[Saladin]

Do you guys have much experience with opening up larger groups of 4-5 people?

I have been trying out something new with somewhat larger mixed groups in the mall. A few days ago I saw this stunning blonde so I went up to her group of 5(with two guys) and told her she was really cute and I wanted to meet her. She responded really well and her friends were stunned. Unfortunately I ejected because I was so surprised at the whole situation, I basically shot myself in the foot.

So I saw a group of 4-5 girls today and I saw this really cute black girl and approached her. Her friends again waited for her but she said she had to go so I took her phone number and waved at her friends to show friendliness to them.

So the advantages of this sort of this approach is that it creates massive attraction from the girl because of the difficulty of the approach. It also stuns the other people in the group who seem to keep walking for a bit and then just watch. The disadvantage is that the girl you're talking to might feel pressured to go join her friends. Quite frankly, a 30 second-1 minute conversation and then phone close doesn't make it seem like a girl would have any incentive to go on a day 2.

Do you guys have any suggestions for these kindoff large groups in the daytime? I didn't have my friends with my so I had to go in alone. Any good strategies for situations like these?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I am unable to offer any advice, except for maybe still trying to get the number - while most will fail, that's life, especially in such difficult situations. I do commend your courage in being able to approach groups (particularly mixed groups) though.

[Gmac]

Here's how I handle these. I'll use a situational opener on the most 'approachable' person in the group followed by, "so how do you all know each other?" Usually by then they'll have said something I can transition into a story or comment with. I avoid talking to the entire group at once if I can avoid it, because you can open yourself up to getting shut down or cock blocked much faster.

[Chad Daring]

I opened a group of 6 girls last night when they ordered champagne at a dive bar and ended up drinking it from plastic cups. Verbatim what I said

"Wait, are you guys drinking champagne from plastics cups? Thats fucking classy!"

They all laughed and I was instantly in.

[FretDancer]

Mad props for having the balls for those kind of approaches.

Basically you gotta find a way to engage the whole group with something good, after you're 'in' you can spend time chatting the group members individually, getting to know them. Make your way through each of them and make sure you DHV to the girls specially, just be attractive. When the group feels confident with you, isolation will be easier with your desired target. If you think that the group thought you were cool, fun and interesting, just ask if you can join them for whatever they are doing and also throwing a little time constraint to show that you got other stuff to do as well, when leaving be sure to close as much people from the group as you can.

[Saladin]

(05-16-2011 12:07 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  

Mad props for having the balls for those kind of approaches.

Basically you gotta find a way to engage the whole group with something good, after you're 'in' you can spend time chatting the group members individually, getting to know them. Make your way through each of them and make sure you DHV to the girls specially, just be attractive. When the group feels confident with you, isolation will be easier with your desired target. If you think that the group thought you were cool, fun and interesting, just ask if you can join them for whatever they are doing and also throwing a little time constraint to show that you got other stuff to do as well, when leaving be sure to close as much people from the group as you can.

Thanks for the tips. I'll try this if the group isn't in motion and I can talk to all of them. I don't know how well it would work with a group thats in motion but I'll give it a try nonetheless.

This isn't as ballsy as my friend, he approached a bachelorate group of 15 or 16 girls by walking into the middle of their circle and telling them "Thanks for waiting for me". Probably the most ballsy approach I've ever seen.

[Chad Daring]

Make sure make sure MAKE SURE you engage a girls friends. I blew it thrice this past weekend because I didn't do this. Granted two of the times the situation wasnt 100% in my control, but I could've done more. You want to let your target know you're interested in her, but talk to everyone.

[FretDancer]

(05-16-2011 07:26 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Make sure make sure MAKE SURE you engage a girls friends. I blew it thrice this past weekend because I didn't do this. Granted two of the times the situation wasnt 100% in my control, but I could've done more. You want to let your target know you're interested in her, but talk to everyone.

True, you might want to open a chick in the group thats not your target, or a dude.


With groups in motion it gets more difficult, as there is already some sort of time constraint frame from their behalf. Approaching these will trigger a kind of "waiting for you to finish whatever you're doing" vibe, which can add pressure to you and to the group.

[Chad Daring]

If a girl starts introducing you to her group, how would you take this? My reaction is that she likes you enough that she WANTS the approval of her friends so she's going out of her way to get it. Though I'm hesitant to believe it because women are rarely that rational.

[K-man]

I have had mixed success approaching large groups. If it's at a club I find it harder to approach, especially if they are sitted down.
There is a reason they went out with 8 other girlfriends, and it's not to get picked up (they would be in pairs in that case). Usually it's some personal celebration, birthday, bachelorette, girls-night-out-away-from-their-boyfriends, etc. and you are just another dude trying to break into their circle where you don't belong.

However, at the beach I have found it pretty easy - just walk around with a volley ball and if you ask a group of 4-5 girls if they want to join for a quick game of beach volley, there are usually 1-2 that are eager to join. If they don't play, you ask what they do for fun, where they are going that night, etc.

[Screwston]

I don't have the balls to approach groups unless I'm drunk. I just can't do it