[El Chinito loco]

I'd bet money that the Pastor is a category 10 secret pervert behind closed doors. You don't make a career out of hanging out with hookers without some agenda that involves pussy.

He probably enjoys sniffing stolen hooker panties and wanking it to hidden mic videos of him doing the "lord's work" or something.

Also, isn't it considered "misogynist" to have some male Pastor come and "mansplain" why selling pussy is bad. I thought prostitution and being a whore was "empowering" now.

Why haven't feminists jumped on board crucifying this guy yet. Are they still trying to decide which direction to run with this.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-25-2015 04:34 PM)cowboy Wrote:  

P4P is more popular in the U.S. than most people want to admit and due to the trade being illegal the "upscale" girls make a fortune. Next time you are in a good lounge or club in NYC, Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago, etc. a few of the 7-10's in the venue will actually be girls who escort on the side (but will never admit it publicly). I have friends that have banged/dated girls who later found this out. One of my buddies dated a girl that was hot, college educated, normal "traditional" family upbringing, and he later found out she had been in the business. Like another poster stated, some of these girls are high end and make a ton of cash, probably get off on the taboo factor of the gig, and once again make a lot of money. They dress up, are nice to the guy (aren't bitches), and lay on their back and make money quick. The taboo factor shows how confused the U.S really is. Considering this nation has a decline of traditional values and religion, is business dominated, wants women to be financially free, logically you think there wouldn't be an issue. Especially in a country where "normal" girls are jumping on a different cock every week. Of course the ugly side consists of the possibility of drug abuse, pimps, other dangers, etc. However, like anything else, some girls will use to the money to attain a better quality of life while others will go into the gutter.

I have German friends who have said that countries with legalized prostitution have less rape and sex crimes but I have not personally seen the statistics. However, a Beta in Germany or Holland can pay a few Euros and bang a 10 and be sexually satisfied resulting in less frustration/anger. In countries that have legalized prostitution there is less trafficking, more oversight, and more health regulation resulting in a better environment than by just pushing everything underground into a dark, shadowy world. My years in Europe opened my eyes to different social methods. It also illustrated to me how behind and ignorant the US truly is.

I am not advocating that the world embrace P4P or substitute P4P for game. Game is about self improvement which is what I like about it. A beta totally relying on P4P is more of an addict. He might as well be an alcoholic or drug addict.

^^^
This.

I'm friends with some of the DC socialite/club crowd. These are the fashionistas that get their photos in the DC magazines by supporting charity events.

Back when Craig's List was a halfway decent place, I saw an ad in the "Women for Men" section, but it was sort of a covert ad for a prostitute. I wrote the woman, Googled her email, and found it was someone who was a veteran of the DC socialite scene -- and a respected one at that.

When I asked her if she worried her ad could be considered a front for prostitution, she wrote back "I prefer a traditional male/female arrangement" -- sort of a perverse interpretation of the husband/housewife scenario, except she finds rich guys to pay outright. Instead of serial monogamy it's like serial prostitution. Instead of paying by the night, guys have her as a kept woman for a given amount of time.

There's a thin line in some sections of society between "prostitute" and "girl friend." Not surprisingly, it seems to be the upper tier of society where this is going on.

[Pride male]

A wank a day keeps the hooker away.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-26-2015 09:16 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

^^^
This.

I'm friends with some of the DC socialite/club crowd. These are the fashionistas that get their photos in the DC magazines by supporting charity events.

Back when Craig's List was a halfway decent place, I saw an ad in the "Women for Men" section, but it was sort of a covert ad for a prostitute. I wrote the woman, Googled her email, and found it was someone who was a veteran of the DC socialite scene -- and a respected one at that.

When I asked her if she worried her ad could be considered a front for prostitution, she wrote back "I prefer a traditional male/female arrangement" -- sort of a perverse interpretation of the husband/housewife scenario, except she finds rich guys to pay outright. Instead of serial monogamy it's like serial prostitution. Instead of paying by the night, guys have her as a kept woman for a given amount of time.

There's a thin line in some sections of society between "prostitute" and "girl friend." Not surprisingly, it seems to be the upper tier of society where this is going on.

Whoa - that's pretty open, but on the other hand I met a few wives of very rich men, who were utterly uninterested in their husbands fucking guys left and right for fun, that some may go to the next level and just get the provisioning without the ring, which is more and more difficult to attain in our times.

[Tigre]

Quote:

Sex Workers Say A&E Show Lied To Them About Providing Resources And Protecting Their Privacy

Sex workers who were filmed for A&E’s 8 Minutes, which says it provides resources for women who want to get out of sex work, allege that the production lied to them. Three of them told BuzzFeed News that they wanted help getting out of sex work, and were never given any of the promised assistance. When reached, a representative for the network said the show is no longer on the air and, thus, they have no comment.

The premise of the reality series is that sex workers are contacted by pastor and former police officer Kevin Brown, who meets them in a hotel room posing as a client and then offers the women “resources” to get out of “the life.”

“This show, these people, it’s a disaster in my life,” said Kamylla, who spent weeks waiting for the promised assistance, quickly running out of money to support herself, her husband, and her children. They gave her a $200 fee and then did not follow through on promises of medical, dental, housing, and employment assistance, she told BuzzFeed News. “I kept on calling them, and nothing happened.”

Kamylla hesitated to put up another ad for her services because she thought she wouldn’t get help if she started doing sex work again; desperate for money, Kamylla said she put up an ad and was arrested shortly thereafter on prostitution charges.

“All I wanted was help, man. All I wanted was a way out. I gave them what they wanted, but they didn’t give me what I wanted,” Gina, who was featured on 8 Minutes’ April 2 premiere, told BuzzFeed News. She said she tried to get in contact with the production team for assistance getting a car and housing after she was filmed, but eventually gave up. “I’m not gonna beg people,” she said. “Y’all said you were gonna help.”

Like Kamylla, Gina said she stopped doing sex work in anticipation of financial assistance from the show, but “I didn’t get a fucking thing,” she added. Gina said she was given $400: $200 for appearing on the show, and $50 each for the four friends she brought in. “Can’t compare to what they’re making,” she said.

(article continues...)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/sex-...g-resourc#

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-07-2015 12:10 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

...
“This show, these people, it’s a disaster in my life,” said Kamylla, who spent weeks waiting for the promised assistance, quickly running out of money to support herself, her husband, and her children. They gave her a $200 fee and then did not follow through on promises of medical, dental, housing, and employment assistance, she told BuzzFeed News. “I kept on calling them, and nothing happened.”

Kamylla hesitated to put up another ad for her services because she thought she wouldn’t get help if she started doing sex work again; desperate for money, Kamylla said she put up an ad and was arrested shortly thereafter on prostitution charges.

..

[/quote]

Fucking bastards - but I am not surprised. 200$ for being outed on national TV for being a prostitute. They only went along because they thought they are going to get a couple grand, some preliminary help, maybe housing help etc.

Instead they got a measly 200$ and their faces plastered on TV for all their trouble.


Even the text is worded like a fake ad that they "may" have gotten all that - but of course they may not have gotten nothing.

Never trust the media and those White Knighting bastards.

I remember when the Eliott Spitzer affair came out that the guy actually helped 2 of those Russian girls to move to the UK, he helped them get a job and gave them decent cash. Sure - he fucked them well, but he let them also stay in his suite on his dime and then got them off safely. If you have some money and means you can aid girls easily to get out of abusive pimp relationships.

Most women are just in dire circumstances and it takes much more than 200$ and empty promises to get them a new life. I am certain that many of the women on the show were bottom-of-the-barrel and had plenty of other serious problems like drug abuse, stark poverty, no education, past their prime etc. It's one thing Eliott Spitzer helping hot but poor 18 year old 9s to find a new life in London, it's a completely different ball-game to aid a hooker down on her luck and beaten up by life.

What I despise more than White Knights is fake White Knights with empty promises.

[Island Souljah]

(04-26-2015 04:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 03:27 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

...

for the future, next time offer to be her pimp to send her to dubai to get defacated on by the oil sheiks.

Indeed - that's a good show.

"But first, I have to find out whether you are any good, since the sheiks have high standards. "
After two hours: "Still not convinced. Come back tomorrow. Hope you will try harder then."

But seriously - that entire show is just terrible White-Knightery.

They call the prostitutes/escorts victims or survivors - wtf?

While it is true that quite a few want to get out of the job, but stay because of the money, drugs, violent pimp Alpha bondage relationship, I seriously doubt that they are the majority.

BTW - I was never that kind of pimp. Essentially I was a dude who set up a site, got to know some older girls (26) who recruited younger ones (18-24), the girls came over stayed in my apartment, got fucked by me & my buddy (for free), visited the client and made 60% of the total profits. Then sometimes we even went out with the girls to night-clubs showing them the city. We stopped after some 8 months, because I did not like the feel of the whole biz - it is dark and sometimes the girls came back crying, although nothing really bad happened to them. The worst thing was a client getting angry and throwing her out of the apartment with the cash littered after her. Then you had to console her extra-hard (heh). The most violent pimp like thing we had to do was to throw out an older madam who got us some girls, but then began terrorizing the women - turned out she was an alcoholic with a BPD personality. Most of the men were terrible Betas/Omegas with very rare instances of wealthy Alphas who did not have time. One guy ordered a girl to fly to London, told her to come to a party he was hosting, but only had time to take her to a broom-closet, fuck her for 15 minutes and then told her that she was free to go (he paid her for a day + transport fees).

It was more or less professionally done - setting up a 40 page business plan and adhering to the steps. Also back then I had taken some late courses at university and had plenty of time for that. The money was fine - though not great, but the darkness of the business was all-permeating. After our silent partner died in a car accident drunk and on coke we took it as a sign from above to let it all go. We could have expanded it more into a big enterprise as according to the business plan, but then we might have encountered the darker elements, seen more shit, had to deal with the underworld at some level, smear the cops etc. When you are a small operator or a single girl offering pussy on Instagram you are essentially free like a bird even when covered in shit.

I am sure there are guys out there who would love to do that kind of thing and couldn't be more happy, but it wasn't for me.

But I can tell you that sponsorships or having sugar daddies are a different thing for those girls. Some even stated that those arrangements were their goals. Others rationalized it in their hamster-brains. While I was more Blue Pill back then I remember talking about those relationships as some kind of great thing. I guess it changes when women have one guy with whom they can bond more on an emotional level. Sometimes they even fall in love with those men if the guy is more Alpha in character.

So P4P has many slippery slopes on it - some sugar-daddies coming pretty close to husband territory or even crossing it if they can elicit some true sexual desire or emotional connection:

From Lover to Provider:
1. Alpha sport fuck
2. Fuck buddy
3. Harem member
4. R-selected boyfriend
5. K-selected boyfriend
6. Husband
7. Sugar Daddy
8. Prostitution

The London Daygamers have published a few articles on that topic.

Squares will never understand that there are women out there who's lives pimps actually upgrade by taking them in. I have never turned out a square, or underage girl, hooked a girl on drugs or pimped through physical intimidation. Squares just dont understand that some girls want to sell themselves and give their money to that dude.
I got out of the business because of the hours (night shift), the depressing nature of all of it, and the increasing law enforcement persecution of pimps as "sex traffickers" I had a friend get a 15 year federal bid under the Mann Act and this wasnt even a prostitute that he had transported across state lines, another pimp did and he got knocked by my partner Flight, when she got pinched the feds gave her the "we know your just a victim, where is your evil pimp?" rap and she gave him up. Pimping aint easy and nowadays the internet has caused most women to think they can just hoe independently, until they realize "renegades" dont last in the game for a reason.
Pimping aint dead, but AIDS, crack cocaine, and the internet has put the game on life support.

[WestIndianArchie]

(05-07-2015 02:28 PM)Island Souljah Wrote:  

. Pimping aint easy and nowadays the internet has caused most women to think they can just hoe independently, until they realize "renegades" dont last in the game for a reason.
Pimping aint dead, but AIDS, crack cocaine, and the internet has put the game on life support.

I'm all ears.

Drop some science.,

WIA

[Pride male]

Pimpin' is the world's second oldest profession.

[Mercenary]

So this is a

"Reality"

show huh ?

Anyone that ever talks about "saving" a woman as something positive and/or something that will bring you some kind of material or psychological benefit should be viewed with extreme suspicion. Such ideas can flat out destroy men who start to believe in (and act on) that shit.


Here's the bullshit hollywood fantasy from a really dangerous movie that brainwashed an entire generation in 1990:








...and here's the cold hard real reality of a (hate filled) sexless beta in 1976 trying to be "captain save a hoe":






Both "Pretty Woman" and "Taxi Driver" should be used as a instruction tools for the extreme dangers of blue pill thinking.

[GameNovice]

(04-25-2015 10:49 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

I'm ambivalent about prostitution...however are you saying that in your opinion it is a good move for a woman, as long as it's top end ho-ing? It seems you are but I'm just checking.

Any pretty, thin 18 year old can retire by her mid twenties if she simply got paid for her carrousel ride instead of getting railed by new dick every weekend for free, provided she live a somewhat frugal lifestyle.

If I were a fresh faced girl I would absolutely consider high end escorting, if at all possible get into the dominatrix niche.

[Latinopan]

From all the cases I have seen, guys white knight like this do it to fuck the women themselves, there are many cases of "pro women" men working at women shelters that later try to fuck the women staying on it, and there are many cases of men in anti-prostitution and anti-human trafficking NGOs that are running trafficking business themselves and pimping the women. NO different from Hugo Schwyzer who was a feminists professor because it allows him to fuck his young students in college.

[PolymathGuru]

Why is there a reality television show about saving prostitutes but there isn't a television show about saving men from modern marriages?