[Apollo21]

Those dating programs are designed for guys who are desperate
and have the money to burn.

Outside of online dating...girls don't really have that many options

If you look at the numbers, only a fraction of women
out of the total population actually do online dating
at any given time.

That means even if 40% of all available, attractive women had
active dating profiles, then 60% are still at home looking for ways to meet
a quality guy in person.

Attraction is still important. You just have to find a way to get to the
available women before your competition.

[Guitarman]

I bought the Double your Dating shook six years ago and that was my first introduction to Game. Cocky and Funny I think is a much better conversational tool than "negs" from the Style/ Mystery type of game.

I've been getting his emails regularly and I've never been tempted to buy any more product than the book and certainly would not go to one of his expensive courses. The book is good though, just reading DYD and applying the ideas helped me a lot.

[bpryce]

For a dating guru, his girlfriends were below average.

It has to be said.

[Guitarman]

That's the case with a lot of so called gurus bpryce! I'm sure he's not as good as his sales pitch makes out.

However, there is some good advice and examples to he had that cure common "blue pill beta" dating problems. This from a recent DD email;

"THE BIG MISTAKE THAT ALMOST EVERY GUY MAKES...

No doubt about it: there's a KEY difference between the way men and women act when they first meet a "potential mate"...

Women usually act in a way that can be characterized like this:

"You're interesting to me. I'd like to get to know you better, and we can see where this goes."

Men usually act in a way that can be characterized like this:

"I am so interested in you that I'm nervous. In fact, I'm already thinking of you as a potential girlfriend or wife... or at least a one-night stand."

In other words, women are usually casual and laid-back when they're first meeting a guy...

But GUYS tend to act like every girl is a POTENTIAL WIFE.

As you can imagine, this creates a lot of tension and pressure.

And I'm not talking about the GOOD kind, either.

I'm talking about the kind that makes men shiver and shake with nervousness, and women feel uncomfortable because the MAN is acting
uncomfortable.

I KNOW that you can relate to this in some way.

And if so... chances are good that *you* are a man who starts acting all freakish and nervous when you're talking to a woman... and therefore
you SCREW THINGS UP before you even have a chance to get started.

But that's OKAY.

I was right there with you, not very long ago.

And listen... treating a woman I'd just met as if she could be the love of my life was something that I would always do...

... until I learned a very different approach that actually WORKED.

I began to ASSUME, and therefore ACT like, every woman had SOMETHING that was going to annoy me, bother me, or SCREW UP HER CHANCES with me.

The MAIN reason that I did this?

SURPRISE...

It's because IT was actually TRUE!

The fact is that MOST women are NOT compatible "long term" with most men.

In other words, if you do get into a long-term relationship with a particular woman, the chances are that she's going to have things about her that
you don't like.

This is why one of my favorite Cocky & Funny themes to follow is, "You're screwing up your chances with me."

Here's how it works:

Let's say I'm walking down the street with a girl to have a cup of tea. We'll assume that she and I just met the night before, I got her number, and now we're walking from my place to tea.

On the way in the door to the coffee shop, let's say she trips over the doorway.

I might look at her, shake my head in an "overly dramatic fake annoyed" way, and say, "This relationship just isn't going to work."

Then, let's say fifteen minutes later, she spills her tea on the table and herself.

I'll shake my head again and say, "What did I tell you about this kind of behavior?"

In other words, I'm communicating the very OPPOSITE of "You're a potential wife."

Instead, I'm saying, "I'm so comfortable around you that I can even make fun of you without caring what you think of me."

Does this sound a little crazy?

Good. It should.

But trust me.

If you spend a couple of hours having regular, normal conversation... being Cocky & Funny, enjoying yourself, NOT trying to impress her, and
generally demonstrating that you could care less how things turn out...

... you'll be FAR more likely to take things further than if you act as if she might be the love of your life and you wind up acting so nervous, stilted, and DUMB that she runs away. "

I made this shift in attitude years ago and it helped me out.

[rpg]

Im seeing the opposite these days. Girls are looking to size up a potential husband in less than 5 minutes. Really. What the hell! They want to know anything that will eliminate a guy from their list in 5 minutes or less. They are quickly forgetting how shitty marriage is and are just looking for committment and resources.

[iknowexactly]

(02-09-2015 11:32 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

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I don't mind if a girl isn't in to me, i'm perfectly okay with that...... It's the women that actually are into you or show some sort of interest are the ones that frustrate me. I've been on dates and even had sex with girls where things go perfectly only to be dumped for no apparent reason.

Not trying to be critical of you, but I think you might be confusing the very skilled politeness many women have with being "into you."

I mean, by definition, if she was "into you" she wouldn't have dumped you. My definition of "into you" anyway, means she'll cooperate with plans for you to be together.

Maybe she was attracted to you, but saw you as a player who would hurt her, IDK, some other disqualifying thing.

[ElJefe]

(02-28-2015 09:52 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

[quote='MdWanderer' pid='952804' dateline='1423499561']....
Maybe she was attracted to you, but saw you as a player who would hurt her, IDK, some other disqualifying thing.

This one is hard to square.

If a girl is INTO you, she'll ask questions to figure out if you're a player or not.

In such an instance, you can assuage her feelings by rejecting the idea or you can agree and amplify. The latter is almost ALWAYS the better option, but either should be more or less OK if she is in fact into you.

The other stuff about confusing politeness with attraction is a common problem, and I myself just fell right into it with a lot of heartbreak to go along with it.

The way to avoid that situation is to be a cocky motherfucker.