[Rocha]

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

Spain has beautiful woman, probably the best looking ones of western europe. Walking around in Seville for example, sometimes is like beeing in a catwalk. Tough some guys are good looking. At least superficially and in their land, for me as Portuguse they do not seem thirsty at all...in Poland is another story.

[Irish]

I tend to notice thirst is more specific to cities/specific places within the countries, rather than countries themselves.

Generally I find there's two types of thirst:

(1)The high volume low standards approach monkeys - Normally seen in party holiday resorts such as Kuta in Bali or San Antonio, Ibiza etc. This is when hordes of young often in-shape good looking guys go out and aggressively hit on everything that moves like their lives depend on it. Aussie bogans on tour I found tend to be the worst for this, as like the british chavs, they have zero approach anxiety and will cut your lunch all day long. However, unlike british chavs, they tend to be tall, ripped, good looking, have better chat and lower standards. I've lost count of how many times I have seen aussie guys fighting and cockblocking eachother over absolute hogs leagues below them in SMV. Once in Bali I even had an aussie dude trying to cut in on me WHILE I WAS MAKING OUT WITH A CHICK.

Worst places I have seen this: Kuta, Bali. San Antonio, Ibiza. Hvar, Croatia (tho I suspect this was a one off as I happened to be there when there was a huge infestation of aussie bogans). Generally anywhere where there'll be lots of tourist dudes as they tend to go much more all out hitting on chicks than when they're on home turf.

(2) Rich guy provider thirst - Common in major hub cities like London, Dubai, Hong Kong, Tokyo. Generally because so many people (mostly guys) will move there for work/career and there ends up being an oversupply of not just men but high value guys (ie rich/successful career types) while there are less hot women who tend to not be able to afford the high cost of living in these cities. Of the few hot chicks that are there they tend to be getting subsidised by guys anyway as they rarely will be earning enough money on their own and there will be plenty of rich dudes who will be falling over themselves to offer free dinners, drinks, iphones, holidays and even accommodation.

When I compare Singapore here to the likes of Manila, Bangkok and Jakarta for example, you really see a difference in the dating market. Chicks in Singapore really do know how to hustle rich dopey thirsty guys for all sorts of free shit and most will have numerous sponsors. A lot of the chicks have shown me the thirsty ass texts they get from dudes offering to fly them off to 5 star resorts etc, others live rent & expenses free in top end condos and still openly go out and fuck other dudes. And these chicks aren't necessarily all that hot. Most will have the latest iphone bought for them and some have even shown me screenshots of seriously large cash transfers these chumps make to their bank accounts. I know chicks in plenty other places running similar gigs, but it's almost always dudes from either HK or Singapore who they're playing.

Worst places I've seen for provider thirst: Dubai (by a mile), London, Singapore, Hong Kong

Generally the provider thirst #2 is a lot more bearable than #1. As you can easily differentiate yourself from those losers. In fact often the girls use the dudes money to get a bottle/table and pay for your drinks all evening. You can very much see the alpha fucks beta bucks in action. The downside is however that if you're looking for a girlfriend, you may struggle to find one who isn't used to living an expensive lifestyle beyond her means (and will hence expect you to finance her). #1 thirst is more of a pain however as it tends to kill the market stone dead for everyone. The top end chicks stop going out because they just get too much hassle, leaving you all to fight over the B-level girls who are getting so much attention and validation they think and act like they're 11s. Plus some of these guys actually can spit some fairly tight game to boot.

However, there are some places I have been which actually have a bad combination of the two (ie rich well dressed career dudes who aggressively spam approach and happy to go to war with you over mediocre women). The absolute worst has to be London. When I lived there, and although it was my pre-game days, I effectively gave up bothering trying to pick up chicks. Just wasn't worth the effort battling tooth and nail for a 6 only to have to deal with her shitty entitled attitude if you actually managed to bag her.

Other thirsty-ass places I have been, in no particular order:

Dubai - Middle Eastern dudes by far the worst for #2, ex pat guys pretty bad for #1
Tokyo - Roppongi area specifically. Full of very aggressive approaching bankers displaying both thirst types. However, the girls still seemed surprisingly receptive despite this. Particularly when you differentiate yourself with a more laid back approach. (I cannot comment for other areas however but I understand from other RVFers who have spent more time there it's nowhere near as bad outside Roppongi which itself has apparently only recently deteriorated fast)
Hong Kong - Again, wanker bankers with lots of cash and even more desperation.
Singapore - Again, pushy expat dudes with the wedge to try auction their way into chicks panties. Although, not as bad as HK and you're in SEA. So regardless you'll still be able to bang plenty of tidy chicks with not too much trouble
Kuta, Bali - Aussie bogan enclave, probably the worst place I have been for #1 thirst (tho pretty much zero #2).

Note: There's probably a third type of thirst I could mention. 'Dirty old pervert thirst'. Being low value guys who oogle and grope girls and generally creep them the fuck out. I suspect anywhere in India is bad for this, certainly the 'creepy Indian man stare' is well known to girls here in Singapore who take the MRT (tho really it's only the construction workers who are the main offenders)

[TigerTim]

Worst:

Middle-easterns/arabs
Turks
Aussie, Brits, Americans (and anything anglo)
Italians
Spanish

Basically all people with a lot of mediterranean ancestry.

Maybe there is common link between mediterranean ancestry and being flirty?

[Brick Top]

(09-27-2015 06:35 AM)Devil Hanzō Wrote:  

Generalizing much? What do you mean by destroying pussy paradises.

Of course I'm generalizing, every single person on this forum generalizes in one way or another, but does that mean that I'm wrong?

Anyway, what I mean is, for the last decade or so, former pussy paradises have been overrun by thousands of thirsty Italian men living up to their sleazy stereotype. Places like Prague, Bratislava, Krakow, Riga, Tallinn, etc used to be goldmines for top quality women and easy lays around 10 years ago, but now those places are harder then ever to game in because the local women have grown weary of foreign casanovas trying to get them into bed (with Italians being the main culprits!).

Don't believe me? Then go and visit some cities in Eastern Europe and count how many times you hear "Ciao bella" followed by wolf whistles from a groups of guys wearing sunglasses in winter with bright colored trainers. It's beyond ridiculous. Italians are nearly always very hostile towards other guys trying to game chicks too. I've seen guys get cigarettes flicked at them in disgust or get verbally abused for 'outgaming' an Italian guy before, with "Vaffanculo, pezzo di merda!" being the usual insult of choice.

(09-27-2015 07:46 AM)Akula Wrote:  

The Italians are bad but let's not let the incredibly thirsty whoring Turks or Arabs off the hook. They even cat call and whistle at women here and generally have horrible game. As in "hey girl you got a man" kinda game many times. The Arabs are also a real detriment given how they throw money around.

Let's not forget how the UK stag parties also helped ruin most of the EE capital and bigger cities as well.

True, Arabs and Turkeys are usually total horndogs but they usually aren't much competition to your average Western guy with decent game, unless they have lots of money, but that's another story entirely.

UK stag parties are definitely ruining Eastern Europe, and have been for years, but 9 times out of 10 the guys are far too drunk to approach local women with any kind of coherent game, so like the Turks & Arabs, they really aren't much competition. Plus alot of those guys on stag parts usually go to the most touristy bars which locals avoid or simply go the P4P/strip clubs route.

[TigerTim]

(09-27-2015 04:29 PM)Brick Top Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 06:35 AM)Devil Hanzō Wrote:  

Generalizing much? What do you mean by destroying pussy paradises.

Of course I'm generalizing, every single person on this forum generalizes in one way or another, but does that mean that I'm wrong?

Anyway, what I mean is, for the last decade or so, former pussy paradises have been overrun by thousands of thirsty Italian men living up to their sleazy stereotype. Places like Prague, Bratislava, Krakow, Riga, Tallinn, etc used to be goldmines for top quality women and easy lays around 10 years ago, but now those places are harder then ever to game in because the local women have grown weary of foreign casanovas trying to get them into bed (with Italians being the main culprits!).

Don't believe me? Then go and visit some cities in Eastern Europe and count how many times you hear "Ciao bella" followed by wolf whistles from a groups of guys wearing sunglasses in winter with bright colored trainers. It's beyond ridiculous. Italians are nearly always very hostile towards other guys trying to game chicks too. I've seen guys get cigarettes flicked at them in disgust or get verbally abused for 'outgaming' an Italian guy before, with "Vaffanculo, pezzo di merda!" being the usual insult of choice.

(09-27-2015 07:46 AM)Akula Wrote:  

The Italians are bad but let's not let the incredibly thirsty whoring Turks or Arabs off the hook. They even cat call and whistle at women here and generally have horrible game. As in "hey girl you got a man" kinda game many times. The Arabs are also a real detriment given how they throw money around.

Let's not forget how the UK stag parties also helped ruin most of the EE capital and bigger cities as well.

True, Arabs and Turkeys are usually total horndogs but they usually aren't much competition to your average Western guy with decent game, unless they have lots of money, but that's another story entirely.

UK stag parties are definitely ruining Eastern Europe, and have been for years, but 9 times out of 10 the guys are far too drunk to approach local women with any kind of coherent game, so like the Turks & Arabs, they really aren't much competition. Plus alot of those guys on stag parts usually go to the most touristy bars which locals avoid or simply go the P4P/strip clubs route.

I do agree here.. Italians are much more harmful because they have game and they go sober to clubs, which means they can fool girls , which arabs, turks and brits/Irish cant due to being highly drunk.

[Rang off the Pipe]

(09-27-2015 12:12 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  

France thirst of guys is pretty bad too, minorities are pretty aggressive and french guys are no slouch either.

After having met quite a number of French girls the last year so...they don't really strike me as being much more than mellower versions of American girls. I haven't been to France, though, and the corrupting influence of New York on both visitors and migrants probably has some influence on my observations.


Speaking of thirst, it's pretty significant among your typical guys within the city. Weekends at your average non-high-end bar is the worst when it comes to this.

[Rocha]

(09-27-2015 04:43 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:29 PM)Brick Top Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 06:35 AM)Devil Hanzō Wrote:  

Generalizing much? What do you mean by destroying pussy paradises.

Of course I'm generalizing, every single person on this forum generalizes in one way or another, but does that mean that I'm wrong?

Anyway, what I mean is, for the last decade or so, former pussy paradises have been overrun by thousands of thirsty Italian men living up to their sleazy stereotype. Places like Prague, Bratislava, Krakow, Riga, Tallinn, etc used to be goldmines for top quality women and easy lays around 10 years ago, but now those places are harder then ever to game in because the local women have grown weary of foreign casanovas trying to get them into bed (with Italians being the main culprits!).

Don't believe me? Then go and visit some cities in Eastern Europe and count how many times you hear "Ciao bella" followed by wolf whistles from a groups of guys wearing sunglasses in winter with bright colored trainers. It's beyond ridiculous. Italians are nearly always very hostile towards other guys trying to game chicks too. I've seen guys get cigarettes flicked at them in disgust or get verbally abused for 'outgaming' an Italian guy before, with "Vaffanculo, pezzo di merda!" being the usual insult of choice.

(09-27-2015 07:46 AM)Akula Wrote:  

The Italians are bad but let's not let the incredibly thirsty whoring Turks or Arabs off the hook. They even cat call and whistle at women here and generally have horrible game. As in "hey girl you got a man" kinda game many times. The Arabs are also a real detriment given how they throw money around.

Let's not forget how the UK stag parties also helped ruin most of the EE capital and bigger cities as well.

True, Arabs and Turkeys are usually total horndogs but they usually aren't much competition to your average Western guy with decent game, unless they have lots of money, but that's another story entirely.

UK stag parties are definitely ruining Eastern Europe, and have been for years, but 9 times out of 10 the guys are far too drunk to approach local women with any kind of coherent game, so like the Turks & Arabs, they really aren't much competition. Plus alot of those guys on stag parts usually go to the most touristy bars which locals avoid or simply go the P4P/strip clubs route.

I do agree here.. Italians are much more harmful because they have game and they go sober to clubs, which means they can fool girls , which arabs, turks and brits/Irish cant due to being highly drunk.

You can tell me that the top 3 guys with game in the world are Italians. I will believe.
You can tell me that the top 3 most beautiful girls in the world are Italian. I will believe.

You can not tell me generalizing that Italian guys have game, or that Italian woman in general are the best looking.

These guys run in flocks in former pussy paradises like Riga or Tallinn, creeping girls, they dress bad, they are loud, obnoxious...and worst of all they think they are the last coke in the desert. I also advise against believing what they say regarding their supposed conquests. For Italian people, image is everything...So a lot of fake Casanovas exist. Some good looking guys sure pull something, like of any other background.
In Ukraine I have yet to see a Italian pulling something, is he older or a younger guy.

I just wish all competition was Italian.

[elcidcampeador]

In the US the thirst doesn't make much of a difference. Guys in bars stand together in circles until they are drunk enough to grow a pair of balls and approach. The girls then reject them because they are sloppy. It's not like there are a bunch of good-looking guys running around approaching every girl in sight.

[TigerTim]

Aussies are dangerous if your main target is 5's and 6's... and you want to get into highnumbers... aussies must be some of the most desperate nationalities I've ever seen... they seem to hit on anything that moves... but Brazilians are worse.. I'm surprised nobody ever mentioned them...those guys are approaching machines..

[Rutting Elephant]

Thirsty Arab anecdote: in Indonesian newspapers reports recur about migrants (boat people) from Iraq etc. angering the local population by wandering around asking every woman in sight "How much?"

[Akula]

(09-27-2015 04:43 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:29 PM)Brick Top Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 06:35 AM)Devil Hanzō Wrote:  

Generalizing much? What do you mean by destroying pussy paradises.

Of course I'm generalizing, every single person on this forum generalizes in one way or another, but does that mean that I'm wrong?

Anyway, what I mean is, for the last decade or so, former pussy paradises have been overrun by thousands of thirsty Italian men living up to their sleazy stereotype. Places like Prague, Bratislava, Krakow, Riga, Tallinn, etc used to be goldmines for top quality women and easy lays around 10 years ago, but now those places are harder then ever to game in because the local women have grown weary of foreign casanovas trying to get them into bed (with Italians being the main culprits!).

Don't believe me? Then go and visit some cities in Eastern Europe and count how many times you hear "Ciao bella" followed by wolf whistles from a groups of guys wearing sunglasses in winter with bright colored trainers. It's beyond ridiculous. Italians are nearly always very hostile towards other guys trying to game chicks too. I've seen guys get cigarettes flicked at them in disgust or get verbally abused for 'outgaming' an Italian guy before, with "Vaffanculo, pezzo di merda!" being the usual insult of choice.

(09-27-2015 07:46 AM)Akula Wrote:  

The Italians are bad but let's not let the incredibly thirsty whoring Turks or Arabs off the hook. They even cat call and whistle at women here and generally have horrible game. As in "hey girl you got a man" kinda game many times. The Arabs are also a real detriment given how they throw money around.

Let's not forget how the UK stag parties also helped ruin most of the EE capital and bigger cities as well.

True, Arabs and Turkeys are usually total horndogs but they usually aren't much competition to your average Western guy with decent game, unless they have lots of money, but that's another story entirely.

UK stag parties are definitely ruining Eastern Europe, and have been for years, but 9 times out of 10 the guys are far too drunk to approach local women with any kind of coherent game, so like the Turks & Arabs, they really aren't much competition. Plus alot of those guys on stag parts usually go to the most touristy bars which locals avoid or simply go the P4P/strip clubs route.

I do agree here.. Italians are much more harmful because they have game and they go sober to clubs, which means they can fool girls , which arabs, turks and brits/Irish cant due to being highly drunk.

Good points all but still let's not give the Brit stag party dudes or thirsty Arab/Turks off the hook and single the Italians out exclusively. The Arab/Turkish guys have nothing to lose and all their aggressive or drunken catcalling & approaching everything either on the street or dance floor certainly doesn't make it any easier for anyone. Nor does some of their "let's treat women like shit bc they aren't Muslim" "or every girl has a price" attitudes help either.

If anything in Kiev at least I think the Turks and Arabs are much more present than the Italians for logisitical reasons as much as anything else, so you get more of Irish's #1 here.

Also, let's not forget that all the EE places you mention have been very Westernized and put under the Feminist spell for over a decade now. So it's the EU's bullshit Feminsm and anti-family teachings that change female behavior as much as it is the marauding wolf packs of horny foreigners. Plus the fact that lots of the women from those cities all moved to London, Paris, etc. to find work and bang foreign dudes leaves a smaller pool of ladies back home.

And, finally, on top of this heaping, steaming pile of shit we now have the invading hordes of "Migrants" entering Europe and that's 75% men aged 18-40 among their ranks. So it's only getting worse and it aint' the Italians or UK stag parties fucking it up for all of us going forward at least in Western and Central Europe. Just sayin'

(09-27-2015 10:42 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

In Ukraine I have yet to see a Italian pulling something, is he older or a younger guy.

Well I know of one but he's a forum member

[Saweeep]

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

This is so true.

However you forgot Dubai.

Never forget Dubai. Bitches are drawn to that place like flies to faeces.

[Akula]

(09-28-2015 07:06 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

This is so true.

However you forgot Dubai.

Never forget Dubai. Bitches are drawn to that place like flies to faeces.

No wonder they call it the "Dubai Deuce"!!

[El Chinito loco]

I'm not going to talk about other countries but here's how I know the thirst is real and pretty extreme in the U.S.

Every single asian girl I know (from several different countries) who have studied abroad or visited the U.S. in the past 5 years have all had similar stories when it comes to getting hit on hard in random places or other weird stories of thirst in the U.S.

These aren't party girls but a very broad range from nerdy relatives to fullbright scholars. They all say similar things. That's pretty fucked up and these girls would be nothing truly exceptional in their own countries..mostly 5-7 and one 8 in looks yet they all get model treatment in the U.S. A former gf of mine visited me in the U.S. about 10 years ago and got similar slobbering treatment and I saw it first hand then but didn't think much of it.

Now the social implications are much more significant.

.

[zatara]

(09-27-2015 03:15 PM)Irish Wrote:  

snip for brevity

This is a fantastic post. I agree completely on the two types of thirst, and on the geographical points. It sums up the types of thirst you'll see in most decent locations world wide.

I think the level of "desperation thirst" you can find in places like India or the Middle East is even worse for game than either #1 or #2 in your post, and is by far the worst in the world. But it is at least easier to avoid by simply not going to those countries to game. Everyone knows going to Cairo or Mumbai to game women is a silly idea.

[mntrsx]

SEA and Russia are the only places that haven't ruined by thirsty bastards. I can understand that they won't go to Russia because of the language barrier, but how come Philippines and Thailand are still ok?

[HOD]

(09-28-2015 04:22 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  

SEA and Russia are the only places that haven't ruined by thirsty bastards. I can understand that they won't go to Russia because of the language barrier, but how come Philippines and Thailand are still ok?

In general most Philippines and Thai girls are consider ugly. That's the truth, but I have seen some really pretty Thai girls, but in general you don't see guys like Brad Pitt heading that direction. I don't see Roosh writing Bang Thailand or Philly.

[TigerTim]

(09-27-2015 01:04 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

Spain has beautiful woman, probably the best looking ones of western europe. Walking around in Seville for example, sometimes is like beeing in a catwalk. Tough some guys are good looking. At least superficially and in their land, for me as Portuguse they do not seem thirsty at all...in Poland is another story.

Spain the best looking women in europe? lol

Better than the UK and Ireland for sure, but who else in europe isnt?

I think there are several european nations with more talent than spain, If anything I found many spanish women to look plain.

[godzilla]

Id put French girls over Spain in terms of the west.

[Rocha]

(09-28-2015 06:05 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 01:04 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

Spain has beautiful woman, probably the best looking ones of western europe. Walking around in Seville for example, sometimes is like beeing in a catwalk. Tough some guys are good looking. At least superficially and in their land, for me as Portuguse they do not seem thirsty at all...in Poland is another story.

Spain the best looking women in europe? lol

Better than the UK and Ireland for sure, but who else in europe isnt?

I think there are several european nations with more talent than spain, If anything I found many spanish women to look plain.

Where have you been in Spain?
Wich other nations you think have more talent than Spain?

I am 100% convinced that girls from the Spanish regions of Andalucia (Sevilla, Córdoba, Málaga...), Extremadura (Badajóz, Cáceres), Castilla la-Mancha (Toledo, Albacete), and also on the beaten track of Madrid, are easily the best looking in Western Europe.

If these woman who in general like to dress up, wear high heels, use mini-skirts, have perfect tans...look plain. Then tell me please where in WE can we found less plain woman. Belgium? Netherlands? France? Germany? Sweden? Denmark? Austria?...

I would go even far and say that lookwise they can beat some EEurope locations.

Still, this previous paragraphs derive a little from the discussion on this thread, resuming, I would say the Europeans more thirsty abroad are the Portuguese, there are not so many around, that is why this nationality has not been spoken about here. A friend of mine returned from Tallinn some days ago and says his wing, a regular Portuguese dude, banged a fat 3/10 local girl, and was actively pursuing these types of girls... And has I have seen with my own eyes, any fat 3 or 4 Polish or Lithuanian chick has the chance to bang an above average Portuguese guy.

[TripleG]

(09-27-2015 10:52 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  

In the US the thirst doesn't make much of a difference. Guys in bars stand together in circles until they are drunk enough to grow a pair of balls and approach. The girls then reject them because they are sloppy. It's not like there are a bunch of good-looking guys running around approaching every girl in sight.

You obviously haven't been to Washington, DC then. Almost every guy has to date down here and there are plenty of good-looking, successful guys getting little quality pussy. I have lawyer and IT friends here pulling high 6 figures and settling for 5's.

[chochemonger1]

(09-28-2015 07:13 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 06:05 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 01:04 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

Spain has beautiful woman, probably the best looking ones of western europe. Walking around in Seville for example, sometimes is like beeing in a catwalk. Tough some guys are good looking. At least superficially and in their land, for me as Portuguse they do not seem thirsty at all...in Poland is another story.

Spain the best looking women in europe? lol

Better than the UK and Ireland for sure, but who else in europe isnt?

I think there are several european nations with more talent than spain, If anything I found many spanish women to look plain.

Where have you been in Spain?
Wich other nations you think have more talent than Spain?

I am 100% convinced that girls from the Spanish regions of Andalucia (Sevilla, Córdoba, Málaga...), Extremadura (Badajóz, Cáceres), Castilla la-Mancha (Toledo, Albacete), and also on the beaten track of Madrid, are easily the best looking in Western Europe.

If these woman who in general like to dress up, wear high heels, use mini-skirts, have perfect tans...look plain. Then tell me please where in WE can we found less plain woman. Belgium? Netherlands? France? Germany? Sweden? Denmark? Austria?...

I would go even far and say that lookwise they can beat some EEurope locations.

Still, this previous paragraphs derive a little from the discussion on this thread, resuming, I would say the Europeans more thirsty abroad are the Portuguese, there are not so many around, that is why this nationality has not been spoken about here. A friend of mine returned from Tallinn some days ago and says his wing, a regular Portuguese dude, banged a fat 3/10 local girl, and was actively pursuing these types of girls... And has I have seen with my own eyes, any fat 3 or 4 Polish or Lithuanian chick has the chance to bang an above average Portuguese guy.

It has been awhile since I went traveling around Spain, but when I was in the suburbs of Madrid, this past year, I was very impressed by the girls' looks, long hair, air of feminitity (this is also after having been in Ukraine 2 months).
But that is just the surface. It is their girls' attitude and personality that make Spanish men some of the thirstiest on earth. Though, I would agree that Portuguese men might be even thirstier, since they also have to deal with lesser quality combined with similar attitudes.

[blacknwhitespade]

(09-28-2015 12:48 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

I'm not going to talk about other countries but here's how I know the thirst is real and pretty extreme in the U.S.

Every single asian girl I know (from several different countries) who have studied abroad or visited the U.S. in the past 5 years have all had similar stories when it comes to getting hit on hard in random places or other weird stories of thirst in the U.S.

These aren't party girls but a very broad range from nerdy relatives to fullbright scholars. They all say similar things. That's pretty fucked up and these girls would be nothing truly exceptional in their own countries..mostly 5-7 and one 8 in looks yet they all get model treatment in the U.S. A former gf of mine visited me in the U.S. about 10 years ago and got similar slobbering treatment and I saw it first hand then but didn't think much of it.

Now the social implications are much more significant.

.

A calculable minority of White men thirst for Asian women like you would not believe. It's sparked by the sluggish, pc/white-guilt induced social dynamics between young white males and white females in America, particularly in very liberal areas where you have a high percentage of frumpy, leftist white women. Hence, geeky, mildly attractive Asian women are thirsted after. Think Seattle, San Francisco, various college campuses... they are big fish in small ponds. If I had money to throw away, I'd visit these areas where these yellow fever starved men hang out and start handing out free air fares to Colombia, Mexico, etc, enlighten them, maybe just a little.

[Akula]

(09-28-2015 10:47 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 10:52 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  

In the US the thirst doesn't make much of a difference. Guys in bars stand together in circles until they are drunk enough to grow a pair of balls and approach. The girls then reject them because they are sloppy. It's not like there are a bunch of good-looking guys running around approaching every girl in sight.

You obviously haven't been to Washington, DC then. Almost every guy has to date down here and there are plenty of good-looking, successful guys getting little quality pussy. I have lawyer and IT friends here pulling high 6 figures and settling for 5's.

So true and that also sounds like it could be pretty much any city in the US (outside NYC and maybe Miami and LA, each which have their own quirks which are well documented in this forum) and in particular the UK. Guys just are generally forced to date down these days and there are so few 7+s that no wonder they get overwhelmed with attention.

Big disconnect from what men are told they can get versus what is actually out there too (which only adds to the thirst).

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(09-29-2015 12:24 AM)Akula Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 10:52 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  

In the US the thirst doesn't make much of a difference. Guys in bars stand together in circles until they are drunk enough to grow a pair of balls and approach. The girls then reject them because they are sloppy. It's not like there are a bunch of good-looking guys running around approaching every girl in sight.

You obviously haven't been to Washington, DC then. Almost every guy has to date down here and there are plenty of good-looking, successful guys getting little quality pussy. I have lawyer and IT friends here pulling high 6 figures and settling for 5's.

So true and that also sounds like it could be pretty much any city in the US (outside NYC and maybe Miami and LA, each which have their own quirks which are well documented in this forum) and in particular the UK. Guys just are generally forced to date down these days and there are so few 7+s that no wonder they get overwhelmed with attention.

Big disconnect from what men are told they can get versus what is actually out there too (which only adds to the thirst).

Interesting you mentioned the UK. How would you compare the UK and US in terms of thirst, then?