I would like to have you all's opinion on this, do you think we should wait for girls to come to us. A lot of guys will say don't bother women an just randomly approach them, they think that's weird instead just wait for her to approach. To me sure it is a good sign if a girl makes the first move but i firmly believe if you want something go for it, an yea that means the cute girl standing next to you in the store. It's just amazing to me how many guys say they don't approach they just wait for girls to come to them yet most of them are single or the girls that approach them are not the most attractive. Anyway what do you guys think ?
Should we wait for girls to approcah us ?
NO, if you are attracted to a girl, you at least have to try to talk to her. When I chicken out and don't try, I don't forgive myself and head over to whole foods or some other lair for hot women and hit on women until I forget the sting of chickening out on talking to a chick. Just be aware that it is a low percentage attempt and don't be surprised when she doesn't bite. I've found more and more that girls LIKE to be day gamed by a guy who has his shit together and even if they don't agree to go out with me, they usually give a positive reaction and get happy.
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Depends how high value you are in your natural state. If you are new I wouldn't bother taking that advice and rolling with it. You will not learn anything. However as you progress you will notice that girls do approach you in much more subtle ways, which is probably what these fellas are referring to.
Example. You are walking in a bar, you lock eye contact with a girl, you smile, she smiles and you walk outside to the smoking area. She drags her friend out and stands near you for a smoke. That is her approaching you.
In the above you might have done part of the work there but she followed you and non verbally invites you to engage conversation with her.
If you are great at dancing, then by dancing really well you will get many girls approaching to dance with you.
Perhaps not a great example but it is an example of how subtle a girl can be when she approaches.
Example. You are walking in a bar, you lock eye contact with a girl, you smile, she smiles and you walk outside to the smoking area. She drags her friend out and stands near you for a smoke. That is her approaching you.
In the above you might have done part of the work there but she followed you and non verbally invites you to engage conversation with her.
If you are great at dancing, then by dancing really well you will get many girls approaching to dance with you.
Perhaps not a great example but it is an example of how subtle a girl can be when she approaches.
Sure. If you don't wanna get laid.
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Yeah I normally just stand at the bar and wait for a hot girl to come up to me with a condom and whisper in my ear '2nd stall from the left'. The trick is to stand at the bar 'just right'.
C'mon mate. Be a man for God's sake! As men we are to take the leading role in most if not all social interactions with women. Dominate, approach and get laid. Alternatively, don't do that and don't get laid. It's your choice.
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Last weekend me and my crew were out and about. We were in a packed bar watching the Barca Juve Final. My team had a tall good looking guy, two jacked buffed dudes, a guy with a car and a guy who stayed next to the bar. We spent the whole night sipping our beers waiting to get approached. Surprise, surprise we all went home alone.
Don't debate me.
Getting approached by girls is tough unless you have a high enough SMV. Even then, it's rare.
You generally have to make the move.
You generally have to make the move.
Waiting for "is that a good newspaper?"
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If you're friends with the "I don't approach girls, they approach me" kind of guys long enough, you'll understand why you shouldn't take advice from them. Even outside of the initial approach, they're stuck in the girl's frame. Hell, a buddy of mine now has a decent notch count (16), and he "waits for girls to come to him". However, he gets very easily hung up on ladies, and is still a one hundred percent AFC.
I probably would've said something like that when I was in college. Guess who didn't get laid in college?
That's what'll happen. If you SMV is 2+ points above hers, she might open you in a fit of desperation. I've had it happen to me a few times, but I have never been opened by a woman I'd be interested in banging. Back in college I actually got my one girlfriend that way, she opened me hanging out on the street watching a band play an outdoor concert but it was an absolutely shit relationship. But I would never ask my college self for game advice. Sounds like you need to find a different group of friends.
Quote: (06-09-2015 12:50 AM)Yankees2 Wrote:
It's just amazing to me how many guys say they don't approach they just wait for girls to come to them yet most of them are single or the girls that approach them are not the most attractive. Anyway what do you guys think ?
That's what'll happen. If you SMV is 2+ points above hers, she might open you in a fit of desperation. I've had it happen to me a few times, but I have never been opened by a woman I'd be interested in banging. Back in college I actually got my one girlfriend that way, she opened me hanging out on the street watching a band play an outdoor concert but it was an absolutely shit relationship. But I would never ask my college self for game advice. Sounds like you need to find a different group of friends.
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Quote: (06-09-2015 12:50 AM)Yankees2 Wrote:
I would like to have you all's opinion on this, do you think we should wait for girls to come to us. A lot of guys will say don't bother women an just randomly approach them, they think that's weird instead just wait for her to approach. To me sure it is a good sign if a girl makes the first move but i firmly believe if you want something go for it, an yea that means the cute girl standing next to you in the store. It's just amazing to me how many guys say they don't approach they just wait for girls to come to them yet most of them are single or the girls that approach them are not the most attractive. Anyway what do you guys think ?
what I think... I would have to live million times on earth maybe then I will be lucky when 1 girl will approach me
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TL;DR - No don't wait. I doubt you'll be approached much.
Simply - if your Value is relatively high in a particular setting, some girls will approach you. On the other hand if your value is high and up in the stratosphere, then hot, in-their-prime girls will approach you BUT only if approaching you and 'catching' you will boost their group / social standing (in other words if they think they'll be better off than, and be envied by, girls who are similarly 8s and 9s just like them). Please note - Girls only ever do work for some payoff or other.
Simply - if your Value is relatively high in a particular setting, some girls will approach you. On the other hand if your value is high and up in the stratosphere, then hot, in-their-prime girls will approach you BUT only if approaching you and 'catching' you will boost their group / social standing (in other words if they think they'll be better off than, and be envied by, girls who are similarly 8s and 9s just like them). Please note - Girls only ever do work for some payoff or other.
Why isn't this in the newbie subforum?
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that would be a completely futile effort.
To answer OP's question: You should wait for girls to approach you if you don't want to get laid.
sometimes I wonder why do us guys have to rely on our social-skills and conversation-skills, the way we talk in order to get women to want to date us or sleep with us instead of just having to fight other rival males just like other male animals do, it would probably be more simple and easy that way.
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Here is a guy who has waited for girls to approach him.
Seriously - what is with those questions. Yes - extremely good-looking guys can get approached, but even then it is by girls 2-4 points below their looks-level. And this works only if you are one of the few who could almost model and wouldn't mind banging barely bangable girls.
We approach, they decide based on how we do it. That is how our human species works - won't be able to change that.
Only women below you such as fatties, ugly bitches will approach cause no man would ever approach them. If you're Brad Pitt it's a different story.
Bottom line, the hottest you going to have to work for. They don't approach cause they are busy being approach all the time.
When I was young, guys that said this said it cause they were to scared to approach a woman.
Bottom line, the hottest you going to have to work for. They don't approach cause they are busy being approach all the time.
When I was young, guys that said this said it cause they were to scared to approach a woman.
Did the OP get banned immediately after asking this question?
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Quote: (06-10-2015 07:33 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
Here is a guy who has waited for girls to approach him.
Seriously - what is with those questions. Yes - extremely good-looking guys can get approached, but even then it is by girls 2-4 points below their looks-level. And this works only if you are one of the few who could almost model and wouldn't mind banging barely bangable girls.
We approach, they decide based on how we do it. That is how our human species works - won't be able to change that.
I wonder, why do women deserve sympathy, empathy as their mating market value declines as they get older? women will never know the pain, frustration guys, men have to go through when it comes to stepping out of their comfort zone.
I wonder if things are that fucked up in the west, here when we see women who are unmarried before they're 26, we just laugh at them and and think they have mental issues.
I laugh everytime I see this video, that's life, reality, dealing women with karma for them playing a passive role in society:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0
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