[AsEaglesFly]

I usually wonder about this - get laid on first meeting vs dating before sex. I am guessing the vast majority of getting laid happens by first getting a girl's number and then going out with her at a later time (once or more if required).

So I'm interested to hear in your personal lives what's the approx % of -
1/ meet girl, get laid right away without losing contact (probably from a nightclub)
vs
2/ meet girl, get number, lose contact, meet again, get laid

[WestIndianArchie]

If you meet a chick @ a club and then take her out for some late night eats before you bang - is that a date?

WIA

[OregonToSoCal]

(02-11-2015 11:06 PM)AsEaglesFly Wrote:  

I usually wonder about this - get laid on first meeting vs dating before sex. I am guessing the vast majority of getting laid happens by first getting a girl's number and then going out with her at a later time (once or more if required).

So I'm interested to hear in your personal lives what's the approx % of -
1/ meet girl, get laid right away without losing contact (probably from a nightclub)
vs
2/ meet girl, get number, lose contact, meet again, get laid

Welcome to the forum! Use the search function, it's your friend! Here are two threads that will more than answer your question:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-15569.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-8681.html

[eradicator]

(02-11-2015 11:12 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

If you meet a chick @ a club and then take her out for some late night eats before you bang - is that a date?

WIA

absolutely! venue changes are great. Heck, if you walk into a new room with her, it changes the venue.

[WestIndianArchie]

(02-12-2015 12:12 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 11:12 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

If you meet a chick @ a club and then take her out for some late night eats before you bang - is that a date?

WIA

absolutely! venue changes are great. Heck, if you walk into a new room with her, it changes the venue.

For the purpose of the question though.

If I meet a chick at a club, and bang her later that night - that's a ONS
But if we have a "mini-date" @ the IHOP or Wafflehouse - is that one date prior to bang?

WIA

[Phoenix]

(02-11-2015 11:06 PM)AsEaglesFly Wrote:  

I usually wonder about this - get laid on first meeting vs dating before sex. I am guessing the vast majority of getting laid happens by first getting a girl's number and then going out with her at a later time (once or more if required).

So I'm interested to hear in your personal lives what's the approx % of -
1/ meet girl, get laid right away without losing contact (probably from a nightclub)
vs
2/ meet girl, get number, lose contact, meet again, get laid

It shouldn't be up to you, it should be up to her. You should be taking it as far as it will go.

Not sure which category online would be, since you contact first rather than meet first.
For clubs/parties etc, its:
1 - ~90%
2 - ~10%

[AsEaglesFly]

Thanks OreganToSoCal for the two threads. I'm surely going to study these and the other threads here to help develop my game. But before all that, since I'm just getting started I guess I'm mostly looking to get a true perspective in numbers of what you guys do.

To clarify, taking a girl on an instant date to a different venue still counts in (1) cause you're not losing contact with the girl.

(2) is where you go separate ways after first meeting and meet again later in the evening or on a different day.

[Rawmeo]

Assuming that "Dating before sex" implies losing contact (venue changes or going somewhere and getting laid same day doesn't count)...

For bargirls, all happens same day. If you lose contact, she will get another alpha cock. For more decent girls, it has been 50/50 for me. Some girls refuse to put out the same night, but will say yes the second night (which is ridiculous by the way, because she is volunteerly holding herself from something good just by principle).

My opinion here would be, Always Go For The Bang. Only lose contact and see her another day if you are unable to plow through LMR or if logistics don't allow a SNL. But still, always try to get the bang. Let her decline you instead of disqualifying yourself.

[MdWanderer]

(02-12-2015 12:40 PM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

Assuming that "Dating before sex" implies losing contact (venue changes or going somewhere and getting laid same day doesn't count)...

For bargirls, all happens same day. If you lose contact, she will get another alpha cock. For more decent girls, it has been 50/50 for me. Some girls refuse to put out the same night, but will say yes the second night (which is ridiculous by the way, because she is volunteerly holding herself from something good just by principle).

My opinion here would be, Always Go For The Bang. Only lose contact and see her another day if you are unable to plow through LMR or if logistics don't allow a SNL. But still, always try to get the bang. Let her decline you instead of disqualifying yourself.

I as well as other members of the forum have lost girls like this. Is the reason because not enough comfort was established before the bang, even if it's the first night? I'm not trying to disagree with you; I'm trying to figure out a way that if you bang them on the first night if you can see them again and keep banging them.

I've asked this question before and was told because the girl might have another guy in mind. How to put yourself in her mind first and foremost is the challenge.

[Rawmeo]

Always build comfort for sure. Always go for the bang, if logistics allow it, but normally, you should take care of logistics before the date.

If you are both in a club, and you can't go to your place nor her place, don't push to get a hotel room, it likely won't work (unless you're very lucky). Build more comfort, and try another day.

If you get a girl to your place, go for the bang, but still build comfort. If she's not into it, throw some more booze, comfort, talking, etc. and make sure she's at east.

If you want to see her again after banging her the first night, make sure she gets the orgasm, and after the bang, chill down a bit and make her comfortable. Just make sure she has a positive image of you.

[Cyr]

(02-12-2015 12:40 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-12-2015 12:12 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 11:12 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

If you meet a chick @ a club and then take her out for some late night eats before you bang - is that a date?

WIA

absolutely! venue changes are great. Heck, if you walk into a new room with her, it changes the venue.

For the purpose of the question though.

If I meet a chick at a club, and bang her later that night - that's a ONS
But if we have a "mini-date" @ the IHOP or Wafflehouse - is that one date prior to bang?

WIA

I don't think it's a date if it occurs on the same night- it's more just preamble/ working towards a bang.

[Cyclone419]

If she don't fuck on the first date, shes probably not going to get another. Haven't been told no yet.