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[trip report] Rome
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[trip report] Rome

I spent three days in Rome, and while I did not f-close a single person, I saw the potential and would like to share my thoughts here.

General
1. If you go to Rome for sightseeing as a primary purpose - something everyone must do once - you will NOT f-close anyone unless you stay a week or longer. The reason is that there are so many things to see and enjoy that at the end of day you'll be very tired. Both physically from walking (and hot weather doesn't help) and mentally, from seeing so many things, and staying in so many lines. I didn't even approach anyone the first two days because my brain was too busy with "what else I forgot to see?". So plan accordingly; I'd suggest staying a week, and spending the first three days sightseeing, and the last four in pickups.

2. Do NOT stay in Central Rome (between Pantheon and Vatican) if your goal is not sightseeing. The hotels are expensive (starting from 100EUR a night for a crappy room), so the main population there is mostly older couples. People I talked to suggested the Traveste area which is where upper class locals live and all the clubs are, or Termini (train station) area which is where cheap hotels and hostels are (note that "cheap" here means something like $60 a night or so). Keep in mind the subway is only open till 9pm except Sat (till 1:30 on Sat), and taxis are expensive as is everything else (how you like a 3EUR Coke/water?), so if you're in the club in Traveste and want to go back to Termini, it may cost you more than the hotel room alone.

3. Know where the subway stations and major tourist attractions are - do map-memorizing before your trip. People been asking me directions all the time - just walk around confidently without a map in your hand and they'll assume you know the whole city.

4. Read some information about Rome. Surprisingly a lot of tourists do not know that Vatican museum is closed on most Sundays, and that tickets may be bought online (saving of 3-hour line). You will DHV a lot as a well-traveled confident person if you casually mention those things, even if you just read them online two days ago.

5. Forget about shopping there unless you're G [Image: smile.gif] your main problem would be to keep your money pile from melting off. To give you an idea, I spent 400EUR in three days (half of it on accommodation) and I didn't really buy anything but transport, food, drinks and entertainment. Museums alone are 5-20EUR each. Budget for water, you will NOT be able to refill your bottle as there are no drinking fountains. Well, unless you can drink from a regular fountain where the people routinely wash their feet in. Exception: Vatican has plenty of drinking fountains.

6. If you plan to go out into the clubs, pack the good clothes. Never been there, but talked to locals and they said the dress code is strictly enforced. So if you're walking around in a t-shirt, shorts and hiking boots - like every other tourist - you won't get into the most clubs. Bars/restaurants are ok. Note that if you wearing a sleeveless t-shirt or your shorts are well above knee, you won't be allowed into a lot of religious museums and pretty much all churches, including all Vatican museums.

Approaching

I only run a little of day game there, and your target would be tourists. There is A LOT of them from different countries, and you'll have a good selection. I'd say you have a chance to get any flag possible, from Ethiopia to Hong Kong. Focus on major attractions - Colosseum, Roman Forum, Piazza Navona, St. Peter square (I had most success there).

As typical with day game, focus on single girls or small groups of girls to make your life easier. For me the standard "could you take a picture" approach worked really well. Usually once the picture is taken I ask her to take one more, and watch her body expression. If she seems annoyed or in hurry, I let her go - maybe she's here only for a day and wants to see everything, very typical for Russians. If she takes another picture and doesn't hurry, I offer to take a picture of her with her camera (unless she is with the group and has it taken already in front of me). Then I ask where she is from. You may think it is not relevant (and it would not be in San Jose), but in Rome, which is full of tourists, this is a very natural and perfect transition. Once she replied, you're on your way to the normal conversation.

Now ask her if this is her first visit (100% in my case) and how long she's been staying, then ask her for her plans. Most likely they would involve seeing something you know about, so you can share some information you learned before, but not all of it. For example, you may say "Vatican museum is nice, but today is not the best day". Let her ask you what is the best day, and why. This naturally leads to your travel experience, her travel experience and so on.

At this moment you may be tempted - and she may suggest to - join her or her group. Do not. It is easy to stick with one person for the day in Rome, and at the evening she's so tired that nothing ever could happen. Ask her if she knows any good nightlife spots (she wont) and tell her it is tough because most restaurants close around 10pm or so, but you KNOW some good places (again check Google). Since you've established your knowledge before, she'll take it. Close by getting her number, tell her you'll call her later. You may arrange some plans right on spot, but it makes little sense. Say goodbye, and repeat.

If you still want to spend a little time with her - to build comfort - get in line into St. Peter Cathedral. The line looks huge and long, but it moves fast. If she is wearing a tank top and you have an extra t-shirt with you, you may get extra points when you go through all the security and she's turned away at the entrance to St. Peter. Then if you want to spend more time with her, get into the line to the basilica dome. This is a LONG line - 2-3 hours - and it is a good climb afterward (520 steps if I remember) - so you'll have a lot of opportunities to build comfort without distractions, cockblocking or anything else. Maybe even some makeout in Vatican [Image: smile.gif] Just don't get caught.
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[trip report] Rome

Great report! I'll be there this summer and this will be useful. I'll write up my own sheet when done.

I also wrote up a sheet from memory when I was there a few years ago. Was less experienced in the game then so I'm sure many things passed me by:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4953-p...l#pid64175

By the way, do you mean Trastevere rather than Traveste? I think the latter means transvestite; you might not want to ask a cab driver about that!

"A flower can not remain in bloom for years, but a garden can be cultivated to bloom throughout seasons and years." - xsplat
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[trip report] Rome

Quote: (06-14-2011 10:35 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

Great report! I'll be there this summer and this will be useful. I'll write up my own sheet when done.

Caligula

Do you have a place to stay? I was there in March and stayed at an apartment on Banchi Vecchi (very central location - close to patheon, trevi fountain and campo d'fiori) I paid 685 euro for 8 days. I would've extended my stay but the apartment was booked, I ended up moving to a hostel but i had a private room check out http://www.yellowhostel.com (near termini) i had fun at the apartment but had I known the fun i would have at the hostel i would have booked my entire stay there.


I went to a couple pubs and to the disco area (there are about 6 discos on that street) i forgot the name of the area but they do have the map posted in the yellow. I don't think you will have to leave the yellow as it has a popular bar and its filled with tourist, i hooked up with a couple American foreign exchange students and a chick from Aussie. Trust me the yellow is the way to go. If they are packed they have a sister hostel directly across the street, make sure you pay the extra money and get the private room.
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[trip report] Rome

I will NEVER go to Rome. Not after what those imperialistic war pigs did to my people. [Image: angry.gif]
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[trip report] Rome

Quote: (06-14-2011 10:59 AM)Imthattypeofguy Wrote:  

Quote: (06-14-2011 10:35 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

Great report! I'll be there this summer and this will be useful. I'll write up my own sheet when done.

Caligula

Do you have a place to stay? I was there in March and stayed at an apartment on Banchi Vecchi (very central location - close to patheon, trevi fountain and campo d'fiori) I paid 685 euro for 8 days. I would've extended my stay but the apartment was booked, I ended up moving to a hostel but i had a private room check out http://www.yellowhostel.com (near termini) i had fun at the apartment but had I known the fun i would have at the hostel i would have booked my entire stay there.


I went to a couple pubs and to the disco area (there are about 6 discos on that street) i forgot the name of the area but they do have the map posted in the yellow. I don't think you will have to leave the yellow as it has a popular bar and its filled with tourist, i hooked up with a couple American foreign exchange students and a chick from Aussie. Trust me the yellow is the way to go. If they are packed they have a sister hostel directly across the street, make sure you pay the extra money and get the private room.

Thanks for the pointer! I have some people there who usually hook me up - but I might hit up the hostel for a night or two just for fun!

"A flower can not remain in bloom for years, but a garden can be cultivated to bloom throughout seasons and years." - xsplat
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[trip report] Rome

I'm glad I went in September. I don't recall having to stand in any lines to see things. Except for the Academia in Firenze. I think I stood in line about 2 hours.
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[trip report] Rome

Quote: (06-14-2011 10:35 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

By the way, do you mean Trastevere rather than Traveste? I think the latter means transvestite; you might not want to ask a cab driver about that!

You're likely right. I've got it from several locals I talked to and didn't bother to write it down. Roosh, could you correct please?
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Quote: (06-14-2011 10:27 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Focus on major attractions - Colosseum, Roman Forum, Piazza Navona, St. Peter square (I had most success there).

Don't forget the Spanish Steps. Been helping horny travellers get laid since, well, forever. And lots of churches around for confession if any chicks feel post fuck guilt.

What would you say about hiring a scooter to get around during your stay? Would you have to be certifiably insane? I love the way the Italians park them pretty much anywhere they want.
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[trip report] Rome

Quote: (06-15-2011 07:19 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Quote: (06-14-2011 10:35 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

By the way, do you mean Trastevere rather than Traveste? I think the latter means transvestite; you might not want to ask a cab driver about that!

You're likely right. I've got it from several locals I talked to and didn't bother to write it down. Roosh, could you correct please?

I'm from Rome, born and raised right in the centro storico. My tips.

Definitely bring your target to Trastevere, plenty of bars, pubs and nice osterie in the alleys between Piazza Santa Maria in Trastevere and Piazza Trilussa. I recommend Osteria Trilussa right behind Piazza Trilussa, if you want to eat something good or pizzeria Dar Poeta. Grab a gelato or a crepe in Vicolo del Cinque and then suggest to your date to walk up the Gianicolo Hill, at night, to see the panorama from the top of the hill (10 min walk from Trastevere). You cant go wrong, sooo romantic [Image: banana.gif]
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Quote: (06-15-2011 09:09 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

Quote: (06-14-2011 10:27 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Focus on major attractions - Colosseum, Roman Forum, Piazza Navona, St. Peter square (I had most success there).

Don't forget the Spanish Steps. Been helping horny travellers get laid since, well, forever. And lots of churches around for confession if any chicks feel post fuck guilt.

What would you say about hiring a scooter to get around during your stay? Would you have to be certifiably insane? I love the way the Italians park them pretty much anywhere they want.

Yes. The meat-market pick up areas (where I would never ever go but I admit are target rich) are:

- Campo De' Fiori (evening)- Americans galore. All the Americans that go to the John Cabot University go to an infamous dive bar called THE DRUNKEN SHIP (Jeez, the only time I went there 7-8 years ago I had to order in english as the American bartender didnt understand a word of Italian).
It can be fun, just be aware of what you will encounter.

- Spanish Steps (daygame): Tourists chilling on the steps are ready to be attacked.

- Via Del Corso - close to The Spanish Steps- (daygame): major commercial boulevard where all the girls go shopping.
Imagine hot chick in miniskirt walking her chihuaua and looking at shoes boutiques while two Italian douchebags approach her from their moped.
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Quote: (06-15-2011 09:09 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

Don't forget the Spanish Steps. Been helping horny travellers get laid since, well, forever. And lots of churches around for confession if any chicks feel post fuck guilt.

Funny that I stayed in a hotel like 50 meters from Spanish Steps, and avoided the area like plague as it was too crowded for my tastes.

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What would you say about hiring a scooter to get around during your stay?

It depends where you stay. To me Central Roma is too crowded and streets are too narrow to drive anything, even a scooter - and if you stick to tourist attractions, you don't have to, everything is very close. Took me 45 minutes to walk from Vatican to Colosseum, and I wasn't in hurry (and didn't know the way).
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If you want to see Pompeii, stay in Sorrento, not Naples. Sorrento is clean, safe, but can be overrun with cruise line tourists at times. These are led around in packs by tour guides carrying an umbrella or a flag, so they pass like a tide. They're mostly out 11-5. Most cruise lines are seniors and married couples on anniversary looking for limoncello. Also a lot of student groups staying somewhere cheaper are in town. The alleyways full of shops west of Piazza Tasso are like crack for women. They love wandering there, but tend to be 30+. For younger, try walking Corso Italia. There really isn't much to do here else.

Sorrento is also a launching point for Isle of Capri. It was all couples and packs of women shopping.

"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly color. I'm so glad I'm a Beta."
--Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
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Are you on a cruise Blackhawk? How long are you staying in Italy?

Here's some Rome data if you go there - http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-5657.html

"A flower can not remain in bloom for years, but a garden can be cultivated to bloom throughout seasons and years." - xsplat
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