[almohajem]

This is my first time dealing with +7 material. The girl is 9.5 or 10. She has great skin, boobs and face. She put lots of sexy photos on her facebook page. I hit her through foursquare as we went to a similar event and we chatted for a while and she seemed very responsive. I asked her out, and she said she can be available in the middle of the week.

Now my questions:

- How do I get back to her? Should I ask her out today/tomorrow?
- Should I get more intimate on text with her? Like show little jealousy, or ask her what she is doing, where she went....
- Should I instead talk to her over phone.

I'm a little bit intimidated and perplexed. I'm afraid I do a wrong move and it makes me lose the opportunity. Should I proceed as usual? Are there any specific hints for higher level women?

ps: she apparently come from a wealthy family.

[456]

Treat her like a 6.5.

Have no fear of losing her.

[GlockTrigga]

Treat her as a second priority in life. She is probably used to being coddled and wooed etc. If she doesn't have a big ego don't be a big asshole. The bigger her ego the bigger the asshole you should be. But don't be too nice.

Err on the side of being more rough around the edges (ambiguous regarding things she says you don't care about, aloof when she says she won't be available, confident that YOU are the prize) than being courteous, prompt and sincere. Since she is Rich do not buy her anything.

[456]

^^ agreed. "Ambiguity" game is kind of interesting... I notice a lot of girls / "cool" guys effortlessly ignore things that are ambiguous, and effortlessly say things that are somewhat ambiguous.

Uptight / nerdier / less cool folks tend to want to clarify, seek clarification, and "make sure they know what {I|they} meant." They also tend to ask more follow-up questions that are a bit too attentive.

Subject for another day (or post) -- but this definitely applies with a girl you perceive as "better than usual." Resist the urge to "communicate more clearly" or do any of the above.

[almohajem]

I have another problem. I'm a bit intimidated by her looks + riches. Any ideas to overcome that?

ps: in yesterday chat, I told her that I'll reach her out again tomorrow (today). if I don't, is it a plus or a minus for me?

[456]

I don't think there's anything wrong with reaching out when you said you would, if it's indeed necessary to secure the plan.

Most girls (especially hotter ones) want you to lead and make it easy: tell her where you'll be meeting, when, etc. Don't leave that part ambiguous.

Re: your intimidation, you just have to "act as if": you always get with hot girls, it's nothing new, she's not even that hot [focus on any flaw she may have], she hasn't proven ANYTHING yet about really being a good person, etc. You have to psyche yourself out of being intimidated. You know the moment when you escalate "too far" with a [regular for you] girl, and magically it just works? The same thing happens with hotter ones. Do not "tread carefully."

Lots of repetition of ideas expressed elsewhere, but I understand you need to hear it a bit.

[kaotic]

I agree with the rest of the posters.

You're psyching yourself out and putting yourself through the wringer.....all for a girl.

Take her off the pedestal and game her accordingly.

Don't treat her like "omfg she's a smokeshow, I'd do anything for her !"

[almohajem]

I'm all in. Will report back. have a 6 secured under my belt, so not playing on dry mode.

[OregonToSoCal]

I co-sign what the others have said. I still panic when communicating with an 8+ and think that I need to lock her down asap since her perceived value is so high and I'm afraid I'll lose her by waiting too long. But I'm learning it's just the opposite. It's with their quality women that I need to be extra chill, not make them a priority and treat them like a 5 since their neediness radar is especially sensitive from all of the beta orbiters hitting them up daily.

[WestIndianArchie]

Being intimidated is normal. That shit's to be expected, even as a vet. At this point in my career, i've banged a lot of bitches that dudes wish was in their stable - but every once in a while, I'll run across some top flight shit that got me stammering for an opening.

That being said, rather than bring that bitch down and think of her as a 5 - you need to bring yourself up. She might be a 9.5, but to her, you're an 11.

If a top shelf bitch is giving YOU attention, it's clear that you're a top shelf dude.

Think about what girls look for
- more social
- cooler
- taller
- stronger
- richer
- smarter
- funnier

Whatever bitch you sink your dick into, not only is she beneath you objectively, but she thinks so as well. She thinks she CAME UP. Like haha, "this dumb mf'er is about to make me cum, even though he could have someone better than me."

Lotta cats think their competition is with other guys. Naw B.
Your competition is primarily internal. Your unconscious mind is not giving you permission to do the shit that you want to.

With respect to her, most fine ass bitches can have whatever objective thing you can think of.

She want's a tall guy, she can have a tall guy.
She want's rich, she can have rich.
She want's a guy with a porno size dick, he's already in her speed dial.
She want's a pretty boy, they don't stop talking to her.

In 2015, even fat bitches can get that. FAT BITCHES! Think about that my G. A chick that's been dogged her whole life can take a pic showing off them carb loaded titties and suddenly all manner of guys want to take her out, show her the town. Even ugly bitches are getting picky.

With all that choice, all those options, even the best of the best becomes banal and boring to a top flight chick. She hears so much noise, she longs to hear signal.

So if a fine ass bitch gives you the time of day, SHE'S THE LUCKY ONE.
She finally found a dude that can excite her in ways that she can't articulate.

Trying to talk a bitch down in your mind, that's Game 101. That's for dudes that have been shit on their entire lives. They have to "demonstrate high value". A dude ain't doing that shit for her benefit, he does it for himself.

It's important to go through Game 101, a seduction bootcamp. Stressing about what you're gonna wear, when and how often to text, whether she wants to add you as a Facebook friend. 101 is some of the best time of your game career. Shit is new and sweet. Might be frustrating, but you get that first # from a cold approach, that first make out on the dance floor, that first hand job in the parking lot, your first one night stand - it's nothing but bliss.

All these games, routines, working out, gear - it has some external value - it does work - but the real value is what it does to you and your mind.

You buy that 1,000 suit, fits nice, in style, good color - that shit makes you feel like a million bucks. Some floozy touches your cashmere/silk blend, and you're like "bitch get up off me"

I am somebody.
I am worth something.

That sniveling bastard that spent his Friday nights online or lamenting with friends...He's stepped to the side.

Once you're in this game for real - you start to see how
- self conscious these bitches are
- their facades

and you'll also realize your own worth.

If there's ever a game secret... it is that one.

I might not be "fat" but I got a gut for a relatively skinny dude. Hell sometimes a broad won't see my shine cause I'm not polished all the time.

I know I can talk to a bitch and take her on a mental trip that no dude has ever taken her on. The bitch that gets to chat with me is lucky as shit. No one else is going to talk to her and expand her mind like I will. No one makes her feel smart, dumb, sexy, ugly, happy, sad like I will.

This is not some magical shit I refer to either. This ain't Michael Jordan/Warren Buffet shit - it's accessible shit, it's a mindset, it's a willingness to take YOURSELF seriously.

Suddenly having the perfect comeback to "Where are your friends" "Aren't you a little old" "Is that you're pick up line" - becomes stupid and pointless.

You start to see her antics for what they are.
She's afraid.

And you are not.

WIA

[brick tamland]

"The girl is 9.5 or 10."

Pictures...

[blacknwhitespade]

(03-30-2015 01:19 PM)almohajem Wrote:  

This is my first time dealing with +7 material. The girl is 9.5 or 10. She has great skin, boobs and face. She put lots of sexy photos on her facebook page. I hit her through foursquare as we went to a similar event and we chatted for a while and she seemed very responsive. I asked her out, and she said she can be available in the middle of the week.

Now my questions:

- How do I get back to her? Should I ask her out today/tomorrow?
- Should I get more intimate on text with her? Like show little jealousy, or ask her what she is doing, where she went....
- Should I instead talk to her over phone.

I'm a little bit intimidated and perplexed. I'm afraid I do a wrong move and it makes me lose the opportunity. Should I proceed as usual? Are there any specific hints for higher level women?

ps: she apparently come from a wealthy family.

[almohajem]

pics for WIA if he wants to (thanks to his comment ). I don't want to expose the privacy of people.

otherwise, i asked her for her phone number and got it. told her to expect a call from me sometime. will update if we had a date setup.

[topdog]

WIA's post is golden, I particularly liked:

"She hears so much noise, she longs to hear signal."

To OP: Don't hesitate, schedule a date ASAP. Strike when the iron is hot. And call her, don't text her like the rest of her orbiters do.

[Nascimento]

Dropping nuggets all over the place..

If you didn't see post #10 for what it's worth, come back in a year after doing time in the game trenches.

[coverdoc]

(03-30-2015 10:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Being intimidated is normal. That shit's to be expected, even as a vet. At this point in my career, i've banged a lot of bitches that dudes wish was in their stable - but every once in a while, I'll run across some top flight shit that got me stammering for an opening.
.........................
You start to see her antics for what they are.
She's afraid.

And you are not.

WIA

Jesus christ,

The forum has been dropping some knowledge today.

-CD

[almohajem]

she didn't answer the phone, and on fb she replied with "lots of stuff this week". I answered with "ok". next.

[freshcream]

WIA.

That post was some mind blowing stuff. I think that one post cleared all my AA. It just might have.

[Redwood]

wia wins the thread again. love the fact that he's giving us earth lessons.

[Mofasa]

Holy shit. WIA. Pure gold. thank you sir

[topdog]

"she didn't answer the phone, and on fb she replied with "lots of stuff this week". I answered with "ok". next."

Let it rest for a week or two, then retry. The best days to meet for a first date are Tuesdays and Thursdays. Little goes on on these days, and it is less expected the date will last too long.

Hit her with a date proposal, and if she replies with the same shit, respond with this to call her out:
"Look, if you want this to work, I know you will find a way." (h/t GLL)

If she apologizes, use it to get a date. If not, move on.

[Cobra]

@WIA

Approaching 9+ requires balls yes, but more importantly, it requires solid frame.

I can say I haven't been with one but have approached them.

If you tell me to approach a 9, I will, no question about it. But will I do it in a way that I'm satisfied? Questionable.

These approaches give you a window to your frame once you think about it. Balls become secondary.

[Nascimento]

Bumping for others to see post #10.

[Noir]

(03-30-2015 10:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I know I can talk to a bitch and take her on a mental trip that no dude has ever taken her on. The bitch that gets to chat with me is lucky as shit. No one else is going to talk to her and expand her mind like I will. No one makes her feel smart, dumb, sexy, ugly, happy, sad like I will.

Game summarized, shut the forum down.

[Quizzical_2]

That was literal gold. That's amazing advice, if not the best advice I've ever seen.