[Tytalus]

(03-26-2015 10:53 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 10:29 AM)RickyGP Wrote:  

Other Barry, you know what is sad about your humorous comparison? Having actually checked out some My Little Pony, I can tell you that the ponies are mentally tougher than these 'safe room' attendees.

I WISH THAT WERE AN EXAGGERATION!

LOL.

Fuck man. The place I work at (a college) is starting to have hints of this stuff - I just don't get it.

[kbell]

[Kingsley Davis]

(03-24-2015 06:02 PM)Renzy Wrote:  

I'm surprised there's not a Daily Show style program dedicated to mocking liberals and feminism. At this point the material would basically write itself.

Get familiar.

[Easy_C]

The entire rants about "negativity" are entirely a way to deflect criticism.

A friend of mine used to be active the local politics (Colorado Springs, Colorado) and he's noticed a lot of whining about "negativity" used to cover up corrupt agendas. He had some choice words to say about the subject when talking about the city (which he means with the abbreviation "COS"), but the same criticism applies almost any time you here someone start whining about "negativity"

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People think I'm negative because they don't want to accept facts and reality, and frankly I'm tired of the double standards and hypocrisy. People talk about making this city better but so few will even admit what the challenges are in the first place. I asked honest questions hoping that someone would enlightenment dumb ol' me who apparently just doesn't get it because I'm just always negative in cheerleaders' eyes. There is a difference between having a positive attitude and resolve and blatantly ignoring reality. I will go back to ignoring COS and the networking, incestuous good ol' boy culture because no one wants to say the emperor isn't wearing clothes.

No one from that clique has ever been able to articulate a logical reason as to why what they do is a good thing. As long as everyone smiles, gets along and acts like f'n Mr. Rogers that is seen as "positive" and acceptable because THAT is the participation trophy and hubristic culture we have. Everyone wants to an Olympian but none want to put in the effort or want to accept that they just don't have the ability.

It makes me sad that people see this as "negative" and have a predisposition towards anything I say because of it. It makes me sick that people know something is wrong but are too afraid to say anything against it, or bite their tongue because they want to use that person or channel to "network" and build business, or that any level of discernment in regards to forward thinking and quality is "negative". This is why we have apathy, this is why we have entitled stupid voters like the girl in the article, this is why COS is not where it should be.

It applies all over. Nobody wants to accept criticism of feminism mostly because they're afraid of being ostracized from business networks, nobody will critique LGBT for the same reason, and anyone pointing out the destructive effects of the left-wing culture war is being "negative" or "bigoted".

He said it best:

Any level of discernment in regards to forward thinking and quality is "negative"

[Beyond Borders]

Without even attempting humor here, the use of Play-doh, coloring books, and puppy videos is in itself a very telling (and disturbing) indication of the psyche of these "rape culture" addicts. The acceptance of this behavior is truly mind-boggling, and it would be even if it wasn't taking place in a so-called center for higher learning.

I don't see how anyone can take American universities seriously at this point given what goes on there. Give me a library with some comfy chairs and a stack of old books any day of the week. College might be target-rich, but I'll meet my women in the real world, thank you very much.

[Sonsowey]

That Portlandia clip is killing me at the restaurant asking about the chicken.

"How big was the area the chickens could roam around?"

This is hilarious jesus.

[Akula]

(04-11-2015 03:21 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Without even attempting humor here, the use of Play-doh, coloring books, and puppy videos is in itself a very telling (and disturbing) indication of the psyche of these "rape culture" addicts. The acceptance of this behavior is truly mind-boggling, and it would be even if it wasn't taking place in a so-called center for higher learning.

I don't see how anyone can take American universities seriously at this point given what goes on there. Give me a library with some comfy chairs and a stack of old books any day of the week. College might be target-rich, but I'll meet my women in the real world, thank you very much.

Yeah me neither. Not sure how more questions are not being asked about how bad it is in colleges these days. Let alone debating why one needs to fork over $150K+ as a parent to put a kid through (school so that they get indoctrinated into SJW culture (or just booze it up 4 years)). It's becoming a bit of a joke, but I guess you really need a degree and toe the PC/SJW party line to get any sort of decent job.

[RIslander]

From Arthur Schopenhauer's "On Women":

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place."

[General Stalin]

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The room was equipped with cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies

?

[spokepoker]

(04-13-2015 01:58 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

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The room was equipped with cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies

?

They are just trolling themselves.

[Snowplow]

Is the opposite of the safe space the

[Renzy]

Even The Onion is making fun of college kids and their hypersensitivities:

Students, Faculty Invited To Freely Express Single Viewpoint

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BOSTON—Saying that such a dialogue was essential to the college’s academic mission, Trescott University president Kevin Abrams confirmed Monday that the school encourages a lively exchange of one idea. “As an institution of higher learning, we recognize that it’s inevitable that certain contentious topics will come up from time to time, and when they do, we want to create an atmosphere where both students and faculty feel comfortable voicing a single homogeneous opinion,” said Abrams, adding that no matter the subject, anyone on campus is always welcome to add their support to the accepted consensus. “Whether it’s a discussion of a national political issue or a concern here on campus, an open forum in which one argument is uniformly reinforced is crucial for maintaining the exceptional learning environment we have cultivated here.” Abrams told reporters that counseling resources were available for any student made uncomfortable by the viewpoint.

[DickDastardly]

delete

[Tigre]

My Title IX Inquisition: http://chronicle.com/article/My-Title-IX...pybltcGQ==

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Let me interject that I don’t think my university necessarily wanted to be the venue for a First Amendment face-off — indeed, the president himself had recently published an op-ed in defense of academic freedom. As I understand it, any Title IX charge that’s filed has to be investigated, which effectively empowers anyone on campus to individually decide, and expand, what Title IX covers. Anyone with a grudge, a political agenda, or a desire for attention can quite easily leverage the system.

And there are a lot of grudges these days. The reality is that the more colleges devote themselves to creating "safe spaces" — that new watchword — for students, the more dangerous those campuses become for professors. It’s astounding how aggressive students’ assertions of vulnerability have gotten in the past few years. Emotional discomfort is regarded as equivalent to material injury, and all injuries have to be remediated.

...

A tenured professor on my campus wrote about lying awake at night worrying that some stray remark of hers might lead to student complaints, social-media campaigns, eventual job loss, and her being unable to support her child. I’d thought she was exaggerating, but that was before I learned about the Title IX complaints against me.

This story is a continuation of one of the cases mentioned below (from the OP article).

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I’m old enough to remember a time when college students objected to providing a platform to certain speakers because they were deemed politically unacceptable. Now students worry whether acts of speech or pieces of writing may put them in emotional peril. Two weeks ago, students at Northwestern University marched to protest an article by Laura Kipnis, a professor in the university’s School of Communication. Professor Kipnis had criticized — O.K., ridiculed — what she called the sexual paranoia pervading campus life.

The protesters carried mattresses and demanded that the administration condemn the essay. One student complained that Professor Kipnis was “erasing the very traumatic experience” of victims who spoke out. An organizer of the demonstration said, “we need to be setting aside spaces to talk” about “victim-blaming.” Last Wednesday, Northwestern’s president, Morton O. Schapiro, wrote an op-ed article in The Wall Street Journal affirming his commitment to academic freedom. But plenty of others at universities are willing to dignify students’ fears, citing threats to their stability as reasons to cancel debates, disinvite commencement speakers and apologize for so-called mistakes.

[emilian]

Oh man...the west is full of spoiled kindegarden adults.

[AnonymousBosch]

Read this interesting article the other day.

Mandatory Thought Reform at the University Of Deleware

The timeline seems about right, assuming a similar process is happening in other universities, because the 'white privilege / reverse racism' rhetoric is identical and the 'educated' children of the white middle class have suspiciously similar thought processes. This is probably where the notion of 'free speech' and 'objectivity being irrelevant' comes from too. Another member told me privately he'd been subjected to Social Justice training during his schooling.

It fits the Social Justice Timeline I'd noticed a few times before: this new wave of PC thinking starts creeping into public-discourse via the media post-2008. It was seeping into the edges of music journalism circa 2009, mainstream media by about 2011-2012, and games Journalism by 2013. All remaining Progressive Media sources are staffed with these brainwashed, Puritan drones by early 2014.

I doubt there is one Millennial in traditional mainstream media writing now who hasn't been brainwashed in this manner.

This is why it's ridiculous for anyone to expect a fair trial by media in this climate, and why Gamergate has always been wasting its time trying to argue reasonably. The media are Cultists. You're better off targeting your attacker and throwing them to their own social justice wolves, which is easy enough when everyone is so hyper-sensitive.

[kbell]

I remember that back 7 years ago. Haven't heard what they morphed it into though. That students that come from that college are pretty dumb and not well adjusted to work in the work world.

[Veloce]

Self indulgent rant:

To think back in my pre-teen/teen days... The INSANE amount of pressure to get into a good school, get a good education, and a good job. The minute I turned 13 and hit high school, college was this looming rite of passage that everyone was talking about; college names were thrown around like famous baseball players. The status and ego involved in the whole thing was nuts. Somehow or another I wound up getting into an Advanced Placement English class and was surrounded by kids with scholarships to Harvey Mudd, MIT, any Ivy league college you could name (I wound up getting the lowest grade in the class. The teacher made sure to emphasize this to me for the hell I put him through. I scraped by with a D) It was a high pressure situation. We were told the SAT score would decide our fate for the rest of our lives.

I think about the abject feelings of failure I had when I had to break the news to my parents that I hadn't even applied to any colleges. But it was a massive relief. I didn't even try. I enrolled in a year of community college. The only classes I showed up to were music theory, music history, ensemble class, and performance class. To get my AA I had to take psychology and some other bullshit classes that I never showed up to. After a year I dropped out to live with 4 of my buddies in a counter-culture house and work at a deli. For a while I slept on a couch that would give you a rash if it touched your skin. We took hallucinogens quite frequently and the sheer quantity of alcohol and weed that moved through that apartment was staggering. We read Bukowski, listened to every classical composer and metal band on earth, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Captain Beefheart, read Plato's Dialogues, Marcus Aurelius, Tim Leary, Terrence McKenna, Ram Dass, Jack Kerouac, Hunter Thompson. We took mushrooms and went to museums to stare at Impressionist paintings. While high school kids toured with a guide and fucked around, not paying attention, we sat in rapture looking at Van Gogh and Monet, watching the colors and brushstrokes swirling on a luminescent canvass. We got in the head of the artists. We learned the importance of experience versus knowledge. We started to see society around us as automatons living according to the status quo but not taking any risks or living for themselves. I can't help but think that modern education has a lot to do with this. We were on some sort of trajectory that we couldn't put a name on, but we felt that we were doing something right, something real, that we were winning. It was a magical time.

Years later, I am infinitely grateful that I didn't go to college. I went to a trade school for something that I was very passionate about.

You hear all kinds of shit your whole life like, "Follow your heart." You hear it so often and see it on Instagram whore feeds to the point it's trite and meaningless. But it's true. I honestly don't know what I would do if I was in an environment where the mentality like the one in this article was prevalent. It genuinely pains me to think of the resources spent so these little neo-Nazis can have their fucking safe space.


Or to quote Bukowski:

the replacements

Jack London drinking his life away while
writing of strange and heroic men.
Eugene O’Neill drinking himself oblivious
while writing his dark and poetic
works.

now our moderns
lecture at universities
in tie and suit,
the little boys soberly studious,
the little girls with glazed eyes
looking
up,
the lawns so green, the books so dull,
the life so dying of
thirst.

[rpg]

(05-29-2015 08:14 PM)kbell Wrote:  

I remember that back 7 years ago. Haven't heard what they morphed it into though. That students that come from that college are pretty dumb and not well adjusted to work in the work world.

This shit we are enduring is because everyone is taught they are special.
We lost the ability to tell people to sit down and shut the fuck up. When employers lose the ability to fire idiots, we are gonna be fucked.