[darwin]

About me:
23 year olds, independent/pretty wealthy, 6 foot, middle eastern, notch count 40 (all in toronto, however a lot of them were foreign exchange students), had 2 long term relationships both I ended, and half those lays were through tinder/pof/okcupid (tinder and pof being the top hit, okcupid pretty much useless).

What is toronto good for?
Easy to get credit loans/bank accounts (i got my first credit card when I was 12)
Diversity (You will pretty much encounter everything ethnicity at least once)
Great education
Economy pretty stable, though I am pretty sure a recession is going to happen within 3 years.
Being lazy - we have a lot of homeless people, because of government hand outs.
And you will be surprised by the amount of 25-40 year old people that still live with their parents.
Also the opposite of being lazy - being active; self improvement.
Access to the latest technologies.
Not too far from the United States (like 1.5 hour drive to buffalo)

Where to meet women:
University and college campuses.
Bars, Pubs, Clubs near university and college campuses.
Malls
Entertainment District; though a lot of clubs are shut down and honestly it seems to be infested with old and fat women.
King Street West - I recommend for the mature crowd (25+)
Online - Tinder, Pof, OKCupid (OKCupid is mainly fat, bisexual and feminist women),
Facebook is great too if you there is a facebook group for your college and university.

Random Venues

Oasis Aqua Lounge - This is for people who have creepy sexual fetishes. The whole place is nasty, the people banging are like 2/10, I witness a 3some for 10 seconds and called it a day. The hot tub pool outside is pretty sweet other than that, do not go here unless you really love sexual fetishes and could careless about the quality of good looking people.

Union/Muzik/Cube - More high end clubs, drinks are expensive, women are utterly boring, but there are a lot attractive women here, however they got ADD.

So if you cannot keep up with their tiny brains, these places are not for you.

Madison - This place is saturated of guys approaching. Every single guy is approaching. It sucks.

Tryst/Gravity/Tequila Jacks/Gracies/Brunswick House/Dance Cave/Sneeky Dees - Lots of college/young girls, I liked it when I was 20, but now I am over it. The later you go the harder it will be, they get very packed.

Cabana - Haven't gone yet, may go today actually lol.

Day Game Area

Spadina & College
Harbourfront
Center Island
The Beaches (go on the weekday, weekends too many people)
Bathurst and College
Queen Street (Both downtown, and east york)
Yonge & Dundas (Too many distractions, I think)
Malls

Most receptive women:
The younger the girl the more receptive, I pretty much dated exclusively 18-20 year old girls only because...

The moment girls hit 21 things start to get really bad
-constant frowning makes them look 40 years old
-they brag about their useless titles (master degrees, data collector specialist, I traveled the whole world within 2 weeks etc)
-They start to doubt their decisions in life (enrolling in school, being an independent women, trying to become a doctor), therefore they need to travel more to learn about the world...
-Poor (1200 a month), I dont think I ever dated a girl that made more money than me despite all her greatest achievements.
-Women in general here do not know how to cook, clean, dance, or much talent at all.
-You will meet a lot of women claiming they can "dance", "model", "photographer"... hahaha, I assure you nope. I dated a lot of these girls other than being pretty they were just all talk.
-Their favourite "hobby" is shopping, fashion and cosmetics (aka consumerism)... or to save the world from world hunger, or too give a dead raccoon its proper funeral.

How to be successful?
Numbers game, big time.
Just keep approaching.

Approach girls that are standing around, not frowning and if they give eye contact + smile then you are definitely going somehwere.

Also

Day Game is Key,
Online game especially if you're young
Being enrolled into a university/college and being social
Joining a social/meet up
Having a car and/or your own place is definitely beneficial too.

How to be even more successful and not get fed up?
Do not get angry, walk away, and next.

Best way to get laid
Be part of a social circle, as long as they "know of you", you do not need to be "bros" or "family" with these people as long as they know you exist and you say hi/are nice when you are there that is good enough.

However a lot of "meetsup", "dance lessons" (salsa for example) are filled with honestly the ugliest girls and guys I have ever seen, however there is always at least one girl that is bangable (I did not saw hot lol).

You join one of these meets ups to learn something not for the women, because if you go for the sake of women you will be hugely disappointed, like I said you will meet some of the ugliest guys and girls at these socials. The attractive women are like cherry on a cake.

Also enroll in a part time college program at like seneca or george brown (its like 300 bucks), and you have access too poon from all ages. Basically back into college and you could careless about the marks, though I recommend you do a language course or something, at least learn something lol.

Conclusion

Women here are cold, socially awkward (simple conversation rarely exists), and not wife material.

I am pretty much done with this city and look forward into moving either to europe or latina america for a couple years when I am 25 (if not sooner).

[rudebwoy]

(08-21-2015 07:29 PM)darwin Wrote:  

About me:
23 year olds, independent/pretty wealthy, 6 foot, middle eastern, notch count 40 (all in toronto, however a lot of them were foreign exchange students), had 2 long term relationships both I ended, and half those lays were through tinder/pof/okcupid (tinder and pof being the top hit, okcupid pretty much useless).

What is toronto good for?
Easy to get credit loans/bank accounts (i got my first credit card when I was 12)
Diversity (You will pretty much encounter everything ethnicity at least once)
Great education
Economy pretty stable, though I am pretty sure a recession is going to happen within 3 years.
Being lazy - we have a lot of homeless people, because of government hand outs.
And you will be surprised by the amount of 25-40 year old people that still live with their parents.
Also the opposite of being lazy - being active; self improvement.
Access to the latest technologies.
Not too far from the United States (like 1.5 hour drive to buffalo)

Where to meet women:
University and college campuses.
Bars, Pubs, Clubs near university and college campuses.
Malls
Entertainment District; though a lot of clubs are shut down and honestly it seems to be infested with old and fat women.
King Street West - I recommend for the mature crowd (25+)
Online - Tinder, Pof, OKCupid (OKCupid is mainly fat, bisexual and feminist women),
Facebook is great too if you there is a facebook group for your college and university.

Random Venues

Oasis Aqua Lounge - This is for people who have creepy sexual fetishes. The whole place is nasty, the people banging are like 2/10, I witness a 3some for 10 seconds and called it a day. The hot tub pool outside is pretty sweet other than that, do not go here unless you really love sexual fetishes and could careless about the quality of good looking people.

Union/Muzik/Cube - More high end clubs, drinks are expensive, women are utterly boring, but there are a lot attractive women here, however they got ADD.

So if you cannot keep up with their tiny brains, these places are not for you.

Madison - This place is saturated of guys approaching. Every single guy is approaching. It sucks.

Tryst/Gravity/Tequila Jacks/Gracies/Brunswick House/Dance Cave/Sneeky Dees - Lots of college/young girls, I liked it when I was 20, but now I am over it. The later you go the harder it will be, they get very packed.

Cabana - Haven't gone yet, may go today actually lol.

Day Game Area

Spadina & College
Harbourfront
Center Island
The Beaches (go on the weekday, weekends too many people)
Bathurst and College
Queen Street (Both downtown, and east york)
Yonge & Dundas (Too many distractions, I think)
Malls

Most receptive women:
The younger the girl the more receptive, I pretty much dated exclusively 18-20 year old girls only because...

The moment girls hit 21 things start to get really bad
-constant frowning makes them look 40 years old
-they brag about their useless titles (master degrees, data collector specialist, I traveled the whole world within 2 weeks etc)
-They start to doubt their decisions in life (enrolling in school, being an independent women, trying to become a doctor), therefore they need to travel more to learn about the world...
-Poor (1200 a month), I dont think I ever dated a girl that made more money than me despite all her greatest achievements.
-Women in general here do not know how to cook, clean, dance, or much talent at all.
-You will meet a lot of women claiming they can "dance", "model", "photographer"... hahaha, I assure you nope. I dated a lot of these girls other than being pretty they were just all talk.
-Their favourite "hobby" is shopping, fashion and cosmetics (aka consumerism)... or to save the world from world hunger, or too give a dead raccoon its proper funeral.

How to be successful?
Numbers game, big time.
Just keep approaching.

Approach girls that are standing around, not frowning and if they give eye contact + smile then you are definitely going somehwere.

Also

Day Game is Key,
Online game especially if you're young
Being enrolled into a university/college and being social
Joining a social/meet up
Having a car and/or your own place is definitely beneficial too.

How to be even more successful and not get fed up?
Do not get angry, walk away, and next.

Best way to get laid
Be part of a social circle, as long as they "know of you", you do not need to be "bros" or "family" with these people as long as they know you exist and you say hi/are nice when you are there that is good enough.

However a lot of "meetsup", "dance lessons" (salsa for example) are filled with honestly the ugliest girls and guys I have ever seen, however there is always at least one girl that is bangable (I did not saw hot lol).

You join one of these meets ups to learn something not for the women, because if you go for the sake of women you will be hugely disappointed, like I said you will meet some of the ugliest guys and girls at these socials. The attractive women are like cherry on a cake.

Also enroll in a part time college program at like seneca or george brown (its like 300 bucks), and you have access too poon from all ages. Basically back into college and you could careless about the marks, though I recommend you do a language course or something, at least learn something lol.

Conclusion

Women here are cold, socially awkward (simple conversation rarely exists), and not wife material.

I am pretty much done with this city and look forward into moving either to europe or latina america for a couple years when I am 25 (if not sooner).

[Vice]

(08-21-2015 08:09 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

What's trollish about his post? I don't get it.

[Suits]

I wish OP's datasheet had been more detailed, as it is more of an outline of a datasheet than the sort of juicy details that I'd normally want to know about before visiting a city, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he's a troll.

Looks like he's a new member who is try to contribute positively.

Darwin, it would be great if you would go into some detail about your success ratios in each of the venues listed and if you're able, some points regarding effective openers and the typical opener to sex sequence.

Also, since you've been successful mainly with foreign exchange students, it would hurt to fill us in on your experiences regarding with nationalities seemed the most DTF and how you were able to meet them.

[rudebwoy]

I was somewhat joking about the Troll.

We have more than enough info on here about Toronto, did this warrant a new data sheet.

I know the OP is young, but he listed places to meet women. Number one being the University, well I can tell you the university of Toronto sucks for meeting decent women. When I say suck, I mean the quality of women is very low.

He listed malls, what malls? Some are good, most are not.

I don't mean to be an ass, but most of the info is very generic.

I could have written that about a city I have never been too.

[darwin]

(08-22-2015 10:37 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I was somewhat joking about the Troll.

We have more than enough info on here about Toronto, did this warrant a new data sheet.

I know the OP is young, but he listed places to meet women. Number one being the University, well I can tell you the university of Toronto sucks for meeting decent women. When I say suck, I mean the quality of women is very low.

He listed malls, what malls? Some are good, most are not.

I don't mean to be an ass, but most of the info is very generic.

I could have written that about a city I have never been too.

UofT - Victoria College - First Year and Second Year students it is a gold mine. The rest of the campus not so good, you just kind of walk around.

Also The beginning of school - Frosh Week - Is great, pretend to be a first year student (you re-enrolled in school again that is why you're 29 years old lol), get all their numbers and you are kind of set for 6 months.

Also go inside the cafes/lounges on campus, every college at UofT has their own cafe/lounge
Skule, Rotman, New College, Victoria College, University College, also go inside Hart House and/or the Athletic centre.

They usually also have billboards posted for social events - these are actually pretty good, they also got speed dating events during valentines day - and these are pretty good too as there are usually around 3 chicks that are pretty nice.

Do NOT be afraid to go inside these buildings/cafes it is open to the public and nobody ever asks questions (applies to all universities/colleges)

Ryerson campus just walk around, it is so small, I always just sit around the little tables beside the pond (or stay inside balzac cafe) and approach an attractive girl when she walks by.

They also have their own cafe, though traffic is very low.

Also Ryerson library, I think the 3rd floor is the "talking" floor, again just sit around and wait till prey arrives.

York University - Go to the seneca college campus, really good, lots of girls, variety of ages, more open, lots of foreigners. They have an "outside" within the college, you can chill there and talk to girls out there.

Also at york university campus ( i am not sure, because they had construction at the time) in the center they have a grass field and again I just sit around and wait till some cute girl walks by.

Malls - Eaton Centre is your best bet, going on a sunday is awesome, because it is dead (not in a bad way), quiet and lots of girls by themselves.

And honestly all college (community college) campuses are gold mine - lots of foreigners (also more mature) - they are really down to meet people, because the first thing they say about toronto is how cold people are here and surprised when you talk to them; Seneca, George Brown, Centennial, also Humber (their main campuses are best to go to).

[darwin]

(08-22-2015 09:50 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I wish OP's datasheet had been more detailed, as it is more of an outline of a datasheet than the sort of juicy details that I'd normally want to know about before visiting a city, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he's a troll.

Looks like he's a new member who is try to contribute positively.

Darwin, it would be great if you would go into some detail about your success ratios in each of the venues listed and if you're able, some points regarding effective openers and the typical opener to sex sequence.

Also, since you've been successful mainly with foreign exchange students, it would hurt to fill us in on your experiences regarding with nationalities seemed the most DTF and how you were able to meet them.

Lets just say the success rate is really not that high in general. Women here have very high expectations, and sex is seemed very taboo, yet it isnt... lol.

And I have been actively (the first 3 years, approached like a mad man) approaching since I was 19, and its been 5 years, and only 40 lays, I think that is poor (I do not have much reference experiences, but I visited portugal (lisboa) a couple months ago and I posted one facebook post on their international university group and I got 30 girls to message me to go out with them, and managed to date 3 girls within 1 week, so I definitely think toronto is very difficult based on this one comparison), it would been higher if I lived Downtown, but the actual cost of living downtown is not worth it.

I met all foreign girls at the Entertainment District, bloor street (brunswick house, dance cave, madison pub, and all the random pubs on the street), UofT social events (dance classes and hiking trips), and just being enrolled into University. I always sat beside a new girl and got her number, I really took advantage when I was at UofT for the 1 year. - With that being said you can pretend to be part of a class, just walk in and sit down lol, and again no one will ask questions. A lot of classes are very big.

And I forget Tinder (more foreigners on tinder than on pof)/Pof too

Im going to be honest my openers are just "Hi, I saw you, you are cute/interesting/I like your hair and I wanted to meet you" and if things go well then I just talk about the things that interest me. Im a simple guy, and I like simple conversation.

How I made things go sexual? I always love to dance, even though I am not that good, so I just faked it; I would grab their hand and pretend to show them how to dance (salsa, bachata or whatever), that always lead to sexual tension. My dancing is a lot better now though.

Also jewelry, and hair were always used as an excuse to touch their hands, shoulders, breasts (necklaces, subtle touching), wrists etc, which would lead to sexual tension. And if conversations got very intimate I would brush my leg against heres (if we are sitting), if things get more intimate I start to rub her leg with my hands, and if things get even more intimate then I sit beside her get very close and then I sometimes kiss or sometimes I am about to kiss her, but I say lets get out of here, and walk are towards her place.

Foreign girls I really did well with are German, Dutch, Swiss (French), French (From Lyon), Americans (They were on the wealthy side of things), Russians, Ukrainians, Italians (from italy) - I always did well with Blonde foreign girls (they were also very young 18-20)

Foreign girls I did poorly with Brazilians and Japanese, why? Their english sucks, and they tend to only hang out with more Brazilians and Japanese. And I dont think they find me attractive lol.

Also did poorly with turkish and persian girls. I should try again though, its been awhile. They seemed very bimbo-y

As for local girls, girls that moved from out of town into toronto were the best.

Girls I dated were usually from sudbury, thunderbay, wawa, orangeville, aurora, scarborough, pickering, ajax, montreal, various cities from British Columbia, and the east coast (I think I should book at trip to Newfoundland or New Brunswick).

Girls that gave me a lot of looks (eye contact/smiles); blond girls from europe, out of town Canadian girls, indian girls (but the attractive ones are always in Brampton and at the time I didnt have a car), Middle Eastern Girls - Arabs - (but majority of them are hijab wearing Mohammedans so I do not date), and Black Girls.

I think by looking back I only dated 1 girl (hispanic background) that was born and raised in toronto. I cannot really recall anyone else.

[civpro]

UofT is mad Asian girls, I'd stay away if you're not into that.

[CH-Toronto]

For the record in terms of quality - Cabana is ridiculous. It's like King St, except all the girls are in bikinis.

Note: $20.00 Cover

[RBerkley]

Ryerson University? Honestly, that university felt like DEFCOCK 1 and that was one of the reasons why I withdrew from that feminist institution. It's way too paranoid and feminist.

The only good thing about Toronto is that there is a variety of foreigner chicks, but by time within 6 months to 1 year of Canadian feminist education, these chicks automatically transform into feminist zombies.

[kosko]

Cabana looks great but I wonder how easy it is to swoop from there as everybody is from some random part of the city and GTA. Lots of girls go there to attention whore and any skin will attract mad sausage. I have never been but have been mulling if it would be a good spot to game. Most "day bars" tend to have a older crowd.

With schools I'm finding that grad Students are are good source to hunt. More and more grad students are just run of the mill broads and still most dudes in grad programs are older or losers depending on the program. Maybe for me swooping a 22-23 year old grad student at times is easier then swooping a 18 year old first year as I can take her drinking and she can do stuff solo.

York is the spot though. 90% of the people there are in some floozy liberal arts, and the girls there are way more easy to game I find. I've only done the main campus though, not the others. George Brown has some hotties too and I am going to go after those hard this since I lice close to the campus.

[RBerkley]

Kosko, I'm attending a college now. Better than Ryerson University, but still has a slight degree of Toronto feminist flavour.

Went around Concordia University and Mc Gill University in Montreal. I swear those two universities are Montreal versions of Ryerson University and the University of Toronto respectively.

I heard Humber College on Lakeshore is quite laidback. The west end of Toronto is quite chill as compared to the downtown core and midtown Toronto.

[civpro]

Another good yearly Toronto event, the best one nightgame-wise IMO, is the weekend closing out Gay Pride, which is in late June. A lot of guys would be wary of going because of the factor, but it's worth it to go and hit on the girls that come out, because the potential for escalation/pulls is as good as it gets.