[Roosh]

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I do hope that the respective guys can come to terms, since you don't want to end up in a place where saying: "I like Krauser's works and find them useful." can get you banned instantly.

I'm referring to promotion of their products and also threads that are focused exclusively on them or their work. Posting something along the lines of "Krauser says this" in a general game thread won't get you warned or banned.

[The Beast1]

The racial hate is toxic to the mind. I have to be mindful of it because I too fall prey to it when i'm in a foul mood.

Don't let it get to you.

[Moma]

I clicked 'like' on Krauser's post for being frank even if I didn't agree with some of his opinions. I respected the post for its honesty because that gives a chance for discussion and one can find out why the person has that opinion. That's far better than the person who is totally cool with everything but you find their actions incongruous with what they proclaim. I've found this to be the case with people in real life (not from the forum). That's what they are though, opinions. And they were in the unpopular opinion thread. Given the various backgrounds of us all, it's impossible for us to be in accordance with every single viewpoint.
However, since this forum is not my sole form of income/livelihood, I didn't see the inbetween the lines digs (and often don't). I didn't realise that the Krauser post was that deep. I didn't even know he was talking about the forum per se. I thought he just met a ton of PUA guys in London and America who were just waffling fraff and he felt the need to vent. The PUA culture is huge and there are PUAs everywhere. I met a lizard three years ago who asked me out of the blue if I had read the game by Neil Strauss. I was taken aback. I also saw it on one of the best seller shelves in the Indigos at Yonge and Eglinton. This means there are thousands of PUA guys maybe many hawking products and services etc.

I personally just take the forum lightly, try to help people to the best of my ability and inject humour when I can. Some posts sometimes make me wanna somersault but I just remember it's the net and I chuckle instead.

[Kamikaze]

I am one of the people Krauser profited off of when I bought his Daygame Mastery book. I respect the work of dudes who put in an insane amount of hours and are able to distill such complicated subjects down to actionable advice, so paying for content, especially when I have the means, is not a big deal to me. Is it worth $100? Meh. If you have some cash, sure.

One note though. There is no denying there's good advice in the book. What I can't really say is that it's all that innovative. Additionally, and more importantly, I notice that an important schtick to Krauser's game is essentially playing tour guide to foreign tourists who have the time and means to lollygag around London in the day time. In his meltdown here, he says the great majority of dudes punching above their weight consistently are fronting something else, including micro-fame, money, SEA, a donkey dick or whatever. I'll posit that Krauser recommends some critical advice that is generally only applicable in top-tier cities. He is leveraging his surroundings, which isn't a bad thing. But I can personally vouch for players where they are the show, not the city. I get the feeling that the show for Krauser can often be his beloved London... which renders some of his advice not exactly actionable to people living outside a city with a constant influx of tourists.

To piggyback on his racist rant, and going off what I just said as him leveraging his world-class city... Londoners are some of the most smug, condescending, secretly arrogant people on the planet, men or women. It's no surprise he likes Argentineans, who also happen to be the most arrogant and whitest people in Latin America, go figure. Londoners hide behind their faux-politeness and pseudo-progressiveness, but plant a Londoner in some "garbage" second-tier city and they won't shut the fuck up about how great London is. They are also secretly as vapid and sometimes ignorant as those lowly Americans Krauser complains about; Londoners are merely better at hiding it. Thoroughly unsurprised to read "black people [are] not capable of getting by in white man's civilisation" from a dude like him.

For the record, I like London a lot, and other big cities, mostly because of the amazing opportunities concentrated in one accessible place. I also like their stupid accents. Londoners in general, though, are more often guilty of being born on third base and thinking they hit a home run.

On second thought, $100 is way too much, especially for a racist-ass motherfucker like Krauser. I'll give him this: it's a neat collection of non-innovative tidbits in one expensive and unwieldy book, with big fonts, wide margins, and stupid drawings to stretch a 200 pager to 400+. But if you can stand a bit of disorganization, Roissy and this very forum can give you better, more actionable, more wide-ranging advice from multiple real innovators, for free.

[Phoenix]

(02-21-2015 06:36 PM)LonerWithABoner Wrote:  

1. It wasn't a "rant". It was a list of his unpopular opinions, hidden away deep in a thread called "Post your Unpopular Opinions".

LOL there is also this thread: http://www.rooshvforum.network/archive/index...3383.html.

The name of the thread is not 'Post your Unpopular Opinions and the Rules are Suspended signed Roosh Himself'. Otherwise you'd have trolls in there saying "I hate Roosh so much" and Roosh would be saying "oh OK I don't like that opinion so carry on".

It was a straight-up rant including white-mans-burden shit, and was clearly in violation of the 'no race X is superior to race Y talk' rule.

[speakeasy]

I really had no idea krauser was on that heartiste tip. That kinda took me by surprise.

[Brian Shima]

(02-21-2015 05:47 PM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

I can't believe so many people liked the rant linked in Roosh's first sentence above.

I'm not surprised

[Old Fritz]

There was a lot he had to say in his rant I liked his post because there were a few key things that I agreed with. However, this does not mean I liked every single thing he wrote. An example being the quasi storm front elements; especially since I am black.

What's important to note is that this likely applies to others that liked his post. There may be some things he said that they agree with but not the entire post.

Just wanted to make a note on that.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Krauser just tweeted:

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Is this a good time to mention at my last event (£25 for 6 hours), the 6 students were: French, Spanish, Indian (x2), Pakistani, African?

I responded:

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Or put in Krauser-rant-talk: fag, lazy, low SMV (2x), needs to be nuked, impulsive child. Hope you told them right away - heh.

To be honest we should of course be careful when using words, but we should also as 'sphere men look beyond the PC talk and observe how someone truly behaves.

Krauser has unfortunately swallowed too much of the hard Libertarian faux doctrine which is utterly inhuman and was created by the Rockefellers to lead some people astray into a doctrine which wanted to open a free market for children (parents selling them in an open market!). I disagree with him on that economic perception despite being somewhat of a Libertarian at one time. But I don't have to agree with other men on 100% of things - that is actually unrealistic.

His viewpoints are somewhat supremacist, but I don't think that he is as bad as he claims. It's similar to my father who always claimed that he did not like dogs, but has accepted the one his wife brought against his will almost instantly - he even sleeps with it. With some people their racism does not reach beyond their words. I have long ago started perceiving more people in a more holistic way - sometimes disregarding their words if it did not match their deeds and hearts. With other individuals I would sense real danger and psychopathy despite being all polite and courteous - so I would not listen to their bullshit words, those are the more dangerous and sometimes truly racist ones.

Frankly it's difficult to tell what his opinions truly are. I have Polish heritage - I guess he probably would have insulted the Polish too (who have flooded the UK - also I might add some of those insults might be justified), if he had more time and place for his rant. And I would not mind, because I mostly consider myself an Earth citizen, human - and even that is not something I am invested in - would leave this place in a space ship and never return if I could.

So I would not be surprised if upon meeting Krauser a highly intelligent black guy with Game gets all the respect from him.

We are all on a long spiritual voyage here and this is one additional lesson for many.

[Billy Chubbs]

I just don't get the masterrace based stuff that's leaking into here. RVF isn't that kind of place, and there are no lack of other places on the net to go schlep your views on it no matter what those views may be. It's one thing to comment on specific cases perpetrated by hypocritical types, it's another to go off on a full 88 spiel. Plus let's be real; there is no such thing as a master race, just master members of every race. You people really gonna try and tell me that these guys:



are superior to these guys:



just because of their skin tone? See how silly it is? And that's coming from me, a guy who wrote this article.

Although I do whole heartedly agree with Krauser about most people not really being suited for game. Too many guys are missing the important first step of focusing on themselves before they go out there trying to love women. Picking up women is a by-product of becoming a better you; too many guys want to skip that latter part and go right to the orgies, then wonder why they're bitter and disillusioned.

[The_CEO]

Seems like a transparent, calculated, and desperate way for him to pump up sales for his book or whatever product he offers.

Also, I remember the first time I read on here, "Krauser says..." and I asked, "Who is Krauser??"

[El Chinito loco]

(02-21-2015 07:50 PM)Old Fritz Wrote:  

There was a lot he had to say in his rant I liked his post because there were a few key things that I agreed with. However, this does not mean I liked every single thing he wrote. An example being the quasi storm front elements; especially since I am black.

What's important to note is that this likely applies to others that liked his post. There may be some things he said that they agree with but not the entire post.

Just wanted to make a note on that.

Same here, he had some good points but it was obvious he fired
00 buckshot at nearly everyone including modern Brits. I don't think people should be too sensitive about this stuff. I could have been offended by one or more things he said about NE Asians as well. It's all just one man's opinion at the end of the day and let's be honest here there's a lot of truth to his observations.

Although, slamming RvF members seemed very pedantic. There's more good info here from forum members than any dedicated mainstream travel or country specific forum that i've found.

[Travesty]

I'm with Moma.

I liked the post for it's honesty and frankness. It was interesting.

I also think the 4 out of 5 RVF hit was an exagerration for affect like the entire post was. Like said before Krauser is not a fool, the Travel Section alone makes this notion laughable with all the rich data and meet ups that happen.

If it wasn't an exagerration and he sees us as just dreg pawns to buy his stuff then he is a fraud he doesn't care about helping guys.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-21-2015 08:01 PM)Billy Chubbs Wrote:  

I just don't get the masterrace based stuff that's leaking into here. RVF isn't that kind of place, and there are no lack of other places on the net to go schlep your views on it no matter what those views may be. It's one thing to comment on specific cases perpetrated by hypocritical types, it's another to go off on a full 88 spiel. Plus let's be real; there is no such thing as a master race, just master members of every race. You people really gonna try and tell me that these guys:

There are no master races of course and anyone who has two brain-cells left should be able to see that. Within every race or country you have stupendous freaks of nature, when unleashed in the right surrounding they achieve magnificent things, when raised in shitty circumstances, shitty mental frameworks, shitty work-ethic, then it does not matter whether you are genetic freak with genius level IQ - you will amount to nothing.

Also there is the added impact of free will and some people squandering their grand talents, while others using their meager ones to achieve fantastic goals.

I hope we see Krauser responding here as well when his temporary ban gets lifted.

In moments like these I understand why the elite works on indoctrinating all men into pliable docile Betas. The independent Alpha/Sigma frame of mind is a piece of crap control-wise.

[enderilluminatus]

(02-21-2015 08:01 PM)Billy Chubbs Wrote:  

You people really gonna try and tell me that these guys:



are superior to these guys:



just because of their skin tone?

niggas always playing Skullclamp tho

[The Lizard of Oz]

I agree with everything Roosh and Tuth said, but I would not dignify Krauser's dull screed with the hallowed title of a meltdown.

A true meltdown is pure and comes from the heart; bigbootyluvr and other mythical heroes have set the standard and brought great joy to forum members in their self-immolation. A sour brew of ideologically determined stupidity and petty score settling brings no joy and holds very little interest; it is something one sees, yawns at, and turns away.

[eclipse]

(02-21-2015 08:01 PM)Billy Chubbs Wrote:  

Plus let's be real; there is no such thing as a master race, just master members of every race. You people really gonna try and tell me that these guys are superior to these guys just because of their skin tone? See how silly it is?

Thats intellectually dishonest.

Non blank slatists but not HBDers, or HBDers but not white nationalists, or white nationalists but not white supermacists, probably even white supremacists as well, dont actually judge people by their skin color. They judge people by their race, of which skin color happens to be the most easily identifiable component.

Im not even a true HBDer but to me it seems there are obvious differences in races much bigger than skin color(athletic ability in different sports, for instance)

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(02-21-2015 08:51 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

(athletic ability in different sports, for instance)

I used to believe that when I was a kid. Then I ran track in high school. The school was 80% white, but because because of the racial dynamic of our town only had 1 or 2 white kids ran. Does that mean the white kids weren't fast, no it meant they would rather go home and play video games than run track. And of course when we went to other schools the white kids were just as fast.
That argument is like saying blacks in American are inferior at soccer, cause there isn't any major stars. When all it really means is no one plays soccer here.

[eclipse]

(02-21-2015 09:18 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 08:51 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

(athletic ability in different sports, for instance)

I used to believe that when I was a kid. Then I ran track in high school. The school was 80% white, but because because of the racial dynamic of our town only had 1 or 2 white kids ran. Does that mean the white kids weren't fast, no it meant they would rather go home and play video games than run track. And of course when we went to other schools the white kids were just as fast.
That argument is like saying blacks in American are inferior at soccer, cause there isn't any major stars. When all it really means is no one plays soccer here.

The explanation is that higher center of gravity(which blacks have) increases your sprinting speed, as you can keep falling forward at speed. Lower center of gravity apparently helps your swimming speed. It doesnt as much sense imo that barely any whites are top sprinters simply because they dont do it. There are enough people who do do it that it shouldnt matter.

[Bones707]

(02-21-2015 09:25 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 09:18 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 08:51 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

(athletic ability in different sports, for instance)

I used to believe that when I was a kid. Then I ran track in high school. The school was 80% white, but because because of the racial dynamic of our town only had 1 or 2 white kids ran. Does that mean the white kids weren't fast, no it meant they would rather go home and play video games than run track. And of course when we went to other schools the white kids were just as fast.
That argument is like saying blacks in American are inferior at soccer, cause there isn't any major stars. When all it really means is no one plays soccer here.

The explanation is that higher center of gravity(which blacks have) increases your sprinting speed, as you can keep falling forward at speed. Lower center of gravity apparently helps your swimming speed. It doesnt as much sense imo that barely any whites are top sprinters simply because they dont do it. There are enough people who do do it that it shouldnt matter.

You have got to be kidding me with that post. You claim you aren't an HBDer yet you write the same crap as they do. I have been on forums where HBDers reside and they attempt to write off any "advantage" that blacks might have to "Caucasians" (and you did the same bullshit that they do). In the end, it's unwarranted scapegoating for your own problems.

[enderilluminatus]

(02-21-2015 09:25 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 09:18 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 08:51 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

(athletic ability in different sports, for instance)

I used to believe that when I was a kid. Then I ran track in high school. The school was 80% white, but because because of the racial dynamic of our town only had 1 or 2 white kids ran. Does that mean the white kids weren't fast, no it meant they would rather go home and play video games than run track. And of course when we went to other schools the white kids were just as fast.
That argument is like saying blacks in American are inferior at soccer, cause there isn't any major stars. When all it really means is no one plays soccer here.

The explanation is that higher center of gravity(which blacks have) increases your sprinting speed, as you can keep falling forward at speed. Lower center of gravity apparently helps your swimming speed. It doesnt as much sense imo that barely any whites are top sprinters simply because they dont do it. There are enough people who do do it that it shouldnt matter.

Dude

Lmfao dude

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(02-21-2015 09:25 PM)eclipse Wrote:  

The explanation is that higher center of gravity(which blacks have) increases your sprinting speed, as you can keep falling forward at speed. Lower center of gravity apparently helps your swimming speed. It doesnt as much sense imo that barely any whites are top sprinters simply because they dont do it. There are enough people who do do it that it shouldnt matter.

[HD668B]

(02-21-2015 05:47 PM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

I can't believe so many people liked the rant linked in Roosh's first sentence above.

The thread is called "unpopular opinions" Einstein.

[The Beast1]

Page two and I already see a race thread starting to brew...

[enderilluminatus]