Quote: (03-29-2015 08:50 AM)Agreddor Wrote:
How do you deal with 18 year olds who wont leave their group of friends?
hate to dish out the tough love but,
1) read the post
2) think about what was said
In the initial post
"The RSD/Boomerrang approach - Talk to every set for 2-5 minutes, get phone #'s and get the logistics for every girl. You'll know quickly if you have some chemistry with a chick. You'll also know fairly quickly if she lives by herself around the corner....
After working the room, pick one chick - hottest? most in to you?
best logistics? - and focus on her. Call all the other ones the next day."
A girl with hater friends is NOT THE BEST LOGISTICS.
So if you're a newb, you don't concentrate your time and effort on a case that you can't handle.
But how would you handle that case?
There's really not enough information provided to tell you how to manage a group of 18-19 year old girls in a night game situation.
HSLD gives the proper advice for barely described situation, get the # and bounce.
Years in the club game have told me that even if you manage to get the #, it's unlikely to convert into a date if you don't have the game behind it.
The two groups of chicks most likely to flake
- super young girls (18-21) that you meet online
- super young girls (18-21) that you meet in night game
2015 Game technology basically says that you need to have really good "beta/chump/norm" game - i.e. the conventional attraction markers, that we now term lifestyle game or in my case passive game.
Succinctly, for that # to not flake, you have to be
- tall
- attractive
- cut/ripped/jacked/built
- well dressed
- outgoing, commanding, take charge
- maybe rich? (flashy) maybe somewhat famous? (local celeb, the guy) maybe in a power situation? (bartender)
That's the thought process at least. But chicks get a charge out of rejecting high status/high SMV men. I read about it all the time. Salt from Salt n Pepa recently said that she should have let Will Smith date her. I digress.
Pretty much everything that you can learn by watching TV and observing who chicks dig.
There's nothing secret about that shit.
Everyone does it, or aims for it.
And if you're talking about a chick online, there are dozens of "hot" guys vying for her attention.
In the offline situation, the situation is much better, in that you have her attention.
How good is that attention?
Her group is pulling her away, and she's typically drunk or high. Even when she's not mind altered, she's young and hot and undependable.
When she is sober, she flakes on her family, friends, school, and work.
She even flakes on herself.
Hers is a charmed life where she just follows anything shiny that catches her eyes.
She's easily lead and mislead. Which is why there's so much social prohibition about young chicks.
If you were to isolate her from the group, work your magic, you wouldn't need the #. You'd physically escalate until the bang. Be it in the club itself, out back behind the dumpster, or in the parking lot in your Hyundai. (this is more difficult than I suggest her, but infinitely easier than trying to send a Hail Mary text hoping that results in a meet)
If you're new to the game, you can't "con the group". You're just getting used to dealing with a set of 2 girls and or a set of 3-4 girls. You aren't approaching huge groups, hen parties, or mixed groups when you start out.
If you're an intermediate, you have to get the ring leader to follow you, she in turns get everyone else to follow. Typically you need to promise an afterparty, and nowadays that means more than a few bottles of jack and Malibu at your flat - but more like cool people, weed, and drugs.
You - "Yo, I got some dope shit at the crib, plus some other folks are coming through"
Your girl - "Sounds great"
The leader of the pack - "Naw we've got things to do tomorrow, Caitlin you're coming with us"
You - "Yo leader, what kinda lame shit you guys gonna do. Watch Catfish and then go to sleep, eating Ben and Jerry's....
- call the leader out
- promise and bring some shit to the table in terms of an after party
- isolate your target at home, while the group is occupied
This all goes back to your mindset, experience, confidence, and all that hard to describe stuff that goes on within your mind.
It's definitely not for newbs, much less introverted newbs.
But like I said above, you're always thinking about logistics.
How hard will this pull be?
Assuming that I can attract this girl, what else stands in my way from making it happen?
You don't need to memorize much content, but you do need to start thinking critically about the situation.
WIA