[Geomann180]

(02-21-2015 03:31 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

I'm pro-gun and agree but then you quote Freud. Freud wrote a bunch of junk science IMO.

I'm always mixed on Freud. Sometimes he says outrageously things, but then he writes seemingly prescient things.

Penis-envy seems to describe feminists pretty well. They're so ugly they might as well be men since women are attracted to more than just looks.

The quote about fear of weapons seems strange on its face, but think about it. Does that not describe SJWs pretty well?

G

[WestIndianArchie]

The "SJW'S" don't care about women protecting themselves, they care about neutering men.

Ending so called rape culture is about indoctrinating men to their ideal.

Most men, via education and schooling agree with a lot of what these guys want.

If a woman wants to work someplace, she should get interviewed, she should get hired, she should get paid the same.

But when that woman gets hired, she starts to get the employer to accommodate her, or she does less work, or she starts manipulating and playing the game.

Beta drones don't like that. They don't like seeing the rules change mid game. It's unfair.

Realistically, this is a cultural war against men. When successful, the majority of the male gender will walk lockstep to their agenda. The minority left will be the men who cannot be socialized, essentially the anti-social, or in more familiar terms the sociopaths.

Make no mistake, there's only light mocking towards 50 Shades of Grey. a story about an Upper echelon sociopath seduces and degrades a young and impressionable woman employee!

But anything that suggests men pursue even mild versions of the essentially anti-social behaviour celebrated in women's fantasies, the cultural warriors come out.

Looking back on the early days of the modern pickup era, before everyone attempted to go viral, the average man will see the risible hatred about the idea of a man learning how to talk to women.

They have to keep this type of information down. They have to make regular men feel bad about trying to improve their lives.

Eat right, work out, make more money - all things that take a long time to see any benefits, all things that line the pockets of the powers that be, and increase the menu of options for women - but if I tell a guy the only thing stopping him from fucking some college soror is his internal fear, body language and a few conversational points - everything about their world starts to crumble.

It's why when men go abroad and deal with women they feel as if they have wasted their lives in the West.

Even if a man were to listen to the mild game denialists among us that assume there's a hidden spark to every successful bang, that you can't create chemistry - just following that half truth would change the lives of many men.

Meanwhile the true alphas of our society can afford to tolerate these things. In fact they can encourage them, and use all sorts of social agendas to screw each other.

"My competitor doesn't hire women" . Lol

Again most of these things are easy bigger than what we typically discuss.

I doubt the SJW'S really see the what they're trying to do. Most men are already following a worker/consumer paradigm (conservatives are often the most pro management anti freedom types you'll encounter. They are as invested in the current command and control model as the left) , this latest move only seeks to clamp them down even further.

WIA

[WestIndianArchie]

Teaching men not to rape supposes that men
1) are going to rape, naturally
2) haven't learned to not harm people

I do not know a guy who thinks that no means yes.

The current state of the dating game, most men are afraid to walk up to stranger girls and do cold approaches. That's where we are right now.

So the guys who are date raping chicks are a small minority of guys who somehow were able to withstand all if the socialization that says don't talk to strangers, don't bother people.

And these are the guys these bitches are attracted to. The guy that is confident, has swagger, that doesn't give a fuck.

I feel my blood pressure rising, I need to chill

WIA

[OBJ Snakebite]

(02-21-2015 03:31 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Freud wrote a bunch of junk science IMO.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Freud was one of the pioneers in his field, and as such was bound to make mistakes. That does not immediately nullify everything else he did.
Churchill, Edison, Roosevelt, others--all made (sometimes monumental) mistakes, but that does not lessen their other brilliant achievements. We know where they were wrong, we correct for that, and build upon their right work. That's all.

I briefly talked to a old timer professor, and I quote: "48% or my life work is wrong, 50% is irrelevant, but for the remainder 2% I am a board member of [bunchofwordsIcanthopetopronounce] Academy of Sciences."

[TheWastelander]

Quote:

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/28/if_only_...mpus_rape/

GOP’s bizarre, lethal solution to the campus rape crisis
Republican lawmakers are trying to loosen gun regulations in schools across the country. It's a recipe for disaster

ANDREA FLYNN, NEXT NEW DEAL

Two years ago, Republican leaders released a post-mortem analysis of the 2012 election in an effort to better understand how they lost the single woman’s vote by 36 percent. The 100-page report recommended that GOP lawmakers do a better job listening to female voters, remind them of the party’s “historical role in advancing the women’s rights movement,” and fight against the “so-called War on Women.” Look no further than recent GOP-led efforts to expand gun rights on college campuses under the guise of preventing campus sexual assault as evidence that conservative lawmakers have failed to take their own advice.

Today, lawmakers in at least 14 states are pushing forward measures that would loosen gun regulations on college campuses. In the last few days a number of them have seized upon the growing public outcry over campus sexual assault to argue that carrying a gun would prevent women from being raped. (So far they’ve been silent on how we might prevent young men – who, of course, would also be allowed to carry a gun – from attempting to rape women in the first place.)

Republican Assemblywoman Michele Fiore of Nevada recently told The New York Times: “If these young, hot little girls on campus have a firearm, I wonder how many men will want to assault them. The sexual assaults that are occurring would go down once these sexual predators get a bullet in their head.” (Really? Hot little girls?) And as the Times highlighted, Florida Representative Dennis Baxley jumped on the “stop campus rape” bandwagon recently when he successfully lobbied for a bill that would allow students to carry loaded, concealed weapons. “If you’ve got a person that’s raped because you wouldn’t let them carry a firearm to defend themselves, I think you’re responsible,” he said.

Let’s be clear. People aren’t raped because they aren’t carrying firearms. They are raped because someone rapes them. What a sinister new twist on victim blaming. As if anything positive could come from adding loaded weapons to the already toxic mix of drugs, alcohol, masculine group think, and the rape culture endemic in college sports and Greek life on campuses around the country.

Feminist typists love to take things out of context and/or deliberately misconstrue them. In what world does Dennis Baxley telling fellow representatives and college administrators that someone being raped, because they prohibited them from carrying a firearm, constitute victim-blaming? This reminds me of that Twitter cunt Roosh highlighted who said "would you bang?" is a threat.

A commenter over at the Truth About Guns, johnb, also made a good point that should be thrown in their faces: "If Greek life & sports are part of rape culture then why did you contribute to the problem by going to a school that has them Andrea Flynn?"

Quote:

These lawmakers have appropriated the battle cry of students who are demanding more accountability from academic institutions to prevent and respond to campus sexual assault. It’s a vain attempt to advance their own conservative agenda of liberalizing gun laws. This is an NRA agenda, not a women’s rights agenda. According to Everytown for Gun Safety, each of the lawmakers who have supported such legislation has received an “A” rating from the National Rifle Association (NRA). They have enjoyed endorsements from the NRA during election years and some – including Fiore and Baxley – received campaign contributions from the organization.

These lawmakers are pointing to the demands of a handful of women who have survived sexual assault and are advocating for liberalized campus gun laws. The experiences of these students are real and deserve to be heard and considered as we debate how to make campuses safer. We must also recognize that these students are outliers. Surveys have shown that nearly 80 percent of college students say they would not feel safe if guns were allowed on campus, and according to the Times, 86 percent of women said they were opposed to having weapons on campus. And for good reason.

I'm willing to bet a few of those women were actually raped. Instead of whining about how we should "teach men not to rape" and carrying a mattress around, they're bravely getting out there in the face of a media who will try to destroy them for being pro-gun and saying they might've been able to prevent what happened to them had they been armed. This requires a level of personal sacrifice, going against the mainstream, and risk of ostracization that would keep fakers hiding in their hugboxes.

Quote:

Research shows that guns do not make women safer. In fact, just the opposite is true. Over the past 25 years, guns have accounted for more intimate partner homicides than all other weapons combined. In states that that require a background check for every handgun sale, 38 percent fewer women are shot to death by intimate partners. The presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation increases the risk of homicide for women by 500 percent. And women in the United States are 11 times more likely than women from other high-income countries to be murdered with a gun. Guns on college campuses would only make these statistics worse.

If the GOP wants to show they care about women – or at the very least care about their votes – this is just one of the realities they need to acknowledge. And they need to listen to the experiences of all women who have experienced sexual assault – like those who have created the powerful Know Your IX campaign – not just those who will help advance their NRA-sponsored agenda.

Listen and believe! The fact they want to combat regret sex with lawsuits and bureaucratic tyranny is proof positive that it's all a bunch of anti-male bullshit and politics, not an actual threat. If 1-in-5 women were actually being raped at school the government would turn every college campus into a heavily-monitored armed camp to try to stop it.

What a joke these people are.