[Ziltoid]

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/ju...asculinity

Quote:

The author Matt Haig found himself “crucified” online after suggesting that his next non-fiction title could be a book tackling masculinity.

Haig, who has won awards for his bestselling novels and wrote a recent memoir about depression, Reasons to Stay Alive, proposed on Twitter that his next book may be about masculinity. “Maybe I am missing something. There may be too many books about and by men, but not many looking at the perils of masculinity. Am I wrong?” he wrote on 13 June. “Unless you want to DO AWAY WITH MEN, then we need to look at what masculinity is and why its current interpretation causes problems.”

Haig said his argument would be that “men benefit more than women from sexism, but both would be better off with feminism”. He found himself quickly flooded with condemnation from those telling him to “stop talking about feminism now”, that he “has been mansplaining feminism”, and that “feminism doesn’t exist to help males. Period.”

[Conscious Pirate]

Just picked up Reasons To Stay Alive on a recommendation (by a particularly clueless female). Might just put it back down if this is the calibre of author we're dealing with. Should've known better.

Edit: 'men & women alike would benefit from men having a more fluid idea of what being a man is'. Caption from the header pic.

Fuck right off.

[Ziltoid]

(06-15-2015 10:29 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

Just picked up Reasons To Stay Alive on a recommendation (by a particularly clueless female). Might just put it back down if this is the calibre of author we're dealing with. Should've known better.

Edit: 'men & women alike would benefit from men having a more fluid idea of what being a man is'. Caption from the header pic.

Fuck right off.

Yes. He's writing a softball anti-male pro-feminist book that would make it into bestseller lists and be lauded by academic and tumblr feminists alike if it were written by a woman or a fag.
They're just plain admiting that misandry is their true driving force, now.

I love seeing this kind of shit happen to white knights and pontifical betas.

[Suits]

Ugly women like feminism, because it's an exclusive club that men can't join.

Nothing more.

[manly5000]

Sure is fun watching these freaks eat their own.

[CactusCat589]

Good, this piece of shit deserves it.

[eljeffster]

(06-15-2015 09:52 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/ju...asculinity

Quote:

Haig said his argument would be that “men benefit more than women from sexism, but both would be better off with feminism”. He found himself quickly flooded with condemnation from those telling him to “stop talking about feminism now”, that he “has been mansplaining feminism”, and that “feminism doesn’t exist to help males. Period.”

Right, so feminists don't want men to talk about feminism, discuss feminism and [despite Harry Potter girl telling us how feminism is for men] that feminism doesn't exist to help males. So we as men say fuck your feminism.

No commitment, no white knighting, no protection, no free meals, no free drinks.

I don't care about the "rape crisis", I don't care about "manspreading" or "mansplaining". I don't care if you earn less. I don't care if your not in STEM. I don't care if your not in politics. I don't care if someone is hurting your feelings on the internet.

I will not feel sorry for you on a jury. I will not fight your wars. I will not change your tire or kill that spider. I will not listen.

You're only good for sex and status now.

I no longer care.

Good luck.

[Tytalus]

Holy fuck. Is this peak feminism here when a man, by any reasonable interpretation is an ally of feminism, considers himself a feminist, and wants to help the movement and is eaten alive for it?

Holy shit guys; this guy needs some kind of eye opener to the red pill.

[Atlanta Man]

Men have got to learn if women are not fucking you do not cater to them. For the love of god if your Twitter is your name, and your income depends on women, don't tweet random thoughts.

[Bill Brasky]

I love when feminists attack their "allies." I wish they would do it more often. Only when white-knights hit bottom and fully realize that their white-knight game will never pay off will they be willing to see the light.

[Surreyman]

(06-16-2015 03:58 AM)mrbiggs Wrote:  

I love when feminists attack their "allies." I wish they would do it more often. Only when white-knights hit bottom and fully realize that their white-knight game will never pay off will they be willing to see the light.

A simple formula:

The more people invest their time and effort into an ideology, the more cognitive dissonance they are capable of. They will explain it all away.

He will say it's not the feminists fault, they're just jaded and hurt by the patriarchy (passing the blame to other men) and/or he miscommunicated (internalising the blame). Obviously this is incorrect, they're privileged western women whose party/gravy train was crashed by this man. He will not see this, because he's invested too much of his life to quit now. I forget his age, but he's 30s or 40s, so he's been playing this game since college. He's built a kaleidoscope through which to view the world, and after all these years, it's quite robust.

Anyone who has ever left a religion can recognise this thought process.

[Surreyman]

(06-16-2015 01:50 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

Holy fuck. Is this peak feminism here when a man, by any reasonable interpretation is an ally of feminism, considers himself a feminist, and wants to help the movement and is eaten alive for it?

I think peak feminism has hit, since both awareness and ridiculing of it seems to be at an all time high. That's based on my observations outside of this forum.

The idea of a man writing a book for men, explaining to them why feminism benefits them struck a nerve. I think it's because it doesn't fit with the slave mentality of feminism. They believe that 'oppressed' groups have moral authority, that's why they try so hard to identify as anything other than straight, white, male, Christian etc. It's a projection of their own inadequacies in life, and their own failure to develop into well rounded human beings. Instead of criticising themselves, they say that it is the world that must somehow be 'wrong', 'immoral', etc.

If you understand Nietzsche's concept of Slave Morality, you will understand modern socialists. It's a perverse religion to replace Christianity, despite being based on so many of the same philosophical principles.

[Aphex]

I wonder when these white knighting fags will ever realize that men are the enemy to feminism. Feminists can't fucking stand men. So to cow-tow to these crazy bitches is essentially suicide. I wish they would get it through their fucking heads. FEMINISTS DON'T LIKE YOU. YOU ARE THE ENEMY AND NO AMOUNT OF ASS KISSING, ANTI-MASCULINE SPEAK IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT. WAKE THE FUCK UP ALREADY. Makes me want to find this guy and bitchslap the fuck out of him.

[TheMan]

Haha. The stupid Uncle Tom, has begun to receive his comeuppance.

This could only be more sweet, if they somehow managed to Divorce-rape his savings and toss him in the clink.

[TheMan]

(06-16-2015 06:07 PM)Aphex Wrote:  

I wonder when these white knighting fags will ever realize that men are the enemy to feminism. Feminists can't fucking stand men. So to cow-tow to these crazy bitches is essentially suicide. I wish they would get it through their fucking heads. FEMINISTS DON'T LIKE YOU. YOU ARE THE ENEMY AND NO AMOUNT OF ASS KISSING, ANTI-MASCULINE SPEAK IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT. WAKE THE FUCK UP ALREADY. Makes me want to find this guy and bitchslap the fuck out of him.

No point.

This dude most likely comes from a broken home, with a weak or absent father, and a bitter, approval withholding mother.

He is essentially projecting his internal drama, out into the world:
"look mommy, look how I called daddy a stupid man and said that you were right all along!"
"...can I have some love now please?"

Their distain only feeds the psychosis.