition or event.

I will agree to disagree. We have different concepts of game.
From my understanding game in your eyes is predicated upon what you say to women.

My perception of game is awareness, reading girls accurately and acting according to a situation. That's I how survive multiple shit test used by women. Women got game. You can say one thing but they will shit test, on the fly, access true value . 80% of communication is non verbally communication. Being able to read game allowed me to see the bigger picture. While being fixated on what I say limited my potential.