[kerouac]

It's natural for a forum like this to look at the shitty side of the women-folk, so I thought it would be good to think of some reason's why it's sometimes nice to look at your relationship with them from outside the hoe-sphere.

A good, stable girl can do a few things for you...

She can bring you up when you're feeling down.
She can travel with you and give your travel a different experience... a shared experience, or just a different experience than going around parts of the world on the hunt.
She can be push you when you wouldn't push yourself.
She can influence both of you in a positive way if she really loves you.
She can give you the Yin to your Yang/Wang/Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang

Overall, I think one can live life focused on the negative aspects of the overall women-folk whom we encounter on our journey through poon-accumulation, but then every now and then you meet special diamonds-in-the-rough who propel you when you need a little bit of help.

The problem is... the majority of women we meet are bitches. You just have to not let you get down. I know, because I've met the occasional diamond-in-the-rough.

If you guys have some stories that highlight some positive aspects of the women-folk, I think it would do us all some good to share...

[thegmanifesto]

kerouac -

Good post.

If you will notice, I rarely pile on to the negative threads about women. And I rarely bash them (so to speak) except standard suburban American types. I remain very positive on girls. And I am extremely bullish on Latinas and European girls (I really need to go to SE Asia and see the hype for myself!)

That all being said, I have been meeting some real quality girls lately that I have been rolling with and/or traveling to see.

It is a little different, and I like it, it really gets you tuned into the culture of a country.

I wrote about it a little here:

Mini-Retirements and Mini-Relationships http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/02/min...ships.html

Quality girls; they are worth keeping around.

[K-man]

It's all for the kids, kerouac.
Human love is not a unique special thing - pair bonding is also observed in many animals, just watch the Discovery channel.
These things that you listed are all nice, but you get them in other ways, too; however, only a woman can give you kids, and only together with her can you raise them to become successful adults.
Yeah, it's a big sacrifice for a player, but isn't it one that your own Dad made for you?

[CJ]

I got lots of girls mom and dad, she's just my bottom bitch!

[BostonBMW]

Good thread - let me add on to it:

Having a top bitch is really helpful for those of us, who busy with work, other projects, and still want to have pussy on reserve. Currently I am working on a Half French Canadian/Half Korean chica (raised in S. Korea), who is giving me all the good girl signals, but I don't believe it for a second. Due to her wholesome vibe, I have rolled out to the places that I have on lock down, shown her a select few spots. This basic investment is yielding some solid dividends:

- Work: I brought her out to a launch party and the bosses and co-workers were impressed. She gave me the "balanced" vibes.
- Friends: Some my friends (who put their dicks in a box) in a relationship are reaching out to me for double dates and that nonsense. Their bitches feel much more at ease.
- Good ROI: So far, we haven't broached the relationship talk, but shes already getting those types of signals from my actions. I am planning on dragging this period for as long as possible. I'm meeting up with her on random nights (basically whenever I feel like calling), getting the bang (guaranteed), and she's started to pay for us when we out. I know that this shit won't last but if I can drag it out to another month, I should have this other girl coming out from Bosnia who is real traditional (meaning more accepting with me banging around).

I think women from traditional cultures are the way to go - not only are they sweeter to deal with but also understand the male-female dynamics and won't bring the level bitchness that is becoming far too common. My current chica is satisfied with the answer "I'm taking care of business" if I decide to cancel or run late.

[Gmac]

Alright last post before I head out.

Top bitches are great because they let you appear normal to your friends, family, and co-workers. It's helped keep 99% of the "when are you settling down?" comments to a minimum.

[blurb]

(05-28-2011 09:17 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

I should have this other girl coming out from Bosnia who is real traditional (meaning more accepting with me banging around).

Online dating?

[BostonBMW]

(05-29-2011 12:59 AM)blurb Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 09:17 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

I should have this other girl coming out from Bosnia who is real traditional (meaning more accepting with me banging around).

Online dating?

CS connect. She stayed over before, she saw the parade of girls that I was meeting at the club, she called me a player but still let me smash it on her last night here. She got a job as an Au Pair, and of course she hit me up immediately.

[Excelsior]

(05-28-2011 04:37 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Yeah, it's a big sacrifice for a player, but isn't it one that your own Dad made for you?

That's pretty compelling line of reasoning.

It gets less compelling if you're like me and your father was never around(no sacrifice made by him). It gets even less compelling still if you're from a culture (Jamaican) where the ethos of the absentee father is fairly strong supported (strong men make children-the weak man sticks around to raise them).
And then of course, the reasoning takes another hit when you look at yourself as the child of an absentee father and realize you turned out pretty ok.

But I guess even after all of that I'd still have to agree that children are better off in two-parent households. When you haven't seen much support for it yourself in your personal life (and you live in a society that ridicules family men and makes it easy for them to get legally robbed), however, its easy to just ignore that and plan to forgo that sacrifice(getting married, being father) altogether.

[thewanderer]

Hmmm, I think that the main nice aspect about having a "top bitch" is that it allows stable scheduling. That's probably the most important thing in my life.

[haywire]

I remember this guru talking about creating and maintaining a harem per your convenience, meaning you're dating multiple women but meet/invite them when they're the best fit for a given situation. For instance, a career girl for work parties, an artlover for operas, a fashionista for going out, a homely girl for dating and a nympho for banging!

Any of you guys have experiences with such a thing?

[BostonBMW]

^

Tried it. Logistics were a bitch. Career girl wanted to chill on a friday night, fashionista wanted to go to work parties. I say go for a top bitch and FB, your basic needs should be met by that combo.

[Vitriol]

I'm curious to know if any of the more experienced guys think that you actually get any kind of benefit from women beyond things that extend from their sexuality. I don't just mean literal sex and its positive consequences but things like the social proof of being in a venue with an attractive female.

As I get older and more honest with myself I really do think we're conditioned to overlook the fact that, from a heterosexual male's perspective, women are not very helpful and are really just a liability in pretty much every other aspect of life. I've had some disagreements with my male friends about this issue, but I don't think any of them are as realistic, practical, and nihilistic as I am.

Does anyone have any examples that can prove otherwise? I don't mean something like your mother helping you out either, that's a different kind of relationship than boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife.

[Htownanddown]

I usually have a girl who plays the "girlfriend" role. Honestly I like having someone to go to nice restaurants or museum exhibits with. I guess this is essentially beta provider game. Most of the time I have 2 to 3 regular girls on the side, then 2 to 3 prospects playing the whole text game. The "girlfriend" role is actually the easiest to fill, its keeping girls happy when you only see them once every other week thats hard. I've been doing this for about 2 years and the logistics can be insane to the point of not being worth it. It helps though that I split my time between two fairly large cities.

I find the roles almost have a built in shelf life, with my "girlfriend" role I treat her like a girlfriend except that I just refuse to discuss monogamy. If she brings it up I change the subject, I get pissed off etc. I can usually get away with this for a couple months and then she'll get frustrated. With all other girls I play the general alpha game, only meet for drinks cancel plans a lot etc.
There are certain challenges for sure though. I just had my birthday and of course my top girl wants to go as do three other girls Ive been banging on the side. I end up inviting none of them and actually banging a 9 that is a good friend of mine at my party. Now Im dealing with the fallout. Im actually having dinner with my top girl tonight to smooth things out, I guess we will see how it goes.

I have some pretty hard rules for my top girl though
1. I never travel with them
2. I tell them I don't have a FB
3. I don't let them stay at my place two nights in a row
4. I don't hang out with them more than 3 times a week

[Giovonny]

Getting a girlfriend is about the worst thing you can do for your Game. I had one for the past few months and it was lame. Sure the first 2 months were great (honeymoon stage). After that, it got old very fast. After fucking her about 20 times, I didn't even want to bang her anymore. Great girl and everything but that shit is just not for me.

I would rather deal with a little loneliness once in a while then deal with all the bullshit that comes with a girlfriend. My Game got rusty and I was letting alot of good prospects get away.

I'm not a "one woman man". No more gf's for me!!

[Gmac]

(06-01-2011 01:19 PM)Htownanddown Wrote:  

I usually have a girl who plays the "girlfriend" role. Honestly I like having someone to go to nice restaurants or museum exhibits with. I guess this is essentially beta provider game. Most of the time I have 2 to 3 regular girls on the side, then 2 to 3 prospects playing the whole text game. The "girlfriend" role is actually the easiest to fill, its keeping girls happy when you only see them once every other week thats hard. I've been doing this for about 2 years and the logistics can be insane to the point of not being worth it. It helps though that I split my time between two fairly large cities.

I find the roles almost have a built in shelf life, with my "girlfriend" role I treat her like a girlfriend except that I just refuse to discuss monogamy. If she brings it up I change the subject, I get pissed off etc. I can usually get away with this for a couple months and then she'll get frustrated. With all other girls I play the general alpha game, only meet for drinks cancel plans a lot etc.
There are certain challenges for sure though. I just had my birthday and of course my top girl wants to go as do three other girls Ive been banging on the side. I end up inviting none of them and actually banging a 9 that is a good friend of mine at my party. Now Im dealing with the fallout. Im actually having dinner with my top girl tonight to smooth things out, I guess we will see how it goes.

I have some pretty hard rules for my top girl though
1. I never travel with them
2. I tell them I don't have a FB
3. I don't let them stay at my place two nights in a row
4. I don't hang out with them more than 3 times a week

This is pretty much my mantra. I've managed to keep it going for nearly 5 months now with one "girlfriend."