[BlueOcean]

(05-29-2015 10:05 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 09:57 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Also, this guy got screwed -- ironically -- because he's Jewish. The wilder type Jewish girls don't go near Nice Jewish Boys like him until they're around 35 or so and have exhausted (am I mean that literally) all their other options.

Asian American and Indian American girls are like this too. It's beta bucks/alpha fucks all the way for many until they hit their 30's. Then when they don't find that sperm donor they try and settle.

The psychology is remarkably similar. Even with the social prominence of Jewish men it's still not enough to satisfy the tingles.

There actually are a lot of Jewish guys with game these days. Many of them have given up on Jewish girls to pursue "shisksas." Especially around LA, a lot of the hottest girls are with Jewish playboys. Russian-Jewish dudes are very Red Pill too. No sentimentalism among them, but I think that's a general Russian/Eastern Euro trait.

A lot of Jewish kids are nerdy in high school, but they improve a lot when they get to college. Even a lot of the more socially inept Jewish dudes fool around a lot with Asian and Indian girls.

I think Roissy is Jewish.

[Tytalus]

Gosh, what a depressing story. I agree - in another time this guy would have been seen as "sweet & endearing" vs "boring".

[StrikeBack]

(05-30-2015 01:09 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

Gosh, what a depressing story. I agree - in another time this guy would have been seen as "sweet & endearing" vs "boring".

Even in our time, he should be able to get away with flowers on the first date, because he has so much more value than this ugly rhino. But the West has gone completely insane, so....

Regarding Asian American (Australian in my case) girls, yeah they are ruthless when it comes to beta bux time. They are smarter than white girls, they get in for the beta bux earlier. One in my social circle just turned 30, and is now dating this Asian guy. They've known each other for well over a decade now, and she's always thought that he's lame. She's mostly dated white guys. Now she's seeing him, and we ask what he's like. Her answer is very telling. She focuses entirely on him working in finance, starting up a side business, having a nice apartment etc. i.e his beta bux power. We hear nothing else about him. In contrast, we would hear about how hot or exciting the previous guys she dated were. If only her new Asian guy could listen to those conversations and hear the contrast...

[emilian]

(05-29-2015 03:45 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 10:51 AM)emilian Wrote:  

Here in Greece whe would be considered mediocre to ugly.
Also, very pretentious for a used up woman. women have no idea about real world.

In a good area of the United States, she would also be considered mediocre to ugly. In the D.C. area, both of these people are above average.

D.C. deserves the hype after all.
Men must be desperate there....or "women in power" (by state) live in their dream.

[CRR]

(05-29-2015 04:24 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I think this may be the thread where I've hit the "like" button the most, great commentary on here, all I wanted to say is this just represents on a greater level the imbalance in the dating or sexual marketplace that is occurring in most parts of the U.S. A lot of the elite guys on here are talking about having harems full of women which is always the ideal goal, but the vast majority of guys in the U.S. are struggling to get sex from women that are usually not much better than a 6.

That said a lot of that blame is to be put on the man, if this Jewish dude from date lab hadn't showed up with flowers, came through wearing a fitted shirt, leather jacket, nice jeans, etc., had more of a cool guy vibe, and didn't scream cookie cutter cubicle beta, maybe the date would have gone completely different and the dude would have fucked her ass the same night.

However, the point I'm trying to make is that these two are arguably a good match on paper, they are both relatively close in terms of looks, I'd say they are both around a 6 with their SMV, however due to this imbalance in the sexual market place girls like her can sit back and pick and choose, have betas orbit, compete for their attention, shower them with praise, stroke their egos, while they pine over "hot alphas" who pick them up at the bar at the end of a Friday night, only to pump and dump them, and never text or see them again.

Shit I'm a relatively young dude, but I'm willing to bet things weren't this bad in the past, I bet 20 or 30 years ago this date may have worked out well, and the two would have hit it off, or at least she'd be open to the idea of seeing the guy again, and not say he was creepy, and "too short" even though he was a 1/2 inch taller. These chicks standards and expectations have reached ridiculous levels at least relative to their value and where it should be.

Hopefully I'm not coming off as overly defeated or pessimistic, I've seen my share of successes and failures. Game makes a huge difference and will help a guy achieve greater quality and quantity, but I still feel like it's often too much more effort and hassle than it should be, and women are just getting more delusional regarding what they feel like they deserve in a man.

Good post, but I disagree that they are a good match on paper.

He brings some solid qualities to the table. He is relatively fit, has a stable job, and seems like a respectful human being.

She's an entitled SIF who should be at the peak of her physical prime with a criminal record. She brings nothing to the table.

(05-29-2015 09:57 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 09:48 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Jewish girls like this need to be treated like whores. It's what they crave (and often what they are). WB only if she showed up naked with a case of Muscle Milk.

Brian is right, especially w.r.t. a place like DC. I've been on so many dates where I see other couples also on dates, and the guys have no clue. Probably never will. They'll be sitting across from each other talking about some BS, meanwhile I have my tongue in the girls throat and her hand on my dick.

All this dude has to do is google "how to meet girls in DC." ROK article is1st hit, Roosh article is 4th hit. I mean it's right there in front of them, it's not even a big secret anymore if they just know how to use google.

You know, if you really knew Jewish girls, you'd know that the "bang" is beside the point. They're into giving Lewinskys.

Also, this guy got screwed -- ironically -- because he's Jewish. The wilder type Jewish girls don't go near Nice Jewish Boys like him until they're around 35 or so and have exhausted (am I mean that literally) all their other options.

Haha, very true.

As a Jewish man, with a lot of experience past and present, I have a lot of these women thrown my way and it's hilarious.

They'll aggressively try to impress me, but they also resent the fact I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. Now, this has little to do with me, rather that they have developed a transactional approach to meeting men. In other words, they are incapable of loving or even caring about another human being, it's all about what a guy can do for them (which I think applies to a lot of modern women).

In their mind, I check the boxes (right religion, right job, right family), and they are desperate to have kids. In my mind, they are physically repulsive. And what's even more hilarious, they and the people introduce us can't comprehend why I'd date/bang a younger, much more attractive and pleasant woman over an "age-appropriate" woman from a good family? I never understand the "she comes from a good family" argument. I'm not trying to fuck her family. But in all seriousness, I already have financial stability (which is what they are implying with "she comes from a good family"), so what the fuck do I need them for except the possibility of controlling in-laws, which is of course an obvious deal breaker for me?

These women need to either 1) Accept that they should've tried to land a mate during their physical prime OR 2) Hope to land a late-40s, early 50s divorcee who still has some $$ left and doesn't want kids (obviously if he still wants kids, he'll just go younger).

All the "nice" Jewish guys I know who got married in their 30s also aren't stupid. They all married women several years younger than them who can have kids. One in particular (great guy) is 39 and married to a nice girl eleven years younger and has two kids.

So regarding the Date Lab people, he'll be fine. He probably just needs to be a little more assertive, and certainly more picky.

Her? She needs to lose weight and the attitude. But considering our culture encourages this in women, being fat and entitled, it's not likely. I see at best a very unhappy marriage in her future, but more likely, cats.

[JoyStick]

(05-29-2015 01:33 PM)Honorable Man Wrote:  

WE CAN SAVE HIM. Somebody find his contact info so we can adopt him into the RVF family. No man deserves to die knowing where to find the closest pet shop.

Has any of y'all trled giving good advice to a beta? They won't listen to us anyways. They act like they're above it.

[Captain Gh]

I'm being the biggest Beta right now since I've got the Like button on Deck on this thread

[El Chinito loco]

(05-30-2015 12:25 AM)BlueOcean Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 10:05 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 09:57 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Also, this guy got screwed -- ironically -- because he's Jewish. The wilder type Jewish girls don't go near Nice Jewish Boys like him until they're around 35 or so and have exhausted (am I mean that literally) all their other options.

Asian American and Indian American girls are like this too. It's beta bucks/alpha fucks all the way for many until they hit their 30's. Then when they don't find that sperm donor they try and settle.

The psychology is remarkably similar. Even with the social prominence of Jewish men it's still not enough to satisfy the tingles.

There actually are a lot of Jewish guys with game these days. Many of them have given up on Jewish girls to pursue "shisksas." Especially around LA, a lot of the hottest girls are with Jewish playboys. Russian-Jewish dudes are very Red Pill too. No sentimentalism among them, but I think that's a general Russian/Eastern Euro trait.

A lot of Jewish kids are nerdy in high school, but they improve a lot when they get to college. Even a lot of the more socially inept Jewish dudes fool around a lot with Asian and Indian girls.

I think Roissy is Jewish.

Jewish men occupy a higher social-economic strata and are defacto whites in America and have powerful influence over industries in media, finance, and law.. more so than asian-americans so that's not surprising.

However, even the most affluent Jew often gets ensnared into the beta bucks dynamic...Zuckerberg and his asian 3 and a few other prominent Jews are an example of this. I'd even point out Woody Allen as an example. He was willing to put his career and reputation on the line for some degenerate action from the stepdaughter pussy that he raised.

What I was pointing out is how similar this J.A.P. was to many asian/indian-american girls in her carousel aspirations. She has a firm aversion to her own ethnicity and is seeking strange alpha cock in society. It's hypergamy and social acceptance seeking gone wild.

[lemko]

(05-29-2015 04:18 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 03:18 PM)DetlefMourning Wrote:  

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Rebec...g_5536767/



WNB.

In what world would this busted broad get flowers? She'd be lucky to get cab fare back home...

After she hit's 30, the next time she'll get flowers is at her funeral.

[Cattle Rustler]

(05-29-2015 04:24 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Shit I'm a relatively young dude, but I'm willing to bet things weren't this bad in the past, I bet 20 or 30 years ago this date may have worked out well, and the two would have hit it off, or at least she'd be open to the idea of seeing the guy again, and not say he was creepy, and "too short" even though he was a 1/2 inch taller. These chicks standards and expectations have reached ridiculous levels at least relative to their value and where it should be.

I've seen bitches who are 5ft flat saying that anything below 5'10" is too short.

I'm like: Bitch, even if you wore 6 inch heels....there's still a 4 inch difference.

[HonantheBarbarian]

I don't know what it is, but I find jew broads physically repulsive. Their bad attitudes only cement this further.

[Merenguero]

If I had to guess I'd say that Tuthmosis is preparing to drop a bomb here. You may have noticed that he has been conspicuously absent from this thread.

[Dusty]

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[Apollo21]

(05-30-2015 11:10 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:33 PM)Honorable Man Wrote:  

WE CAN SAVE HIM. Somebody find his contact info so we can adopt him into the RVF family. No man deserves to die knowing where to find the closest pet shop.

Has any of y'all trled giving good advice to a beta? They won't listen to us anyways. They act like they're above it.

It threatens their fragile ego. To admit they need help is somehow
like admitting they're not a man. It's ridiculous.

It's pretty bad though when the girl has more game than the guy.

Datelab should have done a better job matching them. That date was a slaughter
waiting to happen.

[CRR]

(05-30-2015 04:02 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 04:24 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Shit I'm a relatively young dude, but I'm willing to bet things weren't this bad in the past, I bet 20 or 30 years ago this date may have worked out well, and the two would have hit it off, or at least she'd be open to the idea of seeing the guy again, and not say he was creepy, and "too short" even though he was a 1/2 inch taller. These chicks standards and expectations have reached ridiculous levels at least relative to their value and where it should be.

I've seen bitches who are 5ft flat saying that anything below 5'10" is too short.

I'm like: Bitch, even if you wore 6 inch heels....there's still a 4 inch difference.

In case you missed it, from the online hamster thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11111-...pid1027930

(05-30-2015 05:44 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 11:10 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:33 PM)Honorable Man Wrote:  

WE CAN SAVE HIM. Somebody find his contact info so we can adopt him into the RVF family. No man deserves to die knowing where to find the closest pet shop.

Has any of y'all trled giving good advice to a beta? They won't listen to us anyways. They act like they're above it.

It threatens their fragile ego. To admit they need help is somehow
like admitting they're not a man. It's ridiculous.

It's pretty bad though when the girl has more game than the guy.

Datelab should have done a better job matching them. That date was a slaughter
waiting to happen.

Bottom line is, any man should be very careful about any situation that involves matchmaking.

A quick google search shows that Date Lab is run by two women, Amanda McGrath and Christina Breda Antoniades.

As practically any man knows, allowing a woman to set you up is almost always a terrible idea. The gulf between the women I've dated/banged and the women I've been set up with is the difference between a group of cute/petite/pleasant women and a rogues gallery of comic book villains.

Women bring their ego and insecurities into the equation, and they'll certainly overrate qualities in a woman (i.e. her job), as well as have an inverse view of what men want. Sarcasm is great right? Wrong. Being pleasant and courteous is what most men like. Add the fact that having curves now means being a dumpy fatass, and what becomes a 'great date' is a dumpy cubicle jockey with an aggressive personality.

Remember, we live in an age where a man is a pariah if he expresses any physical preference for a woman that does not equal "I love women with extra meat on her bones".

As I said earlier, what does this woman in particular bring to the table? She has a shitty attitude, and in a normal world would be called on it. In a normal world she'd be told to lose weight and the attitude. But in the world we live in, it's just dismissed as a bad match.

[Captainstabbin]

(05-30-2015 07:12 PM)CRR Wrote:  

The gulf between the women I've dated/banged and the women I've been set up with is the difference between a group of cute/petite/pleasant women and a rogues gallery of comic book villains.

A woman will rarely set you up with a girl more attractive than herself. It's usually at least a full point lower so she doesn't feel threatened.

[BlueOcean]

(05-30-2015 12:11 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 12:25 AM)BlueOcean Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 10:05 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 09:57 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Also, this guy got screwed -- ironically -- because he's Jewish. The wilder type Jewish girls don't go near Nice Jewish Boys like him until they're around 35 or so and have exhausted (am I mean that literally) all their other options.

Asian American and Indian American girls are like this too. It's beta bucks/alpha fucks all the way for many until they hit their 30's. Then when they don't find that sperm donor they try and settle.

The psychology is remarkably similar. Even with the social prominence of Jewish men it's still not enough to satisfy the tingles.

There actually are a lot of Jewish guys with game these days. Many of them have given up on Jewish girls to pursue "shisksas." Especially around LA, a lot of the hottest girls are with Jewish playboys. Russian-Jewish dudes are very Red Pill too. No sentimentalism among them, but I think that's a general Russian/Eastern Euro trait.

A lot of Jewish kids are nerdy in high school, but they improve a lot when they get to college. Even a lot of the more socially inept Jewish dudes fool around a lot with Asian and Indian girls.

I think Roissy is Jewish.

Jewish men occupy a higher social-economic strata and are defacto whites in America and have powerful influence over industries in media, finance, and law.. more so than asian-americans so that's not surprising.

However, even the most affluent Jew often gets ensnared into the beta bucks dynamic...Zuckerberg and his asian 3 and a few other prominent Jews are an example of this. I'd even point out Woody Allen as an example. He was willing to put his career and reputation on the line for some degenerate action from the stepdaughter pussy that he raised.

What I was pointing out is how similar this J.A.P. was to many asian/indian-american girls in her carousel aspirations. She has a firm aversion to her own ethnicity and is seeking strange alpha cock in society. It's hypergamy and social acceptance seeking gone wild.

I think Jewish guys are on the extremes. Lots of beta Zuckerberg guys who play up their beta bucks, but also lots of Red Pillers. The Red Pillers are usually Hollywood money or mixed Jewish/gentile or Russian Jews. Russian Jews are especially Red Pill, as they come from a land of very tough men.

The girls are definitely princesses who feel like they deserve the world. The wives are very shrewish (no offense to anyone here). I would never marry one.

The thing about Jewish dudes is that even when they get into the provider role, lots of them still bang on the side.

[BlueOcean]

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I never understand the "she comes from a good family" argument. I'm not trying to fuck her family.