[jbird669]

(02-23-2015 09:03 AM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Game adjustments for different age brackets (domestic and international)...
18-20, 20-25, 25-30, 30-40, 40+

I second this.

[DannyAlberta]

a couple of ideas:

1) how the americanization of certain foreign countries is changing game (a topic of some of your more recent posts);

2) how the concept of game has changed from an option to improve oneself and one's chances with girls to a seemingly absolute necessity if one wants to get laid at all (and related to that the continuing changing power dynamic that seems to favour women and their ever increasing and entitled expectations of a man); and

3) your experiences on the evolution of game from your first edition into what you now call "being an amusing clown".

[OGNorCal707]

Some info for guys 30+ who want to game girls in the 18-22 range here in the U.S. Also I know you're probably not too into Tinder, but maybe a Tinder guide similar to the text message guide you released a couple years ago. I liked how in the original Bang you discussed the proper "vibe", maybe go deeper into how to cultivate the right "vibe" in regards to banging and seducing women. Going off what Deluge suggested, I think it would be amazing if you could break down how gaming 8+ women is different, and what kind of approach and game specifically to use on these upper echelon women. Looking forward to this... Will cop a copy as soon as it hits amazon.

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Assuming that it sticks to a focus on nightgame ...

1) A greater focus/exposition on setting up logistics, venue selection, what specifically makes any given venue better than another one, etc.

2) Updated text game script. I'm starting to think that logistics-only texts are getting passed by due to clown game being necessary for texts as well as chicks demand ever-shinier "toys," so to speak.

3) A greater focus on clown game in general, as it seems that the conversation-focused structure of Bang for the Opening and Attraction phases (at least in the West/Anglosphere) is becoming more and more outdated.

4) A deeper explanation of how to build attraction + comfort on dates. Things like routines, specific topics of discussion, etc.

5) Updated date progression model. It should formalize and include the First-Date Recipe (Tuthmosis) and update the progression queue to current forum best practices. (Which I think at this point is drinks at date 1, home dinner at date 2, and club at date 3, though I could be wrong.) Maybe throw in the Zero Date Bang model (BlurredSevens) for added benefit as some sort of an annex.

HSLD

[Travesty]

First off, thank you for putting in the effort to write this new book on Game. It may be an old subject for you to write on again, it will enrich many lives though.

A chapter on quality and preservation which I think brings the most value especially as guys age and is very evergreen. Bang still holds up for getting SNL's and date bangs.

How to attract, get, and hold 7.5+ girls aged 18-24 (before they spoil as in your latest blog post) for a few months of banging with the option to go further.

This may include:

• Types of openers that work best on more attractive women
• The kind of ramble, bait, or teasing that is needed
• Specific body language tips when first interacting
• How hard to push / pull
• The different broad categories of high quality women traits you can expect
• How to proceed after the first bang to keep her interest
  

Listing practical steps and requirements as far dress, language skills, local knowledge, local circles, $, apartment, body etc... that go beyond banging slutty 6's.

Some sort of table, chart, or graph that shows in raw numbers based on your attraction level in a culture on average how much effort (approaches to number farming to dates to bang ratio) you can expect to put in to have success with these sorts of women.

[Roosh]

Great suggestions so far, and I do have many of them already outlined.

(02-23-2015 10:14 AM)Irish Wrote:  

Any interest on visiting SE Asia? Would be interesting to read a 'Bang Asia' and get your take how it compares and contrasts to your extended time in EE

None. The more that time passes, the more I'm certain I don't want to spend much time there.

(02-23-2015 11:53 AM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  

I get that your world is now very Eastern. And indeed, that may be the best place to be. Nonetheless, your target audience remains mostly Western, I presume, and no matter the exhortations, unlikely to actually travel to honest-to-god possy paradises. Therefore, you may want to consider keeping in mind the crowd that is stuck here in the Anglosphere, like it or not. I know you've returned Stateside now and then; any successor to 'Bang' should piggyback off the experience you've gained here.

Yes the book won't be "Just go to Eastern Europe." I will explain different styles of games and modifications you must make when talking to Western vs traditional girls.

Scorpion's post is close to describing how it will turn out.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(02-23-2015 09:03 AM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Game adjustments for different age brackets (domestic and international)...
18-20, 20-25, 25-30, 30-40, 40+

Especially old man's game, into the late 40's, 50's and beyond. A lot of younger guys think they'll just have to settle down when they hit that age. I think I've seen you write a number of things to this effect, as far as what you expect when you get older. However, many guys find themselves at this age, and not wanting to settle down.
I know there are guys at this age still pulling 18-25 year olds, like Richard Branson and George Clooney, but average guys in this age range probably can't pull like this.
I am not a game denialist. I think genetically average guys age 25-35 can improve themselves with gym, lifestyle, and learned game, to pull attractive young women. So my question is, what can genetically average older men do to optimize their sexual options? Perhaps the goal is for average men in their 50's to pull plain chicks in the 18-25 range. Maybe average men really can still aspire to hot young women. Perhaps they should focus on wall survivors in their late 20's and 30's.

I'd like to see all of this broken down the way younger man's game has been.

[Bacchus]

I'd like to see an expansion on this post:

http://www.rooshv.com/women-are-experts-...-mens-time

Time management doesn't get enough attention. But it is an unavoidable part of the game, and there are steps to minimize your exposure. So I'd like to see some material about that. What are the signs that a girl is going to waste your time when you meet her at a bar? Or when you're on a date? How soon can you tell that a girl is wasting your time? Etc.

[Irish]

(02-23-2015 05:37 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(02-23-2015 10:14 AM)Irish Wrote:  

Any interest on visiting SE Asia? Would be interesting to read a 'Bang Asia' and get your take how it compares and contrasts to your extended time in EE

None. The more that time passes, the more I'm certain I don't want to spend much time there.

I don't want to derail but any reason in particular you aren't keen on Asia? Just don't fancy Asian girls or is it a case of starting to get tired of travelling around in general and looking to settle in one place as you get older?

[-g-]

Long distance game.

For example I met a chick that lives 2 hours from me and I'm keeping her as a side chick. So next time I'm in dc (2 weeks from now) I have a place to stay and a bang. Chatting once or twice a week and making her invest by sending pics is important. I'm sure you have experience with this in your European travels.

The initial pick up lines in your book are killer. The so let me guess and the you look like you're have fun, have proven invaluable. Anything extra regarding this is invaluable.

I look forward to the new book!

[Yeti]

Anything more you can add to:

- sniper game
- game for introverts (standing out to girls for guys who do not play clown game very well)
- passive, low-energy game

[Switch]

Using social media game. The young (~18 years old) guys I know in real life who get laid the most are definitely the most 'skilled' at using social media.

Advanced texting guide, something that goes way beyond logistics. I also believe this is necessary to bed younger girls.

[Brodiaga]

General advice about the logistics of traveling to meet girls, particularly for less experienced guys:

-How to choose a country, city, neighborhood and a place to stay
-How to find good local clubs for night game and spots for day game
-How to pipeline in advance.
-How to schedule dates efficiently and minimize time spent on scheduling, avoid spending half of your vacation spamming girls on dating sites and swiping on Tinder.
-How to screen girls and what types of girls to avoid, particularly if you only have a few days
-How to change your game if you are only in town for a few days: e.g. more persistence, more emphasis on night game, avoid getting numbers and just go for SNL/SDL, etc.
-How to enjoy your vacation even if you don't get a lot of bangs or no bangs at all. Balance between chasing girls and regular tourist stuff - sightseeing, etc.

[Parlay44]

Gaming with a wing. Swapping roles between Alpha and wing.

Gaming groups of women while rolling dolo.

Gaming women as a pack of men.

Tactics to avoid getting milked for money or drinks.

Getting into fights.

[swuglyfe]

(02-23-2015 08:58 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

General advice about the logistics of traveling to meet girls, particularly for less experienced guys:

-How to choose a country, city, neighborhood and a place to stay
-How to find good local clubs for night game and spots for day game
-How to pipeline in advance.
-How to schedule dates efficiently and minimize time spent on scheduling, avoid spending half of your vacation spamming girls on dating sites and swiping on Tinder.
-How to screen girls and what types of girls to avoid, particularly if you only have a few days
-How to change your game if you are only in town for a few days: e.g. more persistence, more emphasis on night game, avoid getting numbers and just go for SNL/SDL, etc.
-How to enjoy your vacation even if you don't get a lot of bangs or no bangs at all. Balance between chasing girls and regular tourist stuff - sightseeing, etc.

^This. I find myself often now travelling to different places and only being there for a couple days. Pipelining in advance and maintaining good game while knowing you can't be there for a few more days is critical.

I also second the need for more vibe explanation. I'm working hard on improving confidence and style, but now it's the part that's non-superficial that needs work.

[Midas]

(02-23-2015 08:54 AM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  

College campus game, for non-students. Although I realize your personal experience does not lie there, I have found colleges to be poosy goldmines--one of the few remaining here in the USA.

What he said ^

[WestIndianArchie]

You could pretty much update the original in light of new technology and sociological trends.

I'm wondering how you run top notch game in an entirely different language.

WIA

[8ball]

(02-23-2015 12:09 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

...You would need to address ways to overcome many of the challenges that have emerged over the past few years:

- Smartphone addictions
- Social media attention whoring
- Greatly reduced quality of nightlife
- Women becoming more socially awkward/closed off to approaches

Basically, I would synthesize the experience you've gained over the past several years and apply that onto a generic template for meeting a girl, going on a date(s) and securing the bang, while accounting for the new challenges I just outlined (and I'm sure you will think of more that I left out).

Well this would be great. There is only one problem. Roosh has been in EE for the past couple of years and the challenges you listed apply more to the west. I am not saying this doesn't effect poland/ukraine but i am not sure how much instagram/vine/snapchat addicts there are in those places.

If the next Bang has practical solutions on how deal with those challenges and they actually work(even in the anglosphere) then it could be a best seller.

[simondice]

Screening

[swuglyfe]

I agree with WIA, scorpion, 8ball and others. Propping up a conversation after initial approach or on a first dare pretty much on your own is becoming a more important part of game because girls are slowly becoming more and more socially retarded and glowing screen dependent.

I don't think you should turn it into some pseudo science book, but also tips on psychological tricks you can use to establish dominant frame in the first encounter: Telling a girl to watch your stuff, taking her phone, etc.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Roosh, do you think you're still qualified to talk about how to seduce modern western girls, since you haven't done it in so long? (At least, as much as you've talked about on your page.)
I was under the impression that you'd more or less written them off entirely and devoted yourself to EE chicks.

[runsonmagic]

How to game if you are "known" and run the risk of women sharing bad cold approaches on social media if they find out who you are. How to guard your reputation in an age where false rape cases go national. Also, what Scorpion said, seconded.

[OBJ Snakebite]

Reading Bang, I found myself jumping from one chapter to another for prior reference, as it was not very linear. I think a clean-up is needed, presentation of topics, and maybe a chapter at the very end that ties everything together.
Maybe a "cheat sheet" at the end with condensed game theory. Or most important things.

I liked your diagram on page 90 in Day Bang. Maybe something similar for this new edition.

[Roosh]

(02-25-2015 08:49 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Roosh, do you think you're still qualified to talk about how to seduce modern western girls, since you haven't done it in so long? (At least, as much as you've talked about on your page.)
I was under the impression that you'd more or less written them off entirely and devoted yourself to EE chicks.

While I'm not on top of the trends that come and go, particularly with internet game, I don't know a man who understand the mentality of Western women more than myself and what drives their behavior. I also do a "check" of my game when I visit home every now and then. The environment is degrading but the game to get laid is similar to what's in Bang.