[EL CHAPO]

It seems to me that the United States of America has a real problem with gangs and gang culture.

Gang culture is something uniquely American that even Hitler when called a "gangster" by then president FDR. Hitler laughed and said "What do you expect, after all, this expression was not coined in Europe, but in America, no doubt because such 'gangsters' are lacking here, only in America do these elements exist."

Sure, there are criminals all over the world, but why such a distinct like for this type of "culture".

Gang culture is a virus that has plagued our youth for decades now, especially minorities. When will we eradicate it once and for all?


Gang culture-


African Americans:

Hispanic Americans (Mexican-Americans):

[EL CHAPO]

Asians:

White Americans:

Who thought this was a good idea and who came out with this crap?

This type of culture is ruining our kids.

[The Beast1]

Left out the italians and russians, though I associate the "mob" as something more organized than a gang. Dare I say it, i'd rather pay protection to the mob during a Ferguson type breakdown than give money to those idiots.

[Paracelsus]

(10-15-2015 02:57 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Left out the italians and russians, though I associate the "mob" as something more organized than a gang. Dare I say it, i'd rather pay protection to the mob during a Ferguson type breakdown than give money to those idiots.

In the case of the Italian mob, i.e. the Sicilian Mafia, you'd be more or less right.

The main reason the Sicilian Mafia exist was essentially because a societal breakdown took place. Around the 1820s, the feudal system of land ownership in Sicily broke down with no central authority in its place, and private ownership of land skyrocketed. The problem was the authorities didn't have much experience with contracts -- most land was owned in fiat by barons -- and didn't have the manpower to police it. The mafia came into existence to fill the void of protection for villagers, albeit in a highly criminal manner.

[EL CHAPO]

(10-15-2015 02:57 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Left out the italians and russians, though I associate the "mob" as something more organized than a gang. Dare I say it, i'd rather pay protection to the mob during a Ferguson type breakdown than give money to those idiots.

I got you.

Italians:

Russians:

[Hotwheels]

If "whites" ever got tribal, which quite frankly will never happen as we are more diverse than anyone will admit, these uprisings by others would be quelled quickly.

Back in the day Norwegians hated Germans in the upper midwest. While the hate may not be there today, there is zero tribalism going on. Until there is a concerted effort to fuck our shit up.

Then... Extremist Muslims will not hold a candle to us.

Just need to hit that tipping point. And that point is much higher for us.

I have multiple AR's. Just waiting...

[WanderingSoul]

Because we have too many low class minorities in this country, and our politicians seem to be dead set on bringing even more of them in.

[The Beast1]

I honestly see American whites tribaling up in the midwest and country towns if SHTF. Americans have lost their european loyalism, but American culture will prevail.

Sidenote: I moved to Europe to escape the stagnation America has. Little did I realize that Europe is ground zero for culture rot. This place has become a secular and decadent shit hole with kebab joints and mosques filling the void.

I fear Europe is lost. Too much apathy.

[It_is_my_time]

If it were to end, it would be in a tribal war or the opposite a totalitarian police state, either would be after an economic collapse. I don't know what the elites are pinning for, but they are bankrupting the west and it appears one of these two are the end goal.

Many people I know are stocking up on weapons and ammunition as the outcome is obvious. $20 trillion in debt and both sides give the same failed ideas to cheering morons. Something big is coming.

The USA gives the perfect play ground for gangs to thrive and grow...

You have the Democrats creating giant and growing violent ghettos by taxing businesses out of existence and destroying jobs. Paying women to have kids out of wedlock, to the point that some segments of our society are hitting 80% out of wedlock birthrates. And then these kids from broken homes have no father figure, so the daughters look for the first thug to get knocked up by and the boys look up to the 19 year old gangsters in the community and join the local gang.

You have the Republicans pushing a failed war on drugs that creates a giant black market to allow the gangs to thrive economically. Can't have gangs without some reward for banging and the failed war on drugs provides this.

You have both parties pushing for an open border with Mexico. So drugs can flow in and out easily and so can the drug cartels.

It is the perfect storm.

[JacksonRev]

As everyone else has said, it was societal breakdown, where the country tried to impose the first sjw crusade, prohibition, followed by the war on drugs. The current war on drugs has such high incarceration rates that many drug sales communities have no adult male leadership, hence the annoying nature of their gangs, versus the older diversified mob communities.

Chaos arising from diversity and sjw crusades is incredibly profitable, for both the capitalist/socialist managerial classes, as shown by the current prison and military industrial systems, where the main enemies are semi literate thugs and shepherds, respectively.

[Pride male]

What about Indians? Are there any Indian street gangs? Or are they the least violent criminals around?

[Col. Tigh]

(10-15-2015 07:51 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

What about Indians? Are there any Indian street gangs? Or are they the least violent criminals around?

Sure. There's a quite infamous global, Indian-dominated corrupt racketeering influenced organization. It's called the Information Technology industry.

[wi30]

EL Chapo, how many race threads are you going to start?

[Col. Tigh]

^ I have to ask the same question. In the subsequent post OP mentioned Asian and white gangs, but frankly, the first post is clearly just gunning for blacks and Hispanics. Plus, the portrait of Frederick Douglass just seems gratuitous.

[WildBoar]

The image below is Bulgarian mafia, not Russian. Not that it matters much ...

[kosko]

Its a symptom of the blank canvas West. Gang culture is big in Canada too. Where else do you get Sri Lankans and Laos dudes gangbanin'? In Canada you got supposed IRTs running drug rings, way off the mark of the typical shy South Asian dude many are used to running into Its tribal mentality for a group of men in a sea with brisk waters all trying to swim.


They all stem im my opnion from the same roots of boys growing in unstable homes/communties. Parents sold a myth of opportunity here in the West and stuck working crazy hours and never being at home. Limited ways to get money and status for the dudes, they start doing low level shit like running and it swells from there. If you grew up in a low class and working class setting it was almost a given you join one or at least be courted by one. I can't even remember how many times I almost fell into it.

I don't see this as a American issue. It is rampant in places that don't have strong homes and community settings. In nations that have more cohesive groups you will see more communal support for young boys growing up, that isn't the case here in the West. Only cavet is that in more poor nations the gangs are more aggressive as a means of survival. Gangs here ain't running around for life or death, and more so for status, resources, and power.

[H1N1]

Why should, or would, it end? In many respects the gang is the natural, instinctive collective of a group of humans existing within a hostile or unfavourable environment. I would suggest that gangs most likely exist at all strata of society. Pockets of rich men band together for a common aim, you might argue that educated Jews often form gangs, a political party is every bit as much of a gang as the Bloods, hell, you even get things like the Bullingdon Club here in England which is again essentially a gang with clear rules on who can and can't be a member.

You might try to argue that the difference is the criminality involved between a gang like the Bloods, and say the Government. But underneath it all, international politics is basically no different than a turf war in South Central LA, except the parties involved wear suits, use longer words and have more firepower. Both types of gangs wage bloody, morally unjustifiable conflict for territory which they have no reasonable claim to, and make the lives of the people within that territory miserable whilst they attempt to further their own financial/political power.

Honestly the more I think on the subject, the more I feel that what is needed is for the rest of us to find our tribes and form our own gangs, who will support our own interests and protect our own members. The biggest problem to my mind is that the middle class, of which I'm a part, have largely been robbed of the notion of the gang, and the concept itself has been painted as being some shady, morally reprehensible way of life by those in power. I couldn't begin to talk about setting up a gang even with my closest friends, because they are bought and sold on the comfortable middle class way of living, wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardise that, and would get hot flushes even thinking about conflict or hardship.

Anonymous Bosch has mentioned on a couple of threads about the actor Tom Hardy, and how he doesn't feel he's found his tribe yet. I found that a thought provoking idea, and am forced to concede that I too have no tribe, or gang, and it is the most glaring hole in the tapestry of my life.

[WildBoar]

And what about the banksters and this lot?

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

It will never end, It's all part of the plan maaaaaan

[Suits]

(10-15-2015 08:47 AM)WildBoar Wrote:  

And what about the banksters and this lot?

[rw95]

When will it end? When solid patriarchy returns and/or when attractive, fertile women stop lusting for bad boys.

Anyone want to start making bets as to which happens first?

[Deepdiver]

If you look around the world you will notice that outside of the industrialized countries that are governed by the so called "Rule of Law" graft and corruption not withstanding - the standard form of government especially in third world countries is Warlordism - the Mob and Gangs both have tribal rules but each tribe is usually ruled by the most cunning and most ruthless toughest mutha of the bunch - until he is eventually taken out and replaced by the next in line. Every so often a female assumes control usually a wife, daughter, sister of a Gang or Mob war lord - often these women are deadly as the were raised by psychopaths to become psychopaths and have no qualms about killing dozens of men - though eventually the Machismo or Patriarchic nature of rule by force the females are eventually taken out and replaced by the toughest men.

I have a Sicilian last name - you either followed the black hand (rackets) or the white hand (Military, Police/Fire and Government employment all of my Grand Uncles served in multiple WWII Campaigns and my Uncles all served during Korea and Vietnam - My Dad served in WWII and was called back from inactive reserve duty for Korea).

The "Mafia" formed in Sicily and Italy during the period of Empire Conquests going back centuries... the word "Ma fia" means literally "my daughter" - the legend is that during Napoleonic rule French occupying soldiers would take what they wanted from the locals food, money, livestock and women - it was called Raping and Pillaging for a reason - including dragging local virgins into Churches and raping them again as the legends go - their Mother would run out of the church screaming "Ma fia Ma fia" or my daughter my daughter as a cry to the local men to take revenge or vendettas against the hated French Soldiers - many different armies occupied Italy, Sicily and Sardinia over the eons and the law of Omerta or silence became a critical survival necessity. Omerta was critical because after a vendetta was executed the remaining invading Army members would try and beat confessions out of the local villager men at random and sometimes women and often kill 10 locals for every Soldier that was killed (an ancient Roman method of control of occupied peoples) - this would further enrage the locals who would invent or re-implement resistance methods that went all the way back to ancient Rome - poisoning the soldiers food and water with poisons so subtle they would die in writhing agony - throats slit in the middle of the night and the soldiers would bleed out in sure knowledge of a certain and horrific death - over time these resistance methods were effective in demoralizing the occupiers and the Mafia grew into a network that would hide food, wine, olive oil, gold and silver money, dried and salted meats in various hidden basements and cellars to protect the Sicilians from starvation. Loyalty membership in the Mafia would insure your family would not starve.

Mussolini was famous for nearly wiping out the Mafia and driving many members to exile in USA cities - then the US Army enlisted their help for the various invasions of Sicily and Italy to drive the facists and Nazis out of the country - the void in government was filled by the Mafia who then distributed the US Army food and medicines aid to the locals. Then was the resurgence of the post WWII mafia know as the LCN or this thing of ours La Cosa Nostra in the USA.

To this very day the Mafia in Italy has used the country's banking system as a massive laundry for their global network of rackets - the main reason why the Italian banks and Italy have not gone the way of Greece. The Mafia should not be romanticized and much of the street drugs sold around Europa supply lines are controlled by the Sicilian and Italian Mafia "families".

The Mob has been romanticized in the media and movies and the Russians adopted their methods when their economy collapsed in the 90's and spell themselves as the Mafiya yet ironically many of the Russian mob gangs are actually Jewish - by co-opting the name Mafiya it is psyops to divert attention from the immense wealth accumulated by many of the Jewish Russian Oligarchs many who got their starts in the Mafiya chaos of the Post Soviet Union breakup of the FSU.

The Vikings lead raiders would drink a hallucinogenic grog that would turn them into mindless killers when the they raided most European coastal and river villages - they wore bear skins or ber serks the origin of the word to go berserk.

History repeats and today the source of income of most gangs globally is now Guns and Drugs - drugs having a mind numbing effect the result being gangs leaders or "Warlords" are now more deadly and ruthless than ever - over 200,000 Mexican people have been murdered, many hung or beheaded and many thousands missing some in Mass Graves with many more people dead across Central and South American drugs growing, manufacturing and transshipment routes. Local law enforcement is often controlled by or controls the drugs as gangs themselves for survival.

With reported 50%+ minority unemployment in core urban cities - gangs guns and drugs (from Mexico) have emerged both to numb urban minds to the lack of prospects and to fund the power structure and rule of the rival gangs in the inner cities.

A number of countries have basically become narco terrorists controlled as a result of the huge drugs trafficking networks income in the USA - Mexico and El Salvador come to mind and in the Middle East ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and Boka Haram come to mind as well.

The irony is that when these "gangs" become too powerful major countries end up invading in an effort to re-establish the rule of law. And the wheel goes round... So what can be done about it - only thing that proves to work is to take the profit out of drugs that are the main source of most gangs income.

And create policies that actually bring back jobs to America and its once thriving inner city manufacturing industries with a return to the Patriarch lead nuclear family. Female centric welfare programs have contributed as much to the breakdown of nuclear families and lack of law and order in core urban areas are to blame as much as Drugs, Guns and Gangs have.

[Hannibal]

When civic duty isn't worth your time, clan duty becomes the norm.

That's the way of men is the way of the gang. When they get enough power they turn into a government.

[WildBoar]

Top comment by Deepdiver! Thanks, learned a lot.

[EL CHAPO]

(10-15-2015 08:25 AM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  

^ I have to ask the same question. In the subsequent post OP mentioned Asian and white gangs, but frankly, the first post is clearly just gunning for blacks and Hispanics. Plus, the portrait of Frederick Douglass just seems gratuitous.

Not true. The reason for Blacks and Hispanics in the first post was because I couldn't fit all the videos in one post. So I had to break it down to two posts.

Also, I'm a Black man, and Frederick Douglass would roll over in his grave if he ever saw what Black America has become. He would cry of sadness.

As a Black American, I want Black folks to wake up and stop this thuggish BS.